2024 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[HeHateMe]

Sicily always has that competitive edge being one of the most damaging rebounding defenders in the comp on-top of his work as a CHB. He is still owed one for 2022.

I do think Collins season has been really unheralded, and I do like Buckley was thinking to myself the other day he would be the perfect KPD to trade for.

Wilkie probably another one in the Buckley category that's worth a shoutout and I can't resist the opportunity to give Scrimshaw a plug as well, doesn't have the profile yet but if he backs up this season again next year watch out.

 

[Antonio_RooLife]

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[STPer18]

2nd in the Coleman btw.

 

[Mr Meow]

Cameron's best 10 games in total this season have bettered any other forwards best 10.

The issue is his other 12 were either poor/average in general (about 6) or were ruined by sub-par conversion from a series of gettable shots (another 6).

3.21 goals/assists and 16ish disposals in the modern game is still great output. But for a player of his talent he should be going at 4 goals/assists a game while leading the league for score involvements.

Jezza is ahead of Curnow now by totals, but not averages. He is more of a classic CHF than Curnow is. However they are happy picking 2 or 3 full forwards every year so I'm not sure that's a factor.

I still think they'll go with Curnow.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

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[Sean_09]

2nd in the Coleman btw.

Should of had 12+ the way the Eagles played today

 

[hawkman]

Cameron's best 10 games in total this season have bettered any other forwards best 10.

The issue is his other 12 were either poor/average in general (about 6) or were ruined by sub-par conversion from a series of gettable shots (another 6).

3.21 goals/assists and 16ish disposals in the modern game is still great output. But for a player of his talent he should be going at 4 goals/assists a game while leading the league for score involvements.

Jezza is ahead of Curnow now by totals, but not averages. He is more of a classic CHF than Curnow is. However they are happy picking 2 or 3 full forwards every year so I'm not sure that's a factor.

I still think they'll go with Curnow.

Cameron has kicked 39 in his best 8 games, 19 in his other 14. In comparison Curnow has 31 in his best 8 but 26 in his other 13

 

[Mr Meow]

Cameron has kicked 39 in his best 8 games, 19 in his other 14. In comparison Curnow has 31 in his best 8 but 26 in his other 13

That's exactly what I was saying. Thanks for backing me up!

 

[PenAndPaper]

McGovern at CHB

Who has been better?

Key backs:
McKay - no
Barass - no
McCartin, Melican - no
Pearce, Draper - no
Taylor, Buckley - no
Andrews - maybe
Frost, Sicily - no
Miller - no
Jones, Lobb - no
Chom - no
Howard, Battle, Wilkie - no
Henry - no
Aliir - no
Keane, Worrell - no
Moore, Frampton - no
May, Lever - no
Ballard - no
Collins - maybe

Thoughts?

Don't you ****ing dare!

 

[PenAndPaper]

Just did mine through the AA selector.

Honestly if I could pick players outside the 44 I would have Cameron above Waterman. Some very stiff players to miss out though for sure.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

Just did mine through the AA selector.
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Honestly if I could pick players outside the 44 I would have Cameron above Waterman. Some very stiff players to miss out though for sure.

Not bad. I had Neale in. Ill update and put in Gulden, bruzzy unlucky, Heeney should be on ground. I omitted Sheezel.

Rankine missed too many games.

Jezza over Waterman Gawn and Xerri both deserve spots

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

With Buckley and Cornes on the selection committee it’s hard not to see D’Ambrossio in the team. They both gush over him.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

With Buckley and Cornes on the selection committee it’s hard not to see D’Ambrossio in the team. They both gush over him.

Too many other good players imo. The inside mids this year have been off the charts good compared to the flankers and KPP. It's likely going to be down to a Merrett/Treloar type vs Massimo on the wing and I think it's going to be a bit too difficult to argue for him over those players

 

[Iceman!]

Too many other good players imo. The inside mids this year have been off the charts good compared to the flankers and KPP. It's likely going to be down to a Merrett/Treloar type vs Massimo on the wing and I think it's going to be a bit too difficult to argue for him over those players

Such a shame we even have to argue for why a genuine elite winger deserves a spot on a wing over an inside mid.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Such a shame we even have to argue for why a genuine elite winger deserves a spot on a wing over an inside mid.

I'm not too fussed with it. From my experience nearly all good wingers are just failed on ballers who had elite tanks but weren't good enough in tight to make the shift.

