USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Saint]

estonia too

Estonia is part of NATO and EU. Europe can easily defeat Russia without the US's help. Russia can't even defeat Ukraine.

 

[stefcep]

but everyone's a big mac

I genuinely lol'ed. Deserves more credit.

 

[stefcep]

Who was it that held back Obama's Supreme Court nomination, then rushed through their own nominations in record time? Wouldn't have been Trump's Republican's would it?

The Dems have done worse when it comes to judicial nominations. In fact they broke decorum.

 

[Gethelred]

Yeah but the Dems are the only party that the far left would vote for in the US anyway that’s their only choice.

This isn't untrue. Their system sucks.

 

[Satan]

Estonia is part of NATO and EU. Europe can easily defeat Russia without the US's help. Russia can't even defeat Ukraine.

will nato step in? yes i an aware of the clause

 

[Happy Mastenator]

'Rabid right wingers'
In your opinion is there anyone on the right who is not either rabid or far right? Can you clarify who that might be?

And why are Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh rabid right wingers?

Please no X screen shots as examples.

For starters

Choosing someone that aligns with your ideology is fine. Perjuring yourself in confirmation hearings probably isn't.

Kavanagh has been accused by multiple people of sexual assault, and Trump directed the FBI not to investigate fully despite numerous tips.

Trump administration protected Brett Kavanaugh from full FBI investigation

Inquiry by Sheldon Whitehouse found White House and FBI ‘misled’ about inquiry into supreme court nominee

www.theguardian.com

He was also an active GOP partisan for the start of his career.

Coney Barret had 3 years experience as a judge, and was rushed through against precedent.

It's not just roe v wade, they have also pulled apart the power of the government agencies to make rules relating to their expertise.

 

[Saint]

will nato step in? yes i an aware of the clause

They won't trust Trump to do the right thing.

That's the beauty of this foreign policy for the rest of the world, they can stop pretending the USA will do the right thing on their behalf.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

As does Biden and every Democrat POTUS going forward.

If you believe that then i've got a bridge to sell you. The Supreme Court left themselves wiggle room to decide what is immune, and they aren't granting it to Dem Presidents.

 

[Saint Shags]

Got no idea what you’re banging on about or what point you are trying to make to be honest. I posted a lot in a short timeframe because it was about a specific topic that I was interested in. And that was days before the result.

You are clearly still upset about the result. Go and take a deep breath.

Why the need to claim I'm upset about a result.

I'm quite well thanks for asking.

I'm pulling you up on the picking out of a particular poster based on the amount of posts they make.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Higher taxes for one. If you look at US, those States with Democrat government have the highest taxes.

Another is the burdens they force upon businesses.

Then there is the issue of law and order, softer on crime.

Not to mention quotas that are filled on the basis of ideology rather than the qualities of the applicants.

Blue states have a higher quality of living, and subsidise the red states to a massive degree.

AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.

apnews.com

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The Dems have done worse when it comes to judicial nominations. In fact they broke decorum.

****en lol.

 

[Satan]

For starters


Kavanagh has been accused by multiple people of sexual assault, and Trump directed the FBI not to investigate fully despite numerous tips.

Trump administration protected Brett Kavanaugh from full FBI investigation

Inquiry by Sheldon Whitehouse found White House and FBI ‘misled’ about inquiry into supreme court nominee

www.theguardian.com

He was also an active GOP partisan for the start of his career.

Coney Barret had 3 years experience as a judge, and was rushed through against precedent.

It's not just roe v wade, they have also pulled apart the power of the government agencies to make rules relating to their expertise.

when thomas and or alito retire , cannon will be elevated with 5 mins of experience

 

[adogsfan5]

Why the need to claim I'm upset about a result.

I'm quite well thanks for asking.

I'm pulling you up on the picking out of a particular poster based on the amount of posts they make.

Which was a friendly tongue in cheek joke. I’ve already stated that, and you’re refusing to accept it for some reason. Weird.
If you had of let him speak for himself, we’d be closer to the 1,000 posts.

 

[MPMonkeys]

For starters


Kavanagh has been accused by multiple people of sexual assault, and Trump directed the FBI not to investigate fully despite numerous tips.

