List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Contract Status

Name Final Year Years Service* Status Angus Hastie 2025 2 Unknown Angus McLennan 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Anthony Caminiti 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Arie Schoenmaker 2025 2 Unknown Ben Paton 2024 7 Non-Free Agent Brad Crouch 2025 5 Non-Free Agent Bradley Hill 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent Callum Wilkie 2027 9 Restricted Free Agent Cooper Sharman 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Daniel Butler 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Darcy Wilson 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Dougal Howard 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Hugo Garcia 2025 2 Unknown Hunter Clark 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent Isaac Keeler 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jack Hayes 2024 3 Non-Free Agent Jack Higgins 2027 7 Non-Free Agent Jack Sinclair 2027 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Jack Steele 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent James Van Es 2024 2 DELISTED Jimmy Webster 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Josh Battle 2024 8 UFA - leaving for Hawthorn Lance Collard 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Liam Henry 2027 4 Non-Free Agent Liam O'Connell 2025 2 Unknown Liam Stocker 2024 2 Unrestricted Free Agent Marcus Windhager 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Mason Wood 2024 4 UFA + 3 years (2027) Mattaes Phillipou 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Matthew Allison 2024 4 DELISTED Max Hall 2025 2 Non-Free Agent Max Heath 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max King 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent Mitchito Owens 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Olli Hotton 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Paddy Dow 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Riley Bonner 2024 1 DELISTED Rowan Marshall 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Ryan Byrnes 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Sebastian Ross 2024 13 DELISTED Tim Membrey 2024 10 Unrestricted Free Agent Tom Campbell 2024 3 DELISTED Zaine Cordy 2025 3 Non-Free Agent Zak Jones 2024 5 Non-Free Agent * Years service at end of contract.

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[stfan]

I would like to see St Kilda out of the "Back-up Player" business until if, and when, we actually become a contender.


Having players like Campbell and Cordy on our list in recent times has just been slowing down our ability to build a better team.

We need to keep churning through players to find players who can improve our best 23.

Now this can be via both older and younger players, as well late bloomers. Hawks and Cats have both shown that different routes can improve your team BUT you have to pick the right players. Now not all will make it, but picking players like Cordy and Campbell who were never going to be part of good quality best 23 is just being defeatist.

Dalrymple our Talent Identification and Player Movement Manager is arguably the most important person at the Saints at present. Now do not get me wrong to become better we need many people to do many things well. But we all know we lack talent, and many of us are off the belief that better talent in our midfield is in particular required to move up, and stay up the ladder.


Our picks and trades this year could really make of break our chances for the nest 5 years. I very much see this year as a List Build Tipping Point. Get them right, and we can build on the momentum from our recent good drafting of younger players. Get them wrong, and we could teeter and then others may choose to like Battle leave us for greener pastures. Combined with the Tassie Team coming in to thin out the available talent available, we desperately need to make the right calls in the upcoming trade and draft period..

I fully expect that we will again draft in young players, but also bring in some mature players. The acquisition cost of those mature players will be quite critical. I hope that we do not go for overly go for a quick sugar fix that may help us next year, but nobble our chances over the longer period.

 

[stfan]

As for Ross, .

I think the Club is hoping that it will be Ross out, Macrae in.

 

[ThomasR]

Who wanted Erasmus from Freo?

He's been delisted so it's a free swing.

Is this legit? Can't see it mentioned anywhere. Surely he has trade value

 

[Saints4ever]

I think the Club is hoping that it will be Ross out, Macrae in.

Thanks for your services Seb but Macrae is an instant upgrade.

 

[freo_leo29]

Who wanted Erasmus from Freo?

He's been delisted so it's a free swing.

No he hasn't, contracted til the end of next year

Just came top 7 (3 votes off top) in the Sandover (WAFL Brownlow) from 13 games, would have won if he played the whole year at Peel


definitely not delisted

 

[Miha]

How do posters from other boards know to pop up when we’re talking about their players? What is this wizardry?