If Merrett played out there for a whole year I'd have little doubt he'd be one of the best wings in the league.

Merretts and Treloar are overall just better players though so imo should get the nod

 

[Lingsface]

Ryan Andrews Blakey
Zorko Mcgovern Daicos
Merrett Cripps Gulden
Bont Cameron Heeney
Moore Hogan Stengle

Gawn Serong Neale

Daniher Holmes Waterman Butters

 

[Iceman!]

I'm not too fussed with it. From my experience nearly all good wingers are just failed on ballers who had elite tanks but weren't good enough in tight to make the shift.

If Merrett played out there for a whole year I'd have little doubt he'd be one of the best wings in the league.

Merretts and Treloar are overall just better players though so imo should get the nod

Lets use the same logic for all positions. How many defenders are just failed forwards should we just start picking elite forwards because 'well they could probably play the position just as well'?

It is a specialised position, is a Merrett going to be wiling to rack up 10k's while seeing the ball come to his wing once to hold up to his teams structures? No doubting his skill but playing on a wing is bloody tough, reward the guys who do it best.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Merretts and Treloar are overall just better players though so imo should get the nod

The point is though, you don't know how they'd go playing the whole season on the wing because they don't play there.

If those two were elite wingmen, you'd have seen them pushed out there at some stage.

Maybe actually watch Massimo play for a few weeks, and form an opinion based on his ability to play that position.

It's not a role for plodders or inside midfielders to hack mungs forward any time they win the ball.

Neither of those guys are as good a kick as D'Ambrosio, one in particular wouldn't be putting laser beams into the path of teammates upfield with guys hanging off of him. The other is not as quick.

He'd torch those two if they went out to man him up.

But we won't see that, because the idea that you'd ever send either out there is just plain dumb.

 

[Rash]

my issue with massimo is that his first half of the year was weak. the gun mids who are competing with massimo have all had good first and second half of the years. the likes of merrett,serong,butters, neale and trelor.

 

[Iceman!]

my issue with massimo is that his first half of the year was weak. the gun mids who are competing with massimo have all had good first and second half of the years. the likes of merrett,serong,butters, neale and trelor.

But they aren't competing with him that is the point no one is claiming Massimo is a better player but he is a better winger.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

But they aren't competing with him that is the point no one is claiming Massimo is a better player but he is a better winger.

Repeat after me.

Wingers and small defenders are invisible to AA selectors.
One gets a mid picked in its place, the other an intercept halfback flanker.

 

[Iceman!]

Repeat after me.

Wingers and small defenders are invisible to AA selectors.
One gets a mid picked in its place, the other an intercept halfback flanker.

Half forwards as well the majority of the time.

 

[Mr Meow]

But they aren't competing with him that is the point no one is claiming Massimo is a better player but he is a better winger.

Yeah sorry, you have basically zero chance of being selected as a wingman unless you are a hybrid wingman/midfielder. Josh Daicos and Gulden last year basically fit the bill. Josh with 3 clearances a game and a very decent coaches votes total. Gulden with almost 4 clearances a game and right up there for coaches votes with the big mids.

Massimo: welcome to the life of Isaac Smith, Mitch Duncan, Hugh McLuggage et al. All of whom have had better seasons and not been selected. Hugh did play inside mid a bit more so was probably edging closer to selection.

 

[Iceman!]

Yeah sorry, you have basically zero chance of being selected as a wingman unless you are a hybrid wingman/midfielder. Josh Daicos and Gulden last year basically fit the bill. Josh with 3 clearances a game and a very decent coaches votes total. Gulden with almost 4 clearances a game and right up there for coaches votes with the big mids.

Massimo: welcome to the life of Isaac Smith, Mitch Duncan, Hugh McLuggage et al. All of whom have had better seasons and not been selected. Hugh did play inside mid a bit more so was probably edging closer to selection.

I am not at all disputing that, i doubt he gets picked. I agree he will get stiffed, just voicing my criticism of the idea that others have been 'better' when not playing the same position. He is not the first and won't be the last but i will continue to call our the BS until one day we maybe actually get selectors with half a brain willing to pick an actual team and not just pick and choose when they want to use the 'it has to resemble a team' argument.

 

[toomanysquibs]

my issue with massimo is that his first half of the year was weak. t

Possibly the dumbest argument against his inclusion in this whole thread.

He's been good all year. That's why he's in the conversation.