2024 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[HirdsTheWord]

How do they look at the same stage of their careers?

And if you think Massimo would not torch Merrett for pace, you're absolutely out of your mind.

Who cares how they look at their stage of their careers?

You're just twisting it to suit your absurd statement.

Ambrosio is a gun who could 3 Brownlow's or he could also do his ACL next year and his career might be over.

Why are you getting stuck in coulda woulda shoulda arguments?

You made a statement that Ambrosio would torch Merrett, now you're suggesting you only mean in a foot race lol?

Merrett is one of the best chases down tackles in the league, there's only a handful of players in this league that would out pace Merrett with the ball, and Ambrosio isn't one of them.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Especially given Merrett would be close to the hardest working 2 way mid in the comp atm. His defensive running and ability to get up and back is absolutely elite.

Has been for a while.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Who cares how they look at their stage of their careers?

You're just twisting it to suit your absurd statement.

Ambrosio is a gun who could 3 Brownlow's or he could also do his ACL next year and his career might be over.

Why are you getting stuck in coulda woulda shoulda arguments?

You made a statement that Ambrosio would torch Merrett, now you're suggesting you only mean in a foot race lol?

Merrett is one of the best chases down tackles in the league, there's only a handful of players in this league that would out pace Merrett with the ball, and Ambrosio isn't one of them.

I'm sorry you've walked into the middle of Geelong folks comparing the careers of guys who are either finished, or almost finished etc.

But the only comparison I can make it where he's at now vs. those guys, and how complete a player he looks.

Otherwise this is the 2024 AA team thread.

I put his name forward, and suggested some people might not realize a pure wing is a different job to a ball winning mid.

Particularly if you haven't looked at how hard Mass runs both ways, and how fast.

The wing isn't like the congestion most mids play in, and a lot of these numpty arguments are not relevant to it.

It's why Isaac Smith had the career he had (and no, I didn't bring his name into things either).

Look forward to Merrett being such an asset to your team on the wing that they start lining him up there, instead of where he's clearly better suited.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Can we agree that:

Captains/vice-captains should come from a top 4 side (naming Cripps captain after basically 'losing' a finals spot is wild to me)

Defenders (not rebounding attacking players) should come from the best defensive sides.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I'm sorry you've walked into the middle of Geelong folks comparing the careers of guys who are either finished, or almost finished etc.

But the only comparison I can make it where he's at now vs. those guys, and how complete a player he looks.

Otherwise this is the 2024 AA team thread.

I put his name forward, and suggested some people might not realize a pure wing is a different job to a ball winning mid.

Particularly if you haven't looked at how hard Mass runs both ways, and how fast.

The wing isn't like the congestion most mids play in, and a lot of these numpty arguments are not relevant to it.

It's why Isaac Smith had the career he had (and no, I didn't bring his name into things either).

Look forward to Merrett being such an asset to your team on the wing that they start lining him up there, instead of where he's clearly better suited.

you're the one who compared Ambrosio to Merrett, and suggested he would torch him.

Dont make absurd statements if you dont want to get called out for it?

 

[TheUnicorn]

It’s funny to see how much Hawthorn supporters are swooning over D'Ambrosio now!

I still remember when Essendon fans were singing his praises, calling him an absolute weapon and lamenting his departure. Meanwhile, Hawthorn supporters were convinced he was a spud and that we were way overestimating him!

I am a massive fan of D'AmbrosioI’m, was always one of my favourites, thrilled to see him thriving, though I wish it was happening in the red and black!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can we agree that:

Captains/vice-captains should come from a top 4 side (naming Cripps captain after basically 'losing' a finals spot is wild to me)

Defenders (not rebounding attacking players) should come from the best defensive sides.

Just because their teams suck eggs doesn't mean Bont and Cripps aren't the best 'leaders' in the comp despite no top 4 finish.

When the games on the line those two consistently assert their authority to try and win it for their team and go to a level others often cannot. Does it always result in the team winning? No.

 

[toomanysquibs]

you're the one who compared Ambrosio to Merrett, and suggested he would torch him.

Dont make absurd statements if you dont want to get called out for it?

I didn't bring the other players into it. That was the Cats crew.

Their point was others have had better years on the wing, and still not made the team.

My point was that he has some attributes better than them, and looks a more complete player. Particularly with the way the game has shifted the last couple of years.

I've watched a lot of careers unfold, and know enough to understand how it goes from here is what defines him.

Which is why I compared Mitch Duncan et. al. to him in the same year of their careers. It's very much favorable to Mass at this point.

But he's also just off a Rookie list, and has played his first full season. He could be Lance Franklin, or Daniel Menzel trajectory wise.

 

[toomanysquibs]

It’s funny to see how much Hawthorn supporters are swooning over D'Ambrosio now!

I still remember when Essendon fans were singing his praises, calling him an absolute weapon and lamenting his departure. Meanwhile, Hawthorn supporters were convinced he was a spud and that we were way overestimating him!

I am a massive fan of D'AmbrosioI’m, was always one of my favourites, thrilled to see him thriving, though I wish it was happening in the red and black!

Any doubts Hawks fans had about him would have erased after his first game.

Guy is an absolute weapon. We've never had a genuine high caliber wingman with next level foot skills along the lines of a Pritchard or Smith, who are also a contested ball winner by nature.

The fact that he's allowed Karl Amon to play half back flank all year instead of wing should be telling people something.

