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[davemc_lions]

From GF team
McKenna, Joe and Fort out
L Ashcroft, Oscar and Day probably in. Fletcher plays back more to cover McKenna.
Be interesting when Linc, Doedee and Kiddy get ready who drops out for them
You assume Linc comes in to free up Charlie to roam more as we lost Joe.. We need Dangerous Charlie back.. With Levi rumoured play forward Bailey need to be not so up and down to keep his spot.
I think AhChee a lock now. Rayner always was a lock.. Kai, Morris, Charlie and Hippy not going anywhere.
Doedee really depends on probably Paynes form/fitness.. Lester played so well.. Although who else could it be
If Kiddy comes back probably be Answerth again.
I do wonder with Kiddy and Zorko both of HB how it would work.

Yes great place to be with so many options.
Cannot see how Dizzy fits in starting line up now unless injury.

There is always someone who comes on more than people think over off season as well.

 

[lionshine]

From GF team
McKenna, Joe and Fort out
L Ashcroft, Oscar and Day probably in. Fletcher plays back more to cover McKenna.
Be interesting when Linc, Doedee and Kiddy get ready who drops out for them
You assume Linc comes in to free up Charlie to roam more as we lost Joe.. We need Dangerous Charlie back.. With Levi rumoured play forward Bailey need to be not so up and down to keep his spot.
I think AhChee a lock now. Rayner always was a lock.. Kai, Morris, Charlie and Hippy not going anywhere.
Doedee really depends on probably Paynes form/fitness.. Lester played so well.. Although who else could it be
If Kiddy comes back probably be Answerth again.
I do wonder with Kiddy and Zorko both of HB how it would work.

Yes great place to be with so many options.
Cannot see how Dizzy fits in starting line up now unless injury.

There is always someone who comes on more than people think over off season as well.

Yeah agree with your last sentence. Reville & Brain could improve further with another pre season. Beecken & McLachlan after an AFL pre-season as well. Competition for spots is going to be red hot I think.

 

[briztoon]

Will Ashcroft stepping up big time in the middle has changed our options too. Suddenly there is no reliance on McCluggage to take over from Neale whenever he slows down. I feel between the 2 Ashcrofts and Dunkley we have elite mix in the coming years.

If McCluggage CBA drops a bit, I can see him taking his wing spot back again and push Fletcher out to sub replacing Mckenna. Fletcher might be the one on the fringe, he had good finals series but the season was a bit up n down.

Marshall and Annable would make things even more interesting in the coming years as they both fit the hard running wingman player profile of Fletcher.

Annable is much more an inside player. I don’t believe he’d be suited for a wing role at AFL a level.

Fletcher is a better kick than Marshall and Annable.

Marshall looks more like a successor to Berry.

 

[MSB ROYS]

I assume that was at the Roar Deal last night? Very interesting insight

Yes, Fages heaped praise in Eric as a key team player.

 

[Tom14]

Will Ashcroft stepping up big time in the middle has changed our options too. Suddenly there is no reliance on McCluggage to take over from Neale whenever he slows down. I feel between the 2 Ashcrofts and Dunkley we have elite mix in the coming years.

If McCluggage CBA drops a bit, I can see him taking his wing spot back again and push Fletcher out to sub replacing Mckenna. Fletcher might be the one on the fringe, he had good finals series but the season was a bit up n down.

Marshall and Annable would make things even more interesting in the coming years as they both fit the hard running wingman player profile of Fletcher.

Am I the only person on this forum that likes Clug in the middle?

Yeah he was an AA squad member on the wing, but he's way more impactful at centre bounce. Directly won us games and was on course for the norm after the first quarter of the grand final before they swung a tag on him.

Good player on the wing, but the wing role is limited in our system. Better to have such a good ball user in the middle!

 

[Nunez]

Am I the only person on this forum that likes Clug in the middle?

Yeah he was an AA squad member on the wing, but he's way more impactful at centre bounce. Directly won us games and was on course for the norm after the first quarter of the grand final before they swung a tag on him.

Good player on the wing, but the wing role is limited in our system. Better to have such a good ball user in the middle!

He is 1000% a mid for mine, too.

In order of CBA, I see next years midfield running:

1. Neale
2. Dunkley
3. McCluggage
4. Ashcroft
5. Rayner
6. L. Ashcroft

Think Will will increase his CBA by way of Neale and Hugh giving him a few of their usual CBAs. Still think Clugg will attend more.

We've also found our ideal wing rotations too in Berry, Fletcher and Bailey. Moving Hugh to the wing full time would displace guys we don't really want to displace.

 

[Elixuh]

Am I the only person on this forum that likes Clug in the middle?

Yeah he was an AA squad member on the wing, but he's way more impactful at centre bounce. Directly won us games and was on course for the norm after the first quarter of the grand final before they swung a tag on him.

Good player on the wing, but the wing role is limited in our system. Better to have such a good ball user in the middle!

