Opinion 2024 new player jumper numbers

[smish]

I'm all in favour for leaving the #23 blank until the right person comes. Including but not limited to Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

. I knew it was a shit call when Timmy & Kosi got it.

I also can see Weddle in it to be fair, but I'd like another year of him in his rookie number.

I think a lot of our number changes for the young guys will come in 2025. We've got a lot of players coming OOC in 2024.

Next year:

16 - ???
18 - D'Ambrosio
23 - Vacant
26 - Chol
27 - ???
33 - Ginnivan
34 - McCabe
35 - Pick 4

In 2025, if Breust isn't still running around for us, I'd love to see Mackenzie in the #22. I think he wore it for VIC Metro and really suits him I reckon.

Also, if we draft Watson and if Morrison leaves via FA in 2025, give Watson the #1.

 

[arupist]

I'm all in favour for leaving the #23 blank until the right person comes. Including but not limited to Bailey Smith. I knew it was a s**t call when Timmy & Kosi got it.

I also can see Weddle in it to be fair, but I'd like another year of him in his rookie number.

I think a lot of our number changes for the young guys will come in 2025. We've got a lot of players coming OOC in 2024.

Next year:

16 - ???
18 - D'Ambrosio
23 - Vacant
26 - Chol
27 - ???
33 - Ginnivan
34 - McCabe
35 - Pick 4

In 2025, if Breust isn't still running around for us, I'd love to see Mackenzie in the #22. I think he wore it for VIC Metro and really suits him I reckon.

Also, if we draft Watson and if Morrison leaves via FA in 2025, give Watson the #1.

Would be appropriate if Noodle gives up 7 for McCabe.

 

[Yardie]

Taking an alternate approach and hoping we do what we did last year with the past Hawks being brought in to say who they'd like to give their number to. Here is who I am hoping gets invited to give out the numbers this year.

19 - no input needed - Gunner will return

With some fun editing the club should get Gunston to present it to Gunston.

 

[Hawk Presidente]

I don't hate the Weddle in 23 idea, but I'd prefer to give it a spell for a year.

 

[TylerDurden]

I like 23 for Chol. Think it can work.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

On another note, let's all tip our hats to Moore and Blanck for their service in dejinxing 36 the past few years

Not over the hill yet, but they've reached the top

 

[grumbleguts]

Only if Morrison also gives up number 1 to CJ, so they can be 1 and 2.

Maybe we recruit someone names Juan for that.

 

[caseman2]

I like 23 for Chol. Think it can work.

You want to give 23 to a bloke at his third club with his 2 previous clubs happy to let him go??

 

[Ned Ryerson]

You want to give 23 to a bloke at his third club with his 2 previous clubs happy to let him go??

Sounds like premiership hero Matt Spangher to me.

 

[Tony3163]

You want to give 23 to a bloke at his third club with his 2 previous clubs happy to let him go??

Now he is ...

 

[fairdinks]

I agree with the reverence for #23 - Peck, Scott, Dermie, Buddy, all greats of our club. BUT, buddy left almost a decade ago.

IMO, the only special and legendary number is #5 after the great & courageous Peter Crimmins for more reasons than just his ability to play. It must be reserved for short, blond haired courageous leaders .

Time for other numbers to create their own and history with the new breed.

EDIT: perhaps also Lethal as the best of all time. Jai is such a worthy recipient of the #3

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

Always hated Clarko throwing away number 23 like the jumper meant nothing.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Always hated Clarko throwing away number 23 like the jumper meant nothing.

Not to mention the added pressure it put on TOB at the time.

 

[grumbleguts]

Always hated Clarko throwing away number 23 like the jumper meant nothing.

Throw away?

We had some of the greatest to ever wear the jumper under clarko.

Tim O'Brien and Jacob Koshitkicker

Although there was that lull where that closet swans player had it, so there may be some truth in what you say.

 

[HedgeFund]

Not to mention the added pressure it put on TOB at the time.

Do you think Tim O’Brien thought to himself - geez I’m wearing “the revered” #23 I better play well?

Seems a pretty weird take.

I don’t think players seriously care about the number they wear for more than a few minutes at the annual presentation. Fans might, but professional footballers, not so much.

 

[grumbleguts]

Not to mention the added pressure it put on TOB at the time.

This is a good point, I know this has already been replied to with "players don't care about the number they wear" but given the revered nature of the number at Hawthorn, it would have to have put pressure on him.

