Training 2024 Preseason reports and discussion

[Roddy]

He was AA. Big gap to Frost.

Cavernous…

 

[Bee Dee 63]

It’s fun to think about how insanely good Newk is going to be when he’s 25-26 and is in his prime. He’s going to absolutely destroy sides.

He reminds me most of Mark Ricciutto in his appearance and the way he plays.
He's already delivering the same sorts of numbers as Ricciutto in his prime, and only needs to increase his goal output by 1 per game to have him completely covered.
It took 'Roo' 5 seasons to get to that level. Jai is there in half the time.

 

[Slainte]

He reminds me most of Mark Ricciutto in his appearance and the way he plays.
He's already delivering the same sorts of numbers as Ricciutto in his prime, and only needs to increase his goal output by 1 per game to have him completely covered.
It took 'Roo' 5 seasons to get to that level. Jai is there in half the time.

No need to go back to Ricciutto. Petracca ia a contemporary of the same ilk. Numbers are broadly similar but Petracca is more productive on the scoreboard and has a slight edge in clearances and possessions. But it is extraordinary that the Duke is very close to rarified territory after just 51 games. Has he peaked or can he match the greats?

 

[TylerDurden]

He reminds me most of Mark Ricciutto in his appearance and the way he plays.
He's already delivering the same sorts of numbers as Ricciutto in his prime, and only needs to increase his goal output by 1 per game to have him completely covered.
It took 'Roo' 5 seasons to get to that level. Jai is there in half the time.

100%
I called the Ricciuto comparison on his debut.

 

[Steven Tyler]

100%
I called the Ricciuto comparison on his debut.

Newk had a record amount of tackles in his debut game

Ricciuto hip and shouldered everyone into la la land and didn’t bother tackling

 

[unitedhawk]

No need to go back to Ricciutto. Petracca ia a contemporary of the same ilk. Numbers are broadly similar but Petracca is more productive on the scoreboard and has a slight edge in clearances and possessions. But it is extraordinary that the Duke is very close to rarified territory after just 51 games. Has he peaked or can he match the greats?

Reports suggest some St Kilda-aligned ex-players, perhaps influenced by a former team-mate of theirs who was a relative failure as an assistant coach with us, reckon his ceiling is limited.

I'm going to enjoy hearing/watching these supposed experts squirm when our current No.3 proves himself to be a 'lethal' gun over the next decade.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Reports suggest some St Kilda-aligned ex-players, perhaps influenced by a former team-mate of theirs who was a relative failure as an assistant coach with us, reckon his ceiling is limited.

I'm going to enjoy hearing/watching these supposed experts squirm when our current No.3 proves himself to be a 'lethal' gun over the next decade.

Nathan Buckley was a fan very early on and that was enough for me. Sky is the limit.

 

[barbster]

He reminds me most of Mark Ricciutto in his appearance and the way he plays.
He's already delivering the same sorts of numbers as Ricciutto in his prime, and only needs to increase his goal output by 1 per game to have him completely covered.
It took 'Roo' 5 seasons to get to that level. Jai is there in half the time.

Reminds me of Lethal.

 

[Slainte]

Reminds me of Lethal.

Big call.

Lethal and Barassi are probably the only two serious AFL GOAT contenders. Next level are players like Hodge, Voss and Ricciuto. Newcombe has a way to go yet.

 

[Argy]

Big call.

Lethal and Barassi are probably the only two serious AFL GOAT contenders. Next level are players like Hodge, Voss and Ricciuto. Newcombe has a way to go yet.

Agreed. But he exudes the same sort of authority.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I like it as well

The era of the super team is over (at least for the moment) and premierships will be won by clubs that can develop a team that covers their weak points and emphasizes their strengths.

Collingwood is a case in point this year, I don't think they were that much more talented than the other top 4 sides but they picked a side every weak that knew their game plan inside out.

Time the Hawks started to prioritise wins as a winning culture has a habit of snowballing (as does a losing one).

A lot of really average footballers in the collingwood premiership team. But an awesome unit.