I stand with Tom14.

 

[dlanod]

I stand with Tom14.

i 2 stand with tom

 

[irel]

I'm glad that I stand.

 

[martinson]

I'm glad that I stand.

Yeah I'm comotose but Blind Freddie could see that McCluggage would be a first 4 midfielder in any team.

In fact he'd be the best midfielder in some teams

 

[davemc_lions]

Yeah I'm comotose but Blind Freddie could see that McCluggage would be a first 4 midfielder in any team.

In fact he'd be the best midfielder in some teams

Problem with Clugga in the middle we always start with Neale and Dunkley and both play high 80% of game time..
Then Ashcroft and McCluggae shares the third spot.
We will have Levi wanting some time as well next year as well as Rayner and Bailey.
Before Ashcroft came back Berry played more middle as well.

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[Nunez]

Problem with Clugga in the middle we always start with Neale and Dunkley and both play high 80% of game time..
Then Ashcroft and McCluggae shares the third spot.
We will have Levi wanting some time as well next year as well as Rayner and Bailey.
Before Ashcroft came back Berry played more middle as well.

CBAs - DFS Australia

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Suspect we'll see less of Neale in CBA next year. Not a remarkable drop off, but think we'll be in a position where we can start him off half back after a goal and have McCluggage, Dunkley and Ashcroft on the ball. Likewise Hugh can start HFF and we can run Neale/Ashcroft/Dunkley.

We have so much flexibility now.

 

[Dalions]

Suspect we'll see less of Neale in CBA next year. Not a remarkable drop off, but think we'll be in a position where we can start him off half back after a goal and have McCluggage, Dunkley and Ashcroft on the ball. Likewise Hugh can start HFF and we can run Neale/Ashcroft/Dunkley.

We have so much flexibility now.

Would like to see Neale with a bit more bench time tbh.
And possibly a game or 2 off altogether.
Should be all about having him rip raring ready for finals next year imo.
But I know he will want as much game time as he can.

 

[davemc_lions]

Suspect we'll see less of Neale in CBA next year. Not a remarkable drop off, but think we'll be in a position where we can start him off half back after a goal and have McCluggage, Dunkley and Ashcroft on the ball. Likewise Hugh can start HFF and we can run Neale/Ashcroft/Dunkley.

We have so much flexibility now.

might be a idea like pies done with Sidebottom/Pendles although we prob end up with Kiddy and Zorko playing of HB.
Not sure we carry another attacking HB with Motty as well.
Backline as said be interesting
Starc, Wilmott and Andrews are locks. Zorko was AA last year so you think he start there.
Lester should be on form although Doedee back so be Lester/Payne out depends on body
We playing Answerth and McKenna in that last spot. Starting with Answerth as more defensive
When Kiddy comes back someone will need to go. So not sure we have room for Lachie back.

Forward we have Linc back pushing for a role which Kai, AhChee and Bailey have.
And lets not forget Levi
So not sure what room forward we have as well

 

[davemc_lions]

The spot we have for sale now is Joe's
Even though Joe is great sometimes someone out is an opportunity for someone to shine.
We have a year of Day, Smith, Ryan and others to make that spot their own so we do not spend big on Allan, Lewis, Darcy etc etc

Like last year Kai and Morris took their chances when Linc and Gardiner went down.
Sorry Dizzy Morris played that forward role better we just did not think he was ready.

Zorko got AA playing Kiddy role..

it not always doom and gloom.. Sometimes people just need to be given a go in a spot.

 

[Nathan Barley]

The spot we have for sale now is Joe's
Even though Joe is great sometimes someone out is an opportunity for someone to shine.
We have a year of Day, Smith, Ryan and others to make that spot their own so we do not spend big on Allan, Lewis, Darcy etc etc

Like last year Kai and Morris took their chances when Linc and Gardiner went down.
Sorry Dizzy Morris played that forward role better we just did not think he was ready.

Zorko got AA playing Kiddy role..

it not always doom and gloom.. Sometimes people just need to be given a go in a spot.

Wouldn't be the first to have their role change after an AA season

 

[BigCat2]

Suspect we'll see less of Neale in CBA next year. Not a remarkable drop off, but think we'll be in a position where we can start him off half back after a goal and have McCluggage, Dunkley and Ashcroft on the ball. Likewise Hugh can start HFF and we can run Neale/Ashcroft/Dunkley.

We have so much flexibility now.

Great if we can do that, it'll be like Sam Mitchell moving to halfback later in his career. Can then always shift him inside if we need a lift around the contest. Helps prolong his career too.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Lachie could rotate with Levi as a high half forward taking the bulk of the midfield time

 

[davemc_lions]

Wouldn't be the first to have their role change after an AA season

yes although where do we move him. Mids as said above Ashcroft and Hugh sort of sharing the third spot
Forward have Levi who will want a spot and Linc when back from ACL as well
I see eventually him becoming the Sub.

