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Translation... Enrolled in an Arts degree and attended just enough classes to be given a PassNot at all actually, i've been following politics my whole life and have a degree in it. I was just making the point that covid turned politics into something we couldn't reasonably comprehend before and now you all act like its normal.
I'm sorry, but the only person who has a chance of beating Trump this cycle, is Biden.
And yes, we can all gather around each other and burn him at the stake, constantly provided by the astroturfers.
We can keep insisting that literally anyone else would win, while ignoring the insane turn out Trump has had and the even more extreme turn out to offset it.
Trump is 90% guaranteed to win this next election, regardless of opposition. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial.
So we can all help the MAGAts by repeating their attacks on minor specifics while ignoring the unfathomably positive impact Biden's administration has had on not just the US, but the world.
Or we can set a minimum standard for both parties and candidates, and attack whoever falls under the standard equally. Rather than showing how virtuous we are by holding one to a standard that's impossible to the other.
Stop letting the narrative control you.
Start controlling the narrative.
Does anyone here support trump?
Off topic. But do you still value Jimmy Dore's opinion?The MSNBC/CNN and establishment journalism cover up of Biden's obvious mental decline is a scandal. They all knew.
First one.Are you asking a general question if anyone on this forum supports Trump?
Or if any Australian resident is going to vote for Trump?
I'm sorry, but former Republican Joe Scarborough talking to Biden via a shoe, with the first question comparing him to Trump's 2020 push for insurrection is supporting my point.
Stop letting the narrative control you.
Start controlling the narrative.
First one.
Do you mean implicitly or explicitly?
Do you mean genuine or disingenuous?
Because if there is a choice between red berries and blue berries, and one person only ever points out that we need to eat, but that the red berries are dangerous. That's implicitly supporting the blue berries.
The same as someone who only ever posts anti-Democrat, while defending Trump. Even if they state that they don't support Trump.
Who would people nominate over Biden?
And don't just say "anyone", I genuinaley want a name.
Off topic. But do you still value Jimmy Dore's opinion?
Not at all actually, i've been following politics my whole life and have a degree in it. I was just making the point that covid turned politics into something we couldn't reasonably comprehend before and now you all act like its normal.
I think they’ve missed their opportunity to replace Biden in any rational way.With putting no work into it , off the top of my head
- Kamela Harris
- Gavin Newsom
- Gretchen Whitmer
- JB Pritzker
- Josh Shapiro
There was a short period of time where he was often viewed and cited as a 'centrist'.Why would anyone value Jimmy Dores opinion?
I'm literally stating that the only true opposition to the next Trump
There was a short period of time where he was often viewed and cited as a 'centrist'.
Mostly by other 'centrists'.
Akin to Dave Rubin.
I think they’ve missed their opportunity to replace Biden in any rational way.
They have to go all in now with Biden and Harris. Anything else at this stage looks weak.
Damn the torpedoes and roll old Joe out.
I mean Trump is no spring chicken either.
OK, cool.No one is saying don’t support Biden if it comes down to it v Trump if they don’t like trump.
This is the blue maga fallacy, that we should lie about everything and make believe Biden is going great and will be able to run a campaign to beat trump. As if we don’t then Trump will win.
People who are undecided or not going to vote have eyes and ears, gaslighting them won’t work. Getting a Democrat who can campaign properly can.
If Biden runs, he will get killed in a general election.
There are a minimum of a dozen candidates (anyone who can present and string proper sentences together is a great start).
In an ideal world everyone would see trump for what he is and not vote for him, but back on planet earth that is not the case. To beat him you need to find a better candidate, it’s insulting peoples intelligence for Biden and the Dems to pretend Biden has no cognitive decline and going great when we can all see he isn’t.
If Biden steps down, his replacement will be 'even worse'.I still think they will get him to step down, might take another week or two with more bad polls. Just needs to happen before the August convention.
Otherwise they are just going Thelma
and Louise style off the cliff together.
Also would show the Dems don’t really give a shit about losing the election or believe it really matters.
Desperation imo. Saw the writing on the wall with the polls and went for the hail mary to square things up.How did anyone close to Biden think that having debates was a good idea?
I mean the Trump team kept him away from debates during the primaries.
There won't be a 2nd one, Trump isn't turning up under any circumstances. Has already said he won't put Joe through it or similar (real reason is there is no upside for him, he's already in front whereas for Biden at least hypothetically the potential is there to make up some ground).Anyway, for the second debate, Biden just has to ignore any questions and just attack Trump for 90 mins.
I’m pretty sure he can at least do that.
I mean there’s so much material to work with.
I used to like him a lot, always had a fairly sizeable blind spot re: all things Trump and the GOP but usually spoke some sense on the topics he did choose to talk about.There was a short period of time where he was often viewed and cited as a 'centrist'.
Mostly by other 'centrists'.
Akin to Dave Rubin.
But here is the problem. Almost anyone is a valid answer. Warren, Newsom, AOC, Buttigieg, M Obama, jon stewart. Almost anyone. Ironically one of the worst options is Harris but even she is slightly better then BIDEN at this point.Who would people nominate over Biden?
And don't just say "anyone", I genuinaley want a name.
Trump never mentions the vaccine he got booed at a rally two years ago.Paragraphs are your friend
Without heading off topic I think the response by the Trump administration in the early days was ok - ie trying not to panic the market - but I also think when reports come out of hospitals being built within weeks come out of China and a 10m city being shut down then a cautious approach was required
Trumps problem - as always - was he wanted to be the smartest person in the room when he wasnt even the smartest object in the room. Good leaders stand back and let the experts talk but that was way too discomforting for an egotistical idiot
The rush for the vaccine was a medical marvel but the advice was poorly managed (imo)
Anyway the initial stages were appropriate and as new info emerges we did different things
So Trump supporting spreader events rallies,events at the white house was a great idea during a pandemic?I'm not saying we still live under restricted freedoms, although I do have substantial concerns regarding the precedent established during covid and that it may be used again. My point is largely that governments, including our own and particularly the US, Biden administration for the purposes of this discussion (although to be fair to the US, they were substantially free-er than us on this point) did something that had never been done before, in substantially limit personal freedom and autonomy on an untargeted, indiscriminate basis in the interests of the supposed 'greater good' and then they lied, or used misinformation, or in the very least overstated concerns to support their political actions. This isn't the place to discuss those things but I think we can all acknowledge now, particularly with Fauci since coming out and admitting us such, that things such as mask mandates and 6-foot social distancing were all made up / not based in evidence, and yet were imposed anyway. The reference here, and what you say is projection, is my (i think valid) concerns that the political class around this world got a sense of - we know what is best and it is our obligation, given that we know best, to implement that even if it means lying or obscuring the truth to get there. Which I think is a scary thought and something I don't think was as prevalent pre-Covid.