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And Port have been known for being a strong running side.
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KermitJagger
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I'm not sure all those guys ran
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Given they ran 4 segments of 1km time trials, how did they arrive at the top 5.
Do they avg the times? Or is the rankings from just the 1st time trial 1km run.
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I’ve liked the look of Butler from the start.
Not sure why he hasn’t delivered on that (seems injuries) but hopefully he is gonna breakout.
Beating Maginness is a HUGE achievement. Butler is now an elite runner.
We are gonna run a lot of teams off their feet. With out big inside mids winning the ball and distributing, I think we will have some big wins if our forwards stand up.
Not sure why he hasn’t delivered on that (seems injuries) but hopefully he is gonna breakout.
Beating Maginness is a HUGE achievement. Butler is now an elite runner.
We are gonna run a lot of teams off their feet. With out big inside mids winning the ball and distributing, I think we will have some big wins if our forwards stand up.
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I think I saw Amon and Morrison just behind the top 5 in the footage.
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Yep, the footage shows that Amon, Jiath, Moore and Nash were all present and took part in the time trial.
Result: 1: Josh Weddle, 2: Sam Butler, 3: Finn Maginness, 4: Josh Ward, 5: Connor Macdonald
As stated by many others it is a great result for Butler. He has finished before some seriously good runners.
But CMac‘s result is also worthy of note. His fitness bodes well for more midfield minutes.
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Still think we lack a mid who has genuine burst away from a pack speed like say Degoey, although Newk is not bad at this.
As you say next year will all be about how our new look forward line goes which lets be honest is completely unknown at this stage.
I agree we have a good mix now of big powerful inside mids and very good endurance runners on the outside.
Still think we lack a mid who has genuine burst away from a pack speed like say Degoey, although Newk is not bad at this.
As you say next year will all be about how our new look forward line goes which lets be honest is completely unknown at this stage.
With pick 5, Hawthorn selects...
edit: he likely won't be a mid, but will become a regular as forward half stoppages
Heaven help anybody from my workplace who knocked on my front door at 6am.
This is something that makes me thoughtful about players who don't thrive in the AFL. Sometimes it's not about ambition or working hard. I'd go nuts if someone expected me to sacrifice my personal space and reassess my professional development goals every 5 minutes. I wouldn't care how much cash I was leaving on the table, I'd find another job.
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Yes .
I thought he gone midway through the season . Something changed for the good and we started to see talent mixing with a better work ethic .
Still a way to go .
Maybe the core of the young guys flying past him was the kicker he needed ???
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Everything my mate said about him when we traded up and got him has proven spot on .
Great kid too . We have an absolute ripper here , but thats nothing any of us here dont know !
DK put a clinic on the other day ......we now just need DGB to become our JA17 athletic package
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I guess the point though is that your body is your tool to perform your job. Equipment requires regular maintenance.
And the length of the career on average is so short. Regular goal reassessment is just condensed to suit that time frame.
Plus, is there any other job in the world where the adrenaline rush of success is so high? I could easily deal with the constant scrutiny of my diet, exercise program etc knowing I get to run out on the MCG in front of thousands of people and kick the footy on the weekend.
Injured a lot and unable to perform early on in his career.
What I'm most hopeful about for him is that this signals he's free of whatever residue there might have been from what held him back at GC.
But overall just so friggin damn positive reading about everyone's performances in the endurance stakes. The really strong runners were such a big plus for their team's in the 90s before mass rotations arrived.
As the demands of the game have gone up, to catch up to everyone's attempts to milk the interchange to get more run out of everyone/sustain transitional pressure, maybe we'll get back to that more than we already have.
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Hopefully it’s not that Amons time went backwards (haven’t seen any times)
Weddle seems suited to the multiple 1 km trials we seem to do. His 2km time at combine was very good but not as amazing as his running has been since he’s got to the club.
Butlers effort is a good sign - he really struggled with fitness in his first year (injury interrupted first pre season). He also has genuine speed.
The impressive thing about weddle and finn is they are doing this at ~90kg - they are not skinny runners.
Would love to know how the times compare to what say issac smith and hill did at their peak.
Butlers effort is a good sign - he really struggled with fitness in his first year (injury interrupted first pre season). He also has genuine speed.
The impressive thing about weddle and finn is they are doing this at ~90kg - they are not skinny runners.
Would love to know how the times compare to what say issac smith and hill did at their peak.
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That's true The Wiz does have genuine burst speed.
Would like to see us throw him in the middle for short bursts like we used to do with Cyril.
Probably later in his career though after he has a bit of size.
He also clocked the yoyo test.
Whichever way you slice it, his Vo2 max is elite for any athlete. And this type of running lends itself well to AFL. Plus he's only 19. Freak athlete.
Now that Butler has demonstrated his elite aerobic capabilities I’m wondering if Sam might have him earmarked for a role on the wing where his endurance can be put to good use. He would probably have to dislodge Ward to get a run, but it’s certainly not out of the question.
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Gotta admit, when I read "A rundown of the day from Burgey" I thought I'd see him tackle someone from behind, and instead got an interesting recap. Not sure if I am supposed to be disappointed or interested.
Given DGBs obvious weakness from the start has been his endurance, is it a bit concerning he wasnt noted as running a PB? Not here to DGB bash but seems a bit strange given his PB would be a relatively low bar compared to the rest of the group. Maybe they’re focusing on him gaining size first?
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It's pretty hard to simultaneously gain significant strength and size while improving endurance.
You would have to be a genetic outlier or juicing in most scenarios.
He was drafted as a 78kg skinny kid and his measurements from last preseason was 84kg. He looks like he would be pushing high 80s now.
Fair bit of weight to pack on but looks like there's going to be a few more years of physical development to go.
Sorry but it only takes 3 months to get professional level fit. That’s doing 12-15 sessions a week. You can hold muscle mass too with the right diet. Putting it on can take years though I agree, but getting professional level fit doesn’t take 3 years. Getting to elite level fitness can take upto 3-4 years though. He’s a full time athlete, if he can’t run out games by now there’s something not right. Needs to find it, it’s going to be make or break for him this year.