 

[smish]

Do you think Tim O’Brien thought to himself - geez I’m wearing “the revered” #23 I better play well?

Seems a pretty weird take.

I don’t think players seriously care about the number they wear for more than a few minutes at the annual presentation. Fans might, but professional footballers, not so much.

I think you'd be surprised.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Do you think Tim O’Brien thought to himself - geez I’m wearing “the revered” #23 I better play well?

Seems a pretty weird take.

I don’t think players seriously care about the number they wear for more than a few minutes at the annual presentation. Fans might, but professional footballers, not so much.

The club made a big deal about it on social media and at the fan day when he was given the number much to the effect of ‘here’s our new 23, cop that Buddy!’ - so yes I do think it would have heaped additional pressure on the kid. Like it or not but we acted like a jilted lover saying ‘we don’t need you anyway Buddy, we’ve got this guy now!!’. Clarko often used to give blokes numbers based on who he’d hope they’d emulate.

 

[HedgeFund]

I think you'd be surprised.

Personally, I haven’t heard or read anything about any players feeling added pressure to perform based on the number printed into the back of their jumper.

By all means you’re welcome to surprise me if you have seen / read anything to the contrary.

 

[HedgeFund]

The club made a big deal about it on social media and at the fan day when he was given the number much to the effect of ‘here’s our new 23, cop that Buddy!’ - so yes I do think it would have heaped additional pressure on the kid. Like it or not but we acted like a jilted lover saying ‘we don’t need you anyway Buddy, we’ve got this guy now!!’. Clarko often used to give blokes numbers based on who he’d hope they’d emulate.

Yes the club did. For marketing purposes most likely.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Yes the club did. For marketing purposes most likely.

TOB himself said he asked the club about the added pressure of the number when he was asked to take it. Sure, the club apparently told him there wasn’t, but it clearly was on the kid’s mind.

I’m not saying it impacted his career trajectory but clearly players are aware of the history of a guernsey when a club is asking them to wear it. Much like if a young player is asked by the Crimmins family to take up the 5 guernsey - I’m sure that kid feels a bit more expectation than if they just got to pick their preferred number.

 

[HedgeFund]

TOB himself said he asked the club about the added pressure of the number when he was asked to take it. Sure, the club apparently told him there wasn’t, but it clearly was on the kid’s mind.

I’m not saying it impacted his career trajectory but clearly players are aware of the history of a guernsey when a club is asking them to wear it. Much like if a young player is asked by the Crimmins family to take up the 5 guernsey - I’m sure that kid feels a bit more expectation than if they just got to pick their preferred number.

Yeah as I said for a few minutes in presentation day most likely.

No doubt someone at the club quickly pointed out it had still been allocated and worn by a few lesser lights throughout the 90s.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Yeah as I said for a few minutes in presentation day most likely.

No doubt someone at the club quickly pointed out it had still been allocated and worn by a few lesser lights throughout the 90s.

There are players who won’t run though the banner in certain ways (don’t let it touch them, won’t run through it first etc). Sport is littered with players who have superstitions, rituals and routines that they have to follow. Some amazing athletes have been known to routinely throw up before big games. But, sure, it would be completely out of the realms of possibility that a 19 year old forward who is yet to debut could get a bit of additional pressure put on him in the back of his mind when given Buddy Franklin’s number after he left the club in very sensational circumstances. Yes, silly me for even suggesting it.

 

[lyger]

There are players who won’t run though the banner in certain ways (don’t let it touch them, won’t run through it first etc). Sport is littered with players who have superstitions, rituals and routines that they have to follow. Some amazing athletes have been known to routinely throw up before big games. But, sure, it would be completely out of the realms of possibility that a 19 year old forward who is yet to debut could get a bit of additional pressure put on him in the back of his mind when given Buddy Franklin’s number after he left the club in very sensational circumstances. Yes, silly me for even suggesting it.

Agree that who you are inheriting the number from can be another source of pressure (on top of historical significance of the number). In the eyes of some, it’s a reminder/reference that you are the ‘new buddy’.

I never met TOB, but he doesn’t seem like the type to relish being compared to a very high profile champion player.

 

[projectdingley]

Stuff the stereotypes. It’s a new era.

Give Nick Watson the #23.

May aswell give him a good number now. No point changing his number in a years time when half the supporter base has his jersey already.