USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[happy_eagle]

This is probably the biggest concern of the NYC rally. Trump has something planned with Mike Johnson speaker of the house.

Remember that if for whatever reason the electoral college votes cannot be confirmed, the house (which is currently a Republican majority) determines the next President. Is Trump going to have enough election denying electors to prevent Harris getting to 270?

 

[Present Not Past]

Would be interesting if he wins and actually deports 2 million.
The eyes of many countries would be interested on the effect on the US.

He won’t deport a single person.
When questioned on it he will blame the Democrats.
He did that when he didn’t build his wall.

 

[_Cerberus_]

The "subuman's" that were transported to the camps (and those killed in them) were Communists, Socialists, those with other anti Nazi belefs, Homosexuals, Romany, Freemasons, those suffering psychiatric illness or mental disability, Poles, Russians, Jews, and Jehovah Witnesses and any dissidents from Occupied counties.

THIS, in a big way. People keep forgetting that the holocaust and Nazism wasn't just about the Jewish people. Or try and make it just about the Jewish people.

As a result, all of those people you mentioned here, are routinely forgotten as being victims to the genocide and Nazi ideology as well. In fact 75 million people in total died in WW2. There were just as many people exterminated from other groups, as there were with Jewish people.

You only have to look at today's Nazi groups, even here in Aus. They don't just dislike Jewish people, they hate gays, migrants, black people. Trumps rally today, saw at least one speaker express anti migrant rhetoric, anti black, anti Hispanic, homophobic comments etc. To say it doesn't come close to Nazism because it wasn't anti Jewish, just shows how out of touch some people are with reality.

 

[campbell]

This is probably the biggest concern of the NYC rally. Trump has something planned with Mike Johnson speaker of the house.

Remember that if for whatever reason the electoral college votes cannot be confirmed, the house (which is currently a Republican majority) determines the next President. Is Trump going to have enough election denying electors to prevent Harris getting to 270?

What if, she get 350 votes.

Thats 80 more than needed.

They cant deny that big a win.....

 

[Baldur]

He won’t deport a single person.
When questioned on it he will blame the Democrats.
He did that when he didn’t build his wall.

Deport? Never, his mates want the cheap labour.

But arrest, put in camps and force them to work without pay.

 

[happy_eagle]

What if, she get 350 votes.

Thats 80 more than needed.

They cant deny that big a win.....

Does every state need to be certified for it to count, or is it just as soon as someone gets 270 ?

i.e Kamala could get 270, but if Trump messes with a particular state large enough whereby it cannot be certified, would that be enough to kick it to the house?

 

[Festerz]

Just drop fk name

True story. Last time I went to the US was during the Donald's time as President and I got the dreaded SSSS code on my Qantas boarding pass - first time ever of all my trips over there.

These things are not random, especially for a nobody like me.

Around the same time as I joined BF as it happened.....(and the band plays Hail to the Chief when the President walks in )

 

[Present Not Past]

Deport? Never, his mates want the cheap labour.

But arrest, put in camps and force them to work without pay.

He won’t do that either.
The things he will do if he gets back into office is:
Sack Jack Smith.
Weaponise the AG to kill the Federal charges against him.
Pass his tax cuts.
Golf.

 

[NSWCROW]

Well, IF that rally was the " turning point " that delivers Harris a win, then the conservatives can thank their hubris.

Truly their Achillies heel.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

He won’t deport a single person.
When questioned on it he will blame the Democrats.
He did that when he didn’t build his wall.

He talks up a big game but delivers SFA - that alone should disqualify him from being POTUS again.
The other fear is that the guardrails have been removed and his handlers will deliver on things like Project 2025 - another reason for him being kicked to the kerb.....................

 

[OneGreatClub]

He won’t do that either.
The things he will do if he gets back into office is:
Sack Jack Smith.
Weaponise the AG to kill the Federal charges against him.
Pass his tax cuts.
Golf.

