List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[LJC05]

Sounds like one won’t be at Melbourne next year.

So I’m not sure Clarry is out of the firing line yet. Petracca has a lot of anger about how Melbourne dealt with Oliver

I feel this whole situation makes Clarry more gettable than ever and the cost probably going down by the day the longer Petracca is upset.

 

[Remboy]

10 years from now basically.

I was thinking it was because of RTB.
Ross as we know has very very high standards and no doubt pushes the players.

That high level isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea.

Maybe Josh is one of those players.
Maybe he sees from the outside Hawthorn are a fun team.

If that’s the case he could be in for a rude awakening when pre season starts. I don’t think Sam Mitchell would be the type to go easy on players.
And if adhering to higher standards was the reason he left he can disappear as far as I’m concerned. Go through the motions somewhere else.

 

[malevu]

Lukosius is a similar profile to Battle. Age wise and height. Also a forward who was sent to the backline.

He's probably headed back to SA but reports are Melbourne clubs have shown interest.

He'd probably cost too much draft capital anyway.

 

[Miha]

Garcia from the Doggies rotting in the VFL, handy player

 

[St Neil]

I wonder what we'll have to give up for Konstanty, was a late first round pick two years ago (pick 20). Missed a lot of 2023 injured, can't break into Swans team with a few in front of him. From Drouhin.

Early third.

 

[St Neil]

I might get hunted down for this, but I’d take the risk out of Collard and trade him this year. Take WC 2R and see what we can do.

High risk, high reward.

Back the lad in.

 

[St Neil]

Defensive 1v1 loss % 2024

Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

18.8
Jayden Laverde

15

Jayden Laverde

Age

28

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.8

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

152.8

2star

D

8.8

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

116.5

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.6

5star

MG

141.2

3star

35.7
Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

17.6

Others (out of interest)

Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

16.7
Steven May

1

Steven May

Age

32

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

13.5
Tom mccartin

30

Tom Mccartin

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

129.5

2star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

0.8

1star

MG

87.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

168.0

3star

20.6
Tom Barass 34.4
Sam Dekoning 30.3
Noah Balta

21

Noah Balta

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.7

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.9

4star

MG

236.3

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.3

1star

MG

233.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

217.4

4star

12.5
Callum Wilkie

44

Callum Wilkie

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

221.3

3star

D

12.6

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

223.1

3star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

170.0

3star

13
Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

18.9
Jeremy McGovern

20

Jeremy Mcgovern

Age

32

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

238.7

4star

D

12.4

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

183.4

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

7.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

26.6
Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

14.1
Sam Collins 15.8
Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

33.3
Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

11.3

Some surprising results in there

Barrass at 34.4%.

Hawks offering a first and change, plus a large long term contract.

What are they thinking?

 

[OxSaint]

I know mids a the biggest needs, I have always felt we have lacked ball use across the high half forward role. I hope we are looking for a Toby Bedford

14

Toby Bedford

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

type when GWS nabbed him. He was cheap and gave them someone who covered ground quickly and could use the ball by foot. Having both Owens and butler up there really hurts ball movement. Throw in Hammer who isn’t great a finding targets. That’s 3 of the forward 6 that can’t hit targets. Higgo is our best but also our best deep forward.

If we can’t address the midfield with someone we want I hope this is the next area they are looking at.

 

[St Neil]

Sharman gave Laverde an absolute bath and he was the liability during the Bombers last few games, hard, hard pass.

Tomlinson is a much better short term option, I wish we got him when left GWS. He’ll be able to hold down that position until hopefully Arie comes on to play that role full time.

I just don’t see Schoenmaker as a lock down and intercepting third defender.

He is an attacking half back. An offensive weapon with his left peg.

 

[beside the seaside]

I just don’t see Schoenmaker as a lock down and intercepting third defender.

He is an attacking half back. An offensive weapon with his left peg.

He needs to add a defensive side to his game if he's going to make it. Luckily he has superb coaches to help him with that.

 

[St Neil]

Soldo & Tomlinson a need basis. Peatling's age bracket appeals over eg. McCrae

Looks like there a few clubs into Peatling.

He has choices. Some are offering 4 years.

 

[St Neil]

After the R24 big crowd, Gresham might ask to come back.

Salary dump. We’ll take Bombers first.

 

[Spider Eater]

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[St Neil]

I feel this whole situation makes Clarry more gettable than ever and the cost probably going down by the day the longer Petracca is upset.

Yuck

 

[Yawkey way]

Keep an eye out, sometimes the doodies from Queanbeyan float by.

Not because their sewage is connected to the lake, but because people from Queanbeyan aren't toilet trained and they bathe/make doodies in the river.

QBN sucks.

Soweto.

 

[goodie23]

I just don’t see Schoenmaker as a lock down and intercepting third defender.

He is an attacking half back. An offensive weapon with his left peg.

When I spoke to Schoey at a club function a month ago he said Ross is getting him to play more on smalls than talls - he's not seen as a third tall internally

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The club will be asking the question of every cheap, key defensive option.

We will need someone mature on the list as a hypothetical Battle replacement and we won't want to pay a lot for it.

I agree. If you are planning for the future you can't rely on your "Hugh Goddard" making it. We saw what happens when you do.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Dude’s working on his fitness levels in the off season

That just works on so many levels.

 

[Yawkey way]

Sounds like he’s under lots of pressure to head home. I think people are thinking that taking control of the situation instead of having him with all the bargaining power might be better for everyone

If so let them come to us with an offer we can’t refuse, they should have some nice picks after trading out a few.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Defensive 1v1 loss % 2024

Josh Battle 18.8
Jayden Laverde 35.7
Adam Tomlinson 17.6

Others (out of interest)

Dougal Howard 16.7
Steven May 13.5
Tom mccartin 20.6
Tom Barass 34.4
Sam Dekoning 30.3
Noah Balta 12.5
Callum Wilkie 13
Sam Taylor 18.9
Jeremy McGovern 26.6
Harris Andrews 14.1
Sam Collins 15.8
Ben McKay 33.3
Jacob Weitering 11.3

Some surprising results in there

Pretty hard for any defender if you play with Essendon. Zero defensive structure.

I have no doubts Laverde would become a better defender in our team.

 

[beside the seaside]

Battle was underrated. He’ll be hard to cover. Even when Richo was coaching I remember him going down back in an inter club match and he was playing intercept back. Was best on ground by heaps. If we have a better midfield hopefully the loss is offset by less ball coming in fast.

He's about to get paid around 900k a year, don't think he's underrated. Our fans loved him too.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

If we get a free agent like Tomlinson, we need to clear it with the AFL first , that it doesn't affect the Battle compensation even a tiny bit.

 

[jumperfan]

If we get a free agent like Tomlinson, we need to clear it with the AFL first , that it doesn't affect the Battle compensation even a tiny bit.

Can we just give Melbourne next year's fourth rounder to avoid the issue entirely?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Can we just give Melbourne next year's fourth rounder to avoid the issue entirely?

I can't see that there is a rule against trading a free agent.

 

[Saints43]

Josh has zero obligation to us to maximize our compo, played his heart out for 7 years getting ****ed about for the first 4-5 positionally and from many accounts was dangled at the start of the year.

Didn't the club put a lucrative, long term contract in front of him early in the season?

Low level dangling Saints.