Training 2024 training updates.

[lenny20]

I don't despise the idea of Frampton playing a defensive forward role on a creative aerial threat like May, a la Harris Andrews

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Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

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D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

last year.

What I did despise was last week's idea of having Frampton play a defensive forward role on... well, nobody in particular... while a 208cm key forward was opposed to a 195cm rookie down the other end. Given the Dees aren't flush for 208cm forwards, there's less of a risk of that this week.

It basically comes down to whether we want to drop Dean, shift Frampton back, and roll out a KPF team containing some combo of Reef, Johnson, Kreuger and WHE... or retain Dean, and roll with a slightly bigger KPF combo which includes Framps up front.

That's probably a 50-50 call. What I will say, is that if we roll with both Frampton and Kreuger up front, we'll at least have more height, weight and power in those posts than we've had since early 2023. Maybe that counts for something?

 

[Mollythedolly]

I know.
No reason they cant have Kreugs doing part time ruck work. And swap Frampton back and drop dean

Van Rooyen likely back this week so we may still need Dean, depending on who they omit to include him.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I don't despise the idea of Frampton playing a defensive forward role on a creative aerial threat like May, a la Harris Andrews last year.

What I did despise was last week's idea of having Frampton play a defensive forward role on... well, nobody in particular... while a 208cm key forward was opposed to a 195cm rookie down the other end. Given the Dees aren't flush for 208cm forwards, there's less of a risk of that this week.

It basically comes down to whether we want to drop Dean, shift Frampton back, and roll out a KPF team containing some combo of Reef, Johnson, Kreuger and WHE... or retain Dean, and roll with a slightly bigger KPF combo which includes Framps up front.

That's probably a 50-50 call. What I will say, is that if we roll with both Frampton and Kreuger up front, we'll at least have more height, weight and power in those posts than we've had since early 2023. Maybe that counts for something?

I doubt Frampton was playing a defensive forward role against the Doggies. He played forward because of the 2nd ruck role.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I don't despise the idea of Frampton playing a defensive forward role on a creative aerial threat like May, a la Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

last year.

What I did despise was last week's idea of having Frampton play a defensive forward role on... well, nobody in particular... while a 208cm key forward was opposed to a 195cm rookie down the other end. Given the Dees aren't flush for 208cm forwards, there's less of a risk of that this week.

It basically comes down to whether we want to drop Dean, shift Frampton back, and roll out a KPF team containing some combo of Reef, Johnson, Kreuger and WHE... or retain Dean, and roll with a slightly bigger KPF combo which includes Framps up front.

That's probably a 50-50 call. What I will say, is that if we roll with both Frampton and Kreuger up front, we'll at least have more height, weight and power in those posts than we've had since early 2023. Maybe that counts for something?

Yep, like you say, if it’s solely to occupy May…

I don’t want us completely uprooting our defence just to accommodate Dean though. Gotta win, first and foremost.

 

[sr36]

Van Rooyen likely back this week so we may still need Dean, depending on who they omit to include him.

I'd go with Moore, Howe and Bruzzy. I still don't think we need Dean.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I'd go with Moore, Howe and Bruzzy. I still don't think we need Dean.

Against Freo they had Petty and Turner (although he seems more a McInnes type than a KPF) as their tall forwards. I’d assume Turner will make way for Van Rooyen. Logically 2 tall defenders should adequately cover that with Howe taking Fritsch. The only question is whether that’s Moore and Dean or Moore and Frampton. I think Frampton will be preferred as the 2nd ruck so will play forward leaving Moore and Dean.

 

[sr36]

Against Freo they had Petty and Turner (although he seems more a McInnes type than a KPF) as their tall forwards. I’d assume Turner will make way for Van Rooyen. Logically 2 tall defenders should adequately cover that with Howe taking Fritsch. The only question is whether that’s Moore and Dean or Moore and Frampton. I think Frampton will be preferred as the 2nd ruck so will play forward leaving Moore and Dean.