 

[freo_leo29]

How do posters from other boards know to pop up when we’re talking about their players? What is this wizardry?

Someone came on our board and asked about Erasmus, so I came to see what the rumour was but it looks like just a mixup

Now I get notifs for this thread lol

 

[Miha]

Someone came on our board and asked about Erasmus, so I came to see what the rumour was but it looks like just a mixup

Now I get notifs for this thread lol

Welcome to St Kilda freo_leo29

 

[St Neil]

Who wanted Erasmus from Freo?

He's been delisted so it's a free swing.

Seems that it isn’t right.

Might be worth a look though. What are the knocks on him?

 

[Saints4ever]

Gosh. What a bust. It’s happened quickly.

What has happened with him?

Hasn’t been delisted.

Not sure why that was posted.

 

[St Neil]

Hasn’t been delisted.

Not sure why that was posted.

I just read that. Edited my post as soon as I saw it.

He has only been in the system for a short time. Looked okay in his draft year.

 

[St Neil]

Love how we’re all using pick 8 imagine the melts if we don’t get it

Even the media are assuming we will get pick 8. Cal Twomey mentioned that he was assuming we were likely to get it.

It would be a shock if we didn’t get it.

 

[BrutThough]

I would like to see St Kilda out of the "Back-up Player" business until if, and when, we actually become a contender.


Having players like Campbell and Cordy on our list in recent times has just been slowing down our ability to build a better team.

You do realise that every team in the comp has older back ups. Contending teams have more than most.

Completely unrealistic to expect any team to stop bringing in ready-to-go types that cost nothing and fill an immediate need.

 

[L_W_P]

Apologies guys.

Don't not why I read Ethan Hughes

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Ethan Hughes

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

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15.1

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K

8.3

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

182.0

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

0.9

2star

MG

133.1

2star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.8

5star

MG

185.8

4star

and thought Erasmus.

 

[The Punter]

I would like to see St Kilda out of the "Back-up Player" business until if, and when, we actually become a contender.

I think this is reasonable except for ruckmen, who are more like soccer goalkeepers now. You have to have a mature back up on your list in case your number one goes down.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Christ , one person says Erasmus has been delisted and its 100% fact , Not sure where he plucked that from but he sure as hell sucked a lot in ,

Just read you got it mixed up , All good we have all done that at times

 

[Remboy]

I think the Club is hoping that it will be Ross out, Macrae in.

For a minute I thought this was a reference to Ross Lyon and Craig McCrae.

 

[Remboy]

I think this is reasonable except for ruckmen, who are more like soccer goalkeepers now. You have to have a mature back up on your list in case your number one goes down.

Agree. And while Cordy and Campbell have been here we’ve still picked up Heath and Van Es. So there is still the balance of youth and experience.

 

[botts]

I think the Club is hoping that it will be Ross out, Macrae in.

Lot of talk that he is keen on Geelong. Makes sense why he hasn’t nominated us.

 

[EconomicDecline]

The game now is quicker than ever and people seem to think if a 30yo has a form slump they are completely cooked ala Membrey. Half the people on this forum were calling for his delisting half way through the year.

AFL being absolutely reckless with player welfare with the direction of the game as is. Could have sworn that at one point, a quarter of all AFL listed players were injured.

 

[Klaatu]

Lot of talk that he is keen on Geelong. Makes sense why he hasn’t nominated us.

You can't nominate a side until the trade window opens that's a AFL rule unless you are an un restricted agent

 

[Sully111]

For a minute I thought this was a reference to Ross Lyon and Craig McCrae.

ewww

 

[Saints TV]

The little writing after that is something along the lines of as per Gettable. So it's not official from the club, but Cal mentioned he did in his weekly show.

AFL just confirmed it - club should announce soon.

 

[StCicatriz]

Who wanted Erasmus from Freo?

He's been delisted so it's a free swing.

Me. I think he's worth a shot. Had some massive wafl games.

I don't think he's been delisted though.

 

[Sully111]

Hope Dougal has another solid year.