USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

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Yeah, this was the Democrats trying to run a post-woke election.

They abandoned class politics long ago and embraced identity politics as their key point of ideological organising. Some conservative Democrats are saying that it’s time to dump that but they can’t articulate for what, because they clearly don’t want to move back to class politics (as demonstrated by Sanders’ campaigns for the presidency).
That's because the democrats simply aren't there to win elections or to do anything. They're there to provide a release valve for the upper classes whenever the lower classes get antsy; they get in whenever the republicans get a bit whiffy, try and blind people with rhetoric while they tinker at the margins.

The democrats are some of the wealthiest people in Congress. They're not interested in worker's rights, they're as distant from workers as a feudal lord ever was.
 
Oh another one that doesnt know the difference between liable and guilty.

For those playing at home this is what liable looks like.


I thought Rachel was packing her bags in readiness to be sent to a concentration camp :think:
 

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Maybe if your name is Rita pahani. Apart from that na I think it’s what I said
Woke came from black feminists who faced a feminist movement that ignored issues that didn't specifically impact white feminists.

White feminists were progressive, but they were unaware of, or indifferent to, how being female and black could be a different experience and create different obstacles than female and white.

They needed to be aware of, be awake to, the different experiences and different issues of other groups.

That is what woke is, aware of the fact other people can have a perspective and challenges and obstacles that differ from yours.

Now, advocating or supporting marginalised groups makes you deeply unpopular in certain circles, if it didn't, they wouldn't be marginalised.

So, woke amongst these people became a pejorative, a snide put down of people who 'care'.

When arguing on other issues, such as the environment, safety regulations, healthcare, climate, non of which have the slightest thing to do with 'woke', they lumped it together under the term they were already using as an insult, confident none of their moron followers knew the difference, and that leads us to you.

The number of online debates on topics like climate change where the counter argument boils down to 'WOKE, your WOKE'.



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Let's see if I have it summed up so far.

A woman has testified before the house that Gaetz had sex with her when she was a minor, which is why he resigned, so they don't have authority over him.
Appointed AG.

Hegseth while serving as a National Guardsman, was one of 12 removed from a security detail as a security risk due to ties with violent right wing extremism.
Now head of defense.

A billionaire has been placed in charge of a shadowy group whose remit parallels the remit of the Gestapo.

The head of National security is someone who has been noted to have taken Russia's side in every single policy debate ever, and is thought to be, at best, a Putin fan, and at worst....

The head of the most expensive and least efficient and most inequitable healthcare system on the planet, is someone who doesn't believe in the most cost efficient and effective health care measure of all time, vaccines.

The laughably titled, never had a war president has appointed the most hawkish, let's have a war cabinet in a generation.


I'm hoping the reason I haven't heard much bad about the others is because they are reasonable, and not, they are bad, but choices like Gaetz are so terrible, they look ok in comparison.

It had been openly stated by Maga, that next time, the only criteria for getting a post would be a willingness to do whatever Trump wanted. So I was pretty confident Trump's next presidency would be significantly worse than the first, but I hoped I was being unduly pessimistic, but I may not have been pessimistic enough.

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Not true, but you keep doing you.
Would you defend Biden if he was found liable for rape or is this just a Trump thing?

I certainly wouldn't be defending anybody.

It should be simple for you Trump fans- just admit that he was found liable of rape and that you still support him.
 

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