Zorko smarts and kicking was great.. Although I think Kiddy has him on intercepting and defending.

 

[Nathan Barley]

yes although where do we move him. Mids as said above Ashcroft and Hugh sort of sharing the third spot
Forward have Levi who will want a spot and Linc when back from ACL as well
I see eventually him becoming the Sub.

Zorko smarts and kicking was great.. Although I think Kiddy has him on intercepting and defending.

I think kicking is about equal. Only issue is fitness and yeah maybe the smarts of being able to get to the right position more.

High half forward is where he was playing before the move to half back

 

[StevoJenkins]

might be a idea like pies done with Sidebottom/Pendles although we prob end up with Kiddy and Zorko playing of HB.
Not sure we carry another attacking HB with Motty as well.
Backline as said be interesting
Starc, Wilmott and Andrews are locks. Zorko was AA last year so you think he start there.
Lester should be on form although Doedee back so be Lester/Payne out depends on body
We playing Answerth and McKenna in that last spot. Starting with Answerth as more defensive
When Kiddy comes back someone will need to go. So not sure we have room for Lachie back.

Forward we have Linc back pushing for a role which Kai, AhChee and Bailey have.
And lets not forget Levi
So not sure what room forward we have as well

Wilmot seems to have been earmarked as a winger and probably would've played there if not for injuries. You move him up on that rotation, allowing Neale to move back (if that's something the coaches want to do).

Now that Answorth has cleaned up his disposal, I think McKenna gets taken completely out of the team. Not needed with Motty, Kiddy, Zorko and Answorth as capable attacking options, who can also play other positions (wing, forward, mid/foward, wing).

Out of all of the smalls, Bailey gets the cut for McCarthy, if fit. Bailey just seemed completely out of it for the whole season. At first, I thought it was an injury, but I've watched back games throughout the year, and he looked lost.

The spot we have for sale now is Joe's
Even though Joe is great sometimes someone out is an opportunity for someone to shine.
We have a year of Day, Smith, Ryan and others to make that spot their own so we do not spend big on Allan, Lewis, Darcy etc etc

Will probably be Jamara or Lewis. Pretty sure Allan will stay at the Eagles. Something drastic would have to change to get Allan. He looks keen to sign a long-term deal due to his knee.

 

[M Malice]

Wilmot seems to have been earmarked as a winger and probably would've played there if not for injuries. You move him up on that rotation, allowing Neale to move back (if that's something the coaches want to do).

Now that Answorth has cleaned up his disposal, I think McKenna gets taken completely out of the team. Not needed with Motty, Kiddy, Zorko and Answorth as capable attacking options, who can also play other positions (wing, forward, mid/foward, wing).

Out of all of the smalls, Bailey gets the cut for McCarthy, if fit. Bailey just seemed completely out of it for the whole season. At first, I thought it was an injury, but I've watched back games throughout the year, and he looked lost.



Will probably be Jamara or Lewis. Pretty sure Allan will stay at the Eagles. Something drastic would have to change to get Allan. He looks keen to sign a long-term deal due to his knee.

Yer McKenna is an obvious one to miss out, JUH would be great, I think he would go really well with an elite midfield unit putting on a platter for him.

I thought Zac Bailey had a good finals series, only a few mistakes off being near our best players in finals, definitely best 23 for me at the moment.

 

[CarterS]

Aaron Naughton? Though he is contracted until 2032!!

Ugle-Hagan is mentioned in the AFL.com.au article but he'd be pretty tough to get you'd think.

 

[Dalions]

Wilmot seems to have been earmarked as a winger and probably would've played there if not for injuries. You move him up on that rotation, allowing Neale to move back (if that's something the coaches want to do).

Now that Answorth has cleaned up his disposal, I think McKenna gets taken completely out of the team. Not needed with Motty, Kiddy, Zorko and Answorth as capable attacking options, who can also play other positions (wing, forward, mid/foward, wing).

Out of all of the smalls, Bailey gets the cut for McCarthy, if fit. Bailey just seemed completely out of it for the whole season. At first, I thought it was an injury, but I've watched back games throughout the year, and he looked lost.



Will probably be Jamara or Lewis. Pretty sure Allan will stay at the Eagles. Something drastic would have to change to get Allan. He looks keen to sign a long-term deal due to his knee.

Cant imagine us having the Capital to make JUH happen.
Lewis more likely.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

Sorry for the intrusion, but if Daniher retires, there would genuinely be a conga line of key forwards lining up to want to go to Brisbane.

Brisbanes premiership window is wide open.

Tom Lynch the obvious one, but id be looing at Oscar Allen and making West Coast a huge offer. 2 x firsts + Dev Robertson + Steak knives.

Id also be looking at Harry Mckay.

Theres not a key forward in the league that would turn down the Lions at the moment.

Well, what do you know....