Howe has played second tall a heap and Bruzzy has played third tall a heap, so I don't think that's the only question - as Moore and Howe with Bruzzy is definitely also an option. It's how I'm expecting them to go.

 

[ksardog]

Thanks Jen.

Sidey on the wing as I suggested.
Frampton forward though is;

they are going to bash us over the head with this garbage
Howe or Moore are the far better options as a stop gap forward, you know, players actually capable of kicking some goals

 

[Mollythedolly]

Howe has played second tall a heap and Bruzzy has played third tall a heap, so I don't think that's the only question - as Moore and Howe with Bruzzy is definitely also an option. It's how I'm expecting them to go.

Time will tell.

 

[LuckyLee]

All evidence to date says that Frampton is an excellent defender, serviceable support ruck and a terrible forward. The experiment should be over by now.

With so many outs, we really need to be playing as many players as possible in their most impactful roles.

I reckon the most logical, personnel-optimising set-up would have us bringing in all of Kreuger, McInnes and Hoskin-Elliott to play up forward. Push Frampton back into defence, at Dean’s expense. Kreuger to pinch-hit in the ruck when Cameron needs a rest.


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[Jen2310]

Tomorrow’s session is more telling


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[Kes1984]

Tomorrow’s session is more telling


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What time is it? I can never go to the weekday sessions because of work so I want to try to get along and watch this one.

 

[Jen2310]

What time is it? I can never go to the weekday sessions because of work so I want to try to get along and watch this one.

9:30-11am


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[Apex36]

Reef for the white and Kreug for the black team.
Eyre took a fair few marks up forward, kicked a goal, but passed some off closer to goal.

Not sure the black and white tops are a massive indicator at the moment given how small the match sim teams are with all our outs

 

[Jen2310]

Only these players partook in the full session.

Lippa.
IQ
Maynard
Josh D
Shultz
Noble
DC
Kreuger
Frampton
Macrae
Sidey
Hill
Crisp
Bytel
Moore
Beau
WHE
Sullivan
Nick D
HH
Markov
Howe
Johnson
Dean


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[stormskye]

Only these players partook in the full session.

Lippa.
IQ
Maynard
Josh D
Shultz
Noble
DC
Kreuger
Frampton
Macrae
Sidey
Hill
Crisp
Bytel
Moore
Beau
WHE
Sullivan
Nick D
HH
Markov
Howe
Johnson
Dean


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No reef . Krueger surely playing then.

 

[sr36]

Only these players partook in the full session.

Lippa.
IQ
Maynard
Josh D
Shultz
Noble
DC
Kreuger
Frampton
Macrae
Sidey
Hill
Crisp
Bytel
Moore
Beau
WHE
Sullivan
Nick D
HH
Markov
Howe
Johnson
Dean


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So no Reef.

 

[sr36]

No reef . Krueger surely playing then.

I'm tipping Krueger and WHE playing as talls, with Frampton playing the Cox role.

 

[Jen2310]

Frampton trained in defence
Krueger took the 2nd ruck forward role


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[danielnajdek]

So Reef is now 3 weeks out with concussion.

 

[memoryofmchale]

I'm tipping Krueger and WHE playing as talls, with Frampton playing the Cox role.

If Kreuger is playing, he'll be in the Cox role.

Cameorn-Kreuger ruck pairing.

 

[sr36]

So Reef is now 3 weeks out with concussion.

Might just be playing 2s

 

[memoryofmchale]

So Reef is now 3 weeks out with concussion.

He could be playing VFL tomorrow and therefore, they don't want to have him training.

Allan wasn't there and neither was Parker.

 

[Jen2310]

Or he could be sick. We don’t know why he wasn’t training

Allan and TJ trained with the squad initially then went inside


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[Apples]

I just watched the press conference and McRae spoke about Reef kicking a few goals and taking marks. I'm confused.