USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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[Blue1980]

Yes, the US and NATO over a decade created the conditions where Putin was goaded into invading Ukraine.
If you are interested in finding out how and why, I can point you in the right direction to find out.

You can, but I dislike US foreign policy as much as anyone but I still think it was only Putin who made Putin do what he did.

One can think the US cause terrible things while also acknowledging Russia do as well. They aren’t contradicting arguments.

He got away with Georgia and Crimea previously so just expected to waltz into Ukraine.

 

[bourbons]

False. Prior to being selected as VP candidate, Timmy and Shapiro shared the same view of Israel and the war in Gaza.

Citation needed.

There is no need to run interference for anti semitic behaviour m8. I'll let a lot of things by you slide, but will always call out bigotry!

Like you had any idea Shapiro was even jewish, actually scratch that, that he even existed before your right wing bubble provided the appropriate talking points

But sure m8, a jewish candidate not being selected for literally any position = antisemitism. Never knew you were so woke!

 

[Blue1980]

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Tim Waltz is more popular than Taylor Swift.

Also note ideas about ‘anti-capitalist’ sentiment in the US are not backed by any data. +26 vs -37

The masses have been brainwashed to think capitalism = democracy and socialism = dictatorship.

 

[Blue1980]

Fire, stop being stupid, you're just baiting people.

Walz is everything FK pretends he wants from the left.

 

[Borough Blood]

Lying about his experience with IVF.

Is this the lie that he actually used IUI and not IVF?

 

[FireKrakouer]

I must admit, this clip was quite moving... my favourite part is at about 1:45 when he explains why he left the Reform party. Inspiring!

 

[bourbons]

Is this the lie that he actually used IUI and not IVF?

Big if true, impeach I reckon.

These are the type of issues FK reckons Walz will struggle with in the debate for anyone still paying attention (c'arn its good for a laugh at least)

 

[bourbons]

I must admit, this clip was quite moving... my favourite part is at about 1:45 when he explains why he left the Reform party. Inspiring!

This is where I post support from a jewish person to prove Harris isn't anti-semitic yeah?

**** this is easy

 

[FruitTingles]

Musk is such a dullard

 

[jatz14]

The rise of Hitler in 1933 wasnt about Stalinist Communists not getting out to vote - it was a direct result of the policies of the Allies and the effect reparations had on the German people

The rise in inflation, the disenfranchisement of the people in the Weimar Republic and the rise of a charismatic speaker who blamed the Jews and the current regime - where have I heard this before? - and managed to use peoples disaffection to gain sheeple

I see strong similarities in the Rise of Hitler and the Rise of Trump - even down to the language

Your comparing Germany under the Weimar republic to the US under Obama?

Interest rates, not high. Unemployment, not high.

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[GreyCrow]

Your comparing Germany under the Weimar republic to the US under Obama?

Interest rates, not high. Unemployment, not high.

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No. Pies is though. I am arguing that Drumpf is escalating the rhetoric and language in similar ways to Hitler

I also add in further posts why I think this

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Hitlers original plan was to deport the Jews, then they came up with another, final solution.

So deporting 20 million immigrants how can it be done? Going to have immigrant hunters terrorising people for hiding them in a basement? Then realise it’s all too hard to deport so come up with their own “final” solution?

Hitler's problem was there was no country to deport the Jews to.
He warned the English and Americans if you don't want them I will handle the problem.

America has countries to deport illegal immigrants to.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Musk is such a dullard

That's a generous description. He's a Trump-simping f***wit.

Many of us suspected he was a f***wit before he took over twitter, and in the time since, he has proven it beyond doubt.

 

[happy_eagle]

RCP still has Harris winning the states she needs for 270.

 

[Mick F]

Really starting to look like that, isn't it?

Never been ‘populism’. Simply ‘me-ism’.

Bannon, the Trump whisperer, was the strategist. Trump wouldn’t know a business plan if it sat next to him at breakfast.

 

[FruitTingles]

That's a generous description. He's a Trump-simping f***wit.

Many of us suspected he was a f***wit before he took over twitter, and in the time since, he has proven it beyond doubt.