 

[The Chad and I]

Sam Mitchell:

• Nick Watson physically ready for senior football and doing most of the training.
• Chol started pushing at 95% and "smooth mover".
• McCabe great athlete, but not ready.
• Calsher Dear surprising to the upside.
• Bodie Ryan the 'bolter' looking like he's gonna be a good player.

 

[matey]

We all know what Newk brings to the table a brilliant player/teammate when he is on ……… what will elevate him to becoming a great is doing it consistently week in week out for 10 years. Being able to spend some time forward to snag a couple would be nice as well. He has the character willpower and competitiveness to work his butt off and do it I reckon

I liked listening to commentators during the year who he has won over already that love watching him play.

 

[matey]

Sam Mitchell:

• Nick Watson physically ready for senior football and doing most of the training.
• Chol started pushing at 95% and "smooth mover".
• McCabe great athlete, but not ready.
• Calsher Dear surprising to the upside.
• Bodie Ryan the 'bolter' looking like he's gonna be a good player.

Watson’s agility and smarts will hopefully avoid the physical clashes with opponents who are bigger and stronger. If the ball is on the ground and has to be won he is the type that will do a little tap on etc to a teammate or until he’s right to gather the ball. Once he’s got it expect things to happen. We’ve just gotta get the ball to him as much as possible. As I said at training last week when Wiz got the ball Mitch yelled out “Speed do your thing” which shows how the club wants him to play approach the game. On the lead a couple times he also looked unstoppable. From only a couple of steps he creates good space and hits the ball hard when meeting the ball if you know what I mean and can jump. And the strut ……. really looking forward to watching him play and taking the game on.

Yeah with Bodie something about him for an 18yo kid plays with little fear bit of hard arse about him.

 

[Yardie]

And the strut …….

Sold. In round 1.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

We have an inter-club game against WB at Whitten Oval I believe?

Anyone know if it's open to spectators?
I'm only asking as I read somewhere that some teams aren't making these games general admission - I think North Melbourne are one such club.

If we are allowed in - free to Members?

Thanks all.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Sam Mitchell:

• Nick Watson physically ready for senior football and doing most of the training.
• Chol started pushing at 95% and "smooth mover".
• McCabe great athlete, but not ready.
• Calsher Dear surprising to the upside.
• Bodie Ryan the 'bolter' looking like he's gonna be a good player.

With regards to Ryan do track watchers think he has an AFL body / fitness base yet?

If Hardwick does indeed play forward there is a spot for someone to play that mid sized hard nosed defender / offensive Backman hybrid role which seems to be right in Bodies wheelhouse.

 

[Topiary]

With regards to Ryan do track watchers think he has an AFL body / fitness base yet?

If Hardwick does indeed play forward there is a spot for someone to play that mid sized hard nosed defender / offensive Backman hybrid role which seems to be right in Bodies wheelhouse.

Agree.

 

[SSSSSS]

Well this is new. I always thought it was the carrot OR the stick.............

Hopefully the stick isn't too long,so they can get to the carrot?

Carrot and/or the stick?

 

[nickrebellious]

Hardwick forward, reminds me of Campbell Brown

Campbell Brown

Age

41

Ht

179cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

playing up forward. Had a huge impact there in Q1 of the 2008 grand final.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Hardwick forward, reminds me of Campbell Brown playing up forward. Had a huge impact there in Q1 of the 2008 grand final.

Kicked the first or second goal from on the paint of 50 if memory serves me correctly

 

[Fleabane]

Sam Mitchell:

• Nick Watson physically ready for senior football and doing most of the training.
• Chol started pushing at 95% and "smooth mover".
• McCabe great athlete, but not ready.
• Calsher Dear surprising to the upside.
• Bodie Ryan the 'bolter' looking like he's gonna be a good player.

Where is this from? A recent interview?

 

[JaegarTime]

Kicked the first or second goal from on the paint of 50 if memory serves me correctly

Remember being at the final training of 2008 and seeing him practice from the exact spot he slotted that goal from

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Where is this from? A recent interview?

Club held a post draft overview via zoom for members

 

[Steven Tyler]

Kicked the first or second goal from on the paint of 50 if memory serves me correctly

Changa kicked our first