While the Christian Nationalists focus on the other stuff

 

[Cyber_punk]

This is probably the biggest concern of the NYC rally. Trump has something planned with Mike Johnson speaker of the house.

Remember that if for whatever reason the electoral college votes cannot be confirmed, the house (which is currently a Republican majority) determines the next President. Is Trump going to have enough election denying electors to prevent Harris getting to 270?

As usual, just imagine the reaction from the other side if a dem said this.

 

[Present Not Past]

While the Christian Nationalists focus on the other stuff

And Trump enjoys a thumping economy.
The economy will go from being on the brink of depression, to oh happy days.

 

[blackshadow]

Who cares what some idiot on X has posted.

I believe Dr Phil was one of the speakers at the NYC fascist rally.

 

[Blue1980]

Hitler wrote of hanging every Jew in Munich as early as 1924.

So when Trump stands in front of signs saying "Mass Deportation Now", I don't think we should be surprised if he does it.

According to our Trump MAGA supporting rocket surgeons here, if it didn’t happen in his first term all is ok.

Also like Hitler in 1924, Trump learnt his lesson in 2020 and will follow the rule of law and respect democracy from now on……

 

[Blue1980]

Protest march v Storming the Capitol.
Same thing aren't they?

/s

Like Hilary 2016 conceding on the night then bitching about meddling after is the same as Trump doing 3 months of dodgy schemes including fake electors and inciting a riot to overturn the result.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Careful with this analogy. We had a (dumb, dumb, dumb) poster in the NMFC politics thread today say that all American political rallies are Nazi rallies, because they all use a central podium and lighting and those sorts of things.

(I wish I was making this up).

That the same one who was equating Ukraine to nazis? Who got offended when I said even if they were nazis they have the right to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression… got real stroppy with me

 

[Nikita Blue]

What Nazi ideaology are you referring to?
Trump is very much pro Israel.

I think people have forgotten that Nazism primarily called for the eradication of the Jews. Now the word Nazi seems to be a catch all for anything that is not Leftist. It completely makes the term next to useless and is an insult to the Jewish peoples to be honest.

Open a history book please.

 

[Blue1980]

I hope you are right. But I have read some compelling stuff about Trump being Hitler and democracy ending. I have the bunker stocked just in case.

With a bit of luck he may only be as bad as Viktor Orban

 

[Blue1980]

She should have kept calling Trump a weirdo. That word got under his skin more than anything and he probably would have imploded (moreso). No idea why the dems abandoned it

I blame Biden campaign people, who are all about civility “they go low we go high” BS

 

[blackshadow]

Open a history book please.

Before Trump burns them.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Anyone to the right of the Greens is now far right or a Nazi on this forum.

It’s laughable.

 

[_Cerberus_]

That the same one who was equating Ukraine to nazis? Who got offended when I said even if they were nazis they have the right to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression… got real stroppy with me

Calling Ukraine Nazis was just Russian propaganda to try and justify their invasion. But like usual, people like the one you mentioned, lap it up like the sheep that they are. Every single country has elements of fascist groups. Russia has a lot of them themselves. In fact, I have seen heaps of murders and bashing of gays and migrants on shock sites originating from Russia.

Loads worse than most European countries, and definitely much worse than Ukraine. So it was a bit rich of them to try and play that card. Ukraine indeed has every right to defend itself. There was zero justification for it. Labeling the whole country Nazis, is just bottom of the barrel scrapping s**t to try and convince yourself the invasion was justified.

 

[Chadwiko]

That the same one who was equating Ukraine to nazis? Who got offended when I said even if they were nazis they have the right to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression… got real stroppy with me

Probably, yup.

The NMFC thread is open to oppo supporters. You're all welcome to come contribute

 

[Chadwiko]

There was zero justification for it. Labeling the whole country Nazis, is just bottom of the barrel scrapping s**t to try and convince yourself the invasion was justified.

But Ukraine IS a Nazi country, which is why they democratically elected a Jewish president!

Hang on wait...