I assumed he must be smart because of Tesla/Space X, but I don’t think so anymore. He’s just a great entrepreneur but shallow person.

I guess it’s because he’s super busy but I’ve never even seen him flesh out a thought that wasn’t just a GOP talking point fed to him by mass media. Intelligent people are usually able to synthesise information but it’s just ‘wow’ and reposts of far-right nonsense.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

False. Prior to being selected as VP candidate, Timmy and Shapiro shared the same view of Israel and the war in Gaza.

There is no need to run interference for anti semitic behaviour m8. I'll let a lot of things by you slide, but will always call out bigotry!

Trump was going to offer them a monorail... but that's more of a Shelbyville idea.

Roughly how many times have you driven drunk, Mr Gumble?

 

[bourbons]

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RCP still has Harris winning the states she needs for 270.

Margins way too thin to trust.

Biden under-performed a lot swing state polls last time round ie. had polling leads of 4 or 5%, ended up winning by 1ish%. Trump still favourite for mine despite the slim lead most bookies have Harris in.

 

[jatz14]

Not interested in Germany, this thread is about Harris/Trump Presidential election.

The following steps must be completed for an amendment proposed by Congress to be added to the United States Constitution.

Step 1. Passage by Congress. Proposed amendment language must be approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses.

Step 2. Notification of the states. The national archivist sends notification and materials to the governor of each state.

Step 3. Ratification by three-fourths of the states. Ratification of the amendment language adopted by Congress is an up-or-down vote in each legislative chamber. A state legislature cannot change the language. If it does, its ratification is invalid. A governor’s signature on the ratification bill or resolution is not necessary.

More than 11,000 amendments to the Constitution of the United States have been proposed, but only 27 have been ratified. The first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of Rights, were ratified in 1791

A constitution is only meaningful in a country where the government sees itself bound by it, and where the judiciary is both independent and has authority.

Undermine those things and the constitution becomes a bit of paper.

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[Maggie5]

You make it sound like they need to change the constitution to do whatever they want? They have a supreme court that will rubber stamp whatever they want, constitution be damned. Then what happens?

Well here is hoping that Harris gets in and increases SCJ and or limits terms.

 

[jatz14]

I assumed he must be smart because of Tesla/Space X, but I don’t think so anymore. He’s just a great entrepreneur but shallow person.

I guess it’s because he’s super busy but I’ve never even seen him flesh out a thought that wasn’t just a GOP talking point fed to him by mass media. Intelligent people are usually able to synthesise information but it’s just ‘wow’ and reposts of far-right nonsense.

Making one of the worst deals of all time would indicate he isn't much of an entrepreneur.

Most companies he runs seem to have full time staff who's job it is to stop him doing stupid things.

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[magpie_marty]

Pot Kettle Black,
"At a rally Monday in Pennsylvania, the former president said for at least the fourth time that criticizing judges and justices either is or should be illegal. And for what may be the first time, he directly said people who do so should go to jail,"

Donald has never criticized judges?

 

[magpie_marty]

Trumps so called trip to do a rally in Springfield Ohio has been cancelled.
Republican Governor Mike De Wine urged him not to visit and inflame more trouble re his comments and Vance with people eating dog's and cat's.

 

[campbell]

Trumps so called trip to do a rally in Springfield Ohio has been cancelled.
Republican Governor Mike De Wine urged him not to visit and inflame more trouble re his comments and Vance with people eating dog's and cat's.

He and Vance face criminal charges.

Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield hoax

An Ohio law allowing citizens to file criminal charges is being used to target former President Donald Trump and Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) over their comments about Haitians in Springfield.According to Fox 8, the Haitian Bridge Alliance filed criminal charges against the two Republican candidates...

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Hope they stick....They both should be in jail for lying and inciting violence.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Pot Kettle Black,
"At a rally Monday in Pennsylvania, the former president said for at least the fourth time that criticizing judges and justices either is or should be illegal. And for what may be the first time, he directly said people who do so should go to jail,"

Donald has never criticized judges?

Can you pls link your source and paste the full quote here m8?