 

[janty]

Can just imagine Kane Cornes banging on the table for JHF to be named on the half forward line at the next meeting.

 

[Iceman!]

Dont get me wrong, Massimo is an absolute jet but suggesting he is better than Merrett?

lol

just lunacy.

The comparisons are just stupid, one is an inside mid and the other is a winger. Comparing them is a waste of time.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I didn't bring the other players into it. That was the Cats crew.

Their point was others have had better years on the wing, and still not made the team.

My point was that he has some attributes better than them, and looks a more complete player. Particularly with the way the game has shifted the last couple of years.

I've watched a lot of careers unfold, and know enough to understand how it goes from here is what defines him.

Which is why I compared Mitch Duncan et. al. to him in the same year of their careers. It's very much favorable to Mass at this point.

But he's also just off a Rookie list, and has played his first full season. He could be Lance Franklin, or Daniel Menzel trajectory wise.

You are projecting what he could be, not what he currently is.

For all you know he could also be Darcy Parish, has an AA year and then never does it again. just because Mass has 1 good year, doesn't mean he will replicate that for a career.

I dont really care what your other comparison was anyway.

You used the words Massimo would torch Merrett. It was dumb then, and its dumb now. You look like a fool making these statements.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Can we agree that:

Captains/vice-captains should come from a top 4 side (naming Cripps captain after basically 'losing' a finals spot is wild to me)

Defenders (not rebounding attacking players) should come from the best defensive sides.

Problem is who in the top 4 will make it and is a captain you aren’t seriously suggesting Butters as captain or something

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Can just imagine Kane Cornes banging on the table for JHF to be named on the half forward line at the next meeting.

Probably deserves it and at least he’s justified off the HFF just hope they don’t leave Moore out to fit the bloke in that’s all

 

[HairyO]

Lets use the same logic for all positions. How many defenders are just failed forwards should we just start picking elite forwards because 'well they could probably play the position just as well'?

It is a specialised position, is a Merrett going to be wiling to rack up 10k's while seeing the ball come to his wing once to hold up to his teams structures? No doubting his skill but playing on a wing is bloody tough, reward the guys who do it best.

Dunstall always said this. If they were any good they'd be playing forward.

Sicily proves this because when he goes forward he kicks goals.

So we should put 12 or 13 midfielders scattered around the ground in any position we want.

 

[adammania9]

Yeah, I'd be happy to swap N.Daicos on to the field for D'Ambrosio.

I honestly don't think Weitering has had that great of a year. Certainly the 2nd half of his season has been very average.
If I was going to bring in another tall defender I'd choose Sicily, Scrimshaw (seriously, not biased here) or even Sam Collins before Weitering.

"Not biased"

 

[cybercrab]

Weird year for key defenders, Pearce would've been a lock for me if he didn't get injured. McGovern has had a great year but he chances will be hurt playing for west coast + Barrass missing a lot of games

 

[Sixpence]

It’s funny to see how much Hawthorn supporters are swooning over D'Ambrosio now!

I still remember when Essendon fans were singing his praises, calling him an absolute weapon and lamenting his departure. Meanwhile, Hawthorn supporters were convinced he was a spud and that we were way overestimating him!

I am a massive fan of D'AmbrosioI’m, was always one of my favourites, thrilled to see him thriving, though I wish it was happening in the red and black!

This sounds very revisionist to me and certainly isn't how I remember everyone's take on him. You guys kept telling us he was a defensive liability and that his kicking was the only thing he had going for him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Weird year for key defenders, Pearce would've been a lock for me if he didn't get injured. McGovern has had a great year but he chances will be hurt playing for west coast + Barrass missing a lot of games

Yep, I'll be interested to see the 'games cuttoff' they may still name Taylor despite missing games, thought I remember it being 18 or 19 games but that's purely from memory and if anyone knows I'm all ears. Can see them picking Sicily if Taylor isn't available, Andrews has the FB surely.

 

[Orange crush]

Yep, I'll be interested to see the 'games cuttoff' they may still name Taylor despite missing games, thought I remember it being 18 or 19 games but that's purely from memory and if anyone knows I'm all ears. Can see them picking Sicily if Taylor isn't available, Andrews has the FB surely.

16 is the cut off …. You need to play more than 16

 

[LukeParkerno1]

16 is the cut off …. You need to play more than 16

How many has Taylor played? Can't be that much less than that figure. I mean I'd pick Buckley but he's not the 'pretty' pick

 

[Rash]

Can just imagine Kane Cornes banging on the table for JHF to be named on the half forward line at the next meeting.

it would go something like this

Kane Cornes at the All Australian Meeting this afternoon:

Kane: proceeds to lock the door ' I am not leaving this room until the hornet is named as the AA captain' whilst bagning on the table.

 

[Orange crush]

How many has Taylor played? Can't be that much less than that figure. I mean I'd pick Buckley but he's not the 'pretty' pick

Unsurprisingly Taylor has played 16

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Unsurprisingly Taylor has played 16

Then pick him, if 16 is the cutoff I'd be okay with that selection, it's not as if you are leaving out some defender who has been elite this year. Even Andrews who is a certainty has got well beaten on occasions this year.

 

[Orange crush]

Then pick him, if 16 is the cutoff I'd be okay with that selection, it's not as if you are leaving out some defender who has been elite this year. Even Andrews who is a certainty has got well beaten on occasions this year.

He’s a game short … 16 is no go apparently