Trump administration protected Brett Kavanaugh from full FBI investigation

Inquiry by Sheldon Whitehouse found White House and FBI ‘misled’ about inquiry into supreme court nominee

www.theguardian.com

He was also an active GOP partisan for the start of his career.

Coney Barret had 3 years experience as a judge, and was rushed through against precedent.

It's not just roe v wade, they have also pulled apart the power of the government agencies to make rules relating to their expertise.

Is being accused of sexual assault only a right wing thing?
And what do you mean by an 'active partisan'? Can you be an inactive partisan or an active non-partisan or an inactive non-partisan?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

will nato step in? yes i an aware of the clause

If NATO step in to assist a country not part of their treaty could trigger a wider war.

its all a bit of a crock of shit anyway.

Russia is a NATO "Partnership for Peace" country..............Ukraine is a "Enhanced opportunity Partner" yet they are at war.

Just dumb bureaucracy

 

[Happy Mastenator]

when thomas and or alito retire , cannon will be elevated with 5 mins of experience

Well those 5 minutes were used to delay and obstruct the case against Trump until after the election, which she successfully did.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Is being accused of sexual assault only a right wing thing?
And what do you mean by an 'active partisan'? Can you be an inactive partisan or an active non-partisan or an inactive non-partisan?

The accusation of sexual assault in of itself wasn't the major issue as it was just an accusation, it was the blocking of any investigation into it by the Trump Whitehouse.

Having said that only two supreme court justices have had credible claims of sexual harassment/assault against them, both of them are very right wing.

In terms of him being an active partisan, he was heavily involved in working with the GOP, including on the Starr Report, that's cool, its his prerogative, but not sure that then means you can be an impartial judge.

 

[MPMonkeys]

The accusation of sexual assault in of itself wasn't the major issue as it was just an accusation, it was the blocking of any investigation into it by the Trump Whitehouse.

Having said that only two supreme court justices have had credible claims of sexual harassment/assault against them, both of them are very right wing.

In terms of him being an active partisan, he was heavily involved in working with the GOP, including on the Starr Report, that's cool, its his prerogative, but not sure that then means you can be an impartial judge.

All judges have biases - they are human beings, not robots.
And again - what is the difference between being 'very right wing' and plain ordinary 'right wing'?

 

[Blue1980]

The Democrats have let people with this kind of thinking run its party strategy for too long. They need an entire overhaul and to stop letting people fail upwards.

That’s just awful, I really wish it was a parody

 

[Happy Mastenator]

All judges have biases - they are human beings, not robots.
And again - what is the difference between being 'very right wing' and plain ordinary 'right wing'?

Right wing make decisions with a slant, very right wing jump into overturning long standing precedence to push ideological points.

 

[Blue1980]

To describe the Democrats as a left wing party is to be in open defiance of reality.

The republicans, murdoch media and online platforms have expertly got people riled up about culture war issues, most largely have nothing to do with the Democratic Party and it’s usually them taking some fringe issue and making it seem huge.

Then the people who buy into it will vote against their best economic interests taking on this imaginary woke bogeyman.

 

[Blue1980]

I mean, subjectivity is absolutely a thing. The problem I have is that depicting the Democrats as left wing would require them to do something or have a policy that is left wing.

Obamacare, probably, but what else about the Dems is left wing at all?

Not wanting to kill trans people or deport all illegal immigrants?

 

[Gethelred]

The republicans, murdoch media and online platforms have expertly got people riled up about culture war issues, most largely have nothing to do with the Democratic Party and it’s usually them taking some fringe issue and making it seem huge.

Then the people who buy into it will vote against their best economic interests taking on this imaginary woke bogeyman.

Hmmm...

I don't know. stefcep's post above provided a few ways the Dems can be at least depicted as a left wing option over the republicans, and while it shouldn't be groundbreaking that being pro-regulation or taxes is left wing, it serves at least to depict them as a centre-left.

 

[Blue1980]

Far left. It's always the extremes that cause the problems and make the loudest noise.

They are nowhere near proximity to power in the US.

 

[Blue1980]

Yeah but the Dems are the only party that the far left would vote for in the US anyway that’s their only choice.

Looks like many decided to not make that choice