List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[McIvor]

If he really is on $500k then no other club will touch that contract.

Thats less than AFL average so I don’t think that’d be the case.

 

[blueiris]

In all seriousness, do you think GWS has lost much during this period? Or should be much the same next year?

I'd be putting money on the Giants for next season GF I don't think they lost anyone and added a 40 goal a year fwd

 

[braddsey]

No you're right we should draft a guy like Day that can hardly kick 10 goals in a season

I wouldn't be too worried about Day - I would imagine he'll be in the team to play a similar role to Joyce. If we run out of players, he gets a run.

 

[dlanod]

In all seriousness, do you think GWS has lost much during this period? Or should be much the same next year?

More likely to improve from natural development than anything - they're still a young team, and none of the losses are too bad. Perryman is pretty vanilla, Cumming barely plays most years, and Peatling is replaceable but probably the bigger loss given his impact in the middle late this year.

 

[Darren Downunder]

If he really is on $500k then no other club will touch that contract.

I would love him to have a fantastic year next year, force his way into the team and become a premiership player. When all the clubs that rejected him come knocking, he’s, “Get stuffed! I’m staying with the lions!”

I can dream, can’t I? Let me have this!

 

[Elixuh]

I'd be putting money on the Giants for next season GF I don't think they lost anyone and added a 40 goal a year fwd

You seem very enamored to the old package

 

[Nathan Barley]

Time to get to work - if he doesn’t crack the seniors with us next season he’ll still get another opportunity with a different club. Maybe he doesn’t get to Perth, but there’ll be another club willing to throw him a lifeline as a DFA.

Get his kicking to a decent standard and he'd walk into a lot of teams.

 

[BangyBangy]

I'd be putting money on the Giants for next season GF I don't think they lost anyone and added a 40 goal a year fwd

Seems crazy Essendon let him go for pick 53 ....... Think about that.

 

[lionshine]

More likely to improve from natural development than anything - they're still a young team, and none of the losses are too bad. Perryman is pretty vanilla, Cumming barely plays most years, and Peatling is replaceable but probably the bigger loss given his impact in the middle late this year.

Any chance Leake steps up from next year? Didn’t follow his progress much this season.

Also what’re your thoughts on Fonti? Looked a natural to me when he played seniors this year. Likely candidate to step into the Perryman role?

Assume Gothard might be stuck behind the likes of Daniels & Jones for now?

They’re in a good spot in the draft to add some quality players. I think GWS will be fine pending the fallout from this Mad Monday thing but that will likely be largely forgotten about come the new year so shouldn’t be overly destabilising.

I’d still rate GWS a contender next season personally.

 

[blueiris]

You seem very enamored to the old package

No i just want a player capable of a 40 goal season not sure we have the players to step in for Daniher

 

[jasonrampage2010]

No i just want a player capable of a 40 goal season not sure we have the players to step in for Daniher

So you’d take stringer and let him poison our culture in return for 40 goals?
You must be the only one on here that would be open to that.

 

[iBeng]

No you're right we should draft a guy like Day that can hardly kick 10 goals in a season

Is it drafting if we just take him as a delisted free agent?

 

[blueiris]

Jaxson Prior more than likely leaves for nothing and gets to Richmond or West Coast

 

[dlanod]

Any chance Leake steps up from next year? Didn’t follow his progress much this season.

Definitely hope so. He's got the pedigree.

Also what’re your thoughts on Fonti? Looked a natural to me when he played seniors this year. Likely candidate to step into the Perryman role?

Too loose to replace Perryman to start with. Fonti is a great rebound option but needs more accountability.

Assume Gothard might be stuck behind the likes of Daniels & Jones for now?

I think Kingsley will try to get him in sooner than later. He's as big a fan of MOAR SPEED as Clarkson.

They’re in a good spot in the draft to add some quality players. I think GWS will be fine pending the fallout from this Mad Monday thing but that will likely be largely forgotten about come the new year so shouldn’t be overly destabilising.

I’d still rate GWS a contender next season personally.

I broadly agree

 

[BangyBangy]

Jaxson Prior more than likely leaves for nothing and gets to Richmond or West Coast

Jaxon

 

[Perrip]

Jaxson Prior more than likely leaves for nothing and gets to Richmond or West Coast

Richmond and Eagles are interested? I've only heard Essendon

 

[blueiris]

Richmond and Eagles are interested? I've only heard Essendon

You're probably right he goes as a DDP to Essendon

 

[Dalions]

So who are we likely to delist to create a few more list spots for the draft picks and points.
Looks like the club has some work to do.

 

[blueiris]

So who are we likely to delist to create a few mire list spots for the draft picks and points.
Looks like the club has some work to do.

We have 5 senior list spots more than likely Prior goes that's 6

 

[McIvor]

More likely to improve from natural development than anything - they're still a young team, and none of the losses are too bad. Perryman is pretty vanilla, Cumming barely plays most years, and Peatling is replaceable but probably the bigger loss given his impact in the middle late this year.

I genuinely had no idea who Peatling was until that second quarter late in the year against us at the Gabba when he got a bunch of centre clearances.

 

[dlanod]

We have 5 senior list spots more than likely Prior goes that's 6

We have eight rookies for six spots (two uncontracted) so we'll either need to delist or upgrade, and the latter cuts into our active picks too. So right now we effectively only have three active picks (assuming Prior moves on).

 

[Tom14]

More likely to improve from natural development than anything - they're still a young team, and none of the losses are too bad. Perryman is pretty vanilla, Cumming barely plays most years, and Peatling is replaceable but probably the bigger loss given his impact in the middle late this year.

Midfield depth would be the concern. Big year to see if Callaghan can play more genuine mid or if he’s purely outside.

 

[blueiris]

We have eight rookies for six spots (two uncontracted) so we'll either need to delist or upgrade, and the latter cuts into our active picks too. So right now we effectively only have three active picks (assuming Prior moves on).

more than likely we delist rookies I'm talking about senior list spots

 

[briztoon]

So is it a case now that we see how we can do some draft pick swaps to increase our overall points or is that left to draft night?

I’m still confused by the Saints draft pick swap but perhaps our recruiters are brewing something.

It’s really not hard to understand.

We probably can only take 5 picks to the draft.

If we did not make the trade, we would have left pick 49 behind and lost it’s 287 points.

So we package 2 picks up for 1 higher pick, which we hope to then trade on draft night for more points.

32 (584) + 45 (347) = 931 points
27 (703) + 49 (287) = 990 points

So we have a net gain of 59 points, plus anything extra we get from a live draft night trade.

If the Bulldogs trade picks 35 (522) + 48 (302) = 824 points, for pick 27 (703), that’ll give us a 121 points upgrade, and we’re 160 points better off had we not made the St Kilda trade.

 

[McIvor]

We may have to delist Craven and Beecken and then move one or two onto the rookie list like we did with Lester a couple of years ago. I think that’s our only genuine option outside of delisting Prior because everyone else is contracted.