USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

The debate is going to be meaningless - they are all just soundbyte farms for each side to use against one another. The attention span of the swinging voter is shorter and shorter (and each side is rusted on in their support). This is but a spectacle rather than substance.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Chief]

Joe and Kamala shut down refineries, aka cut the supply of oil and gas because of the Green New Deal.

Cut the supply, Inelastic demand - basic economics. COVID was the excuse.

Which refineries?

 

[faible]

Seems to me that Harris is marked against a higher standard than Trump on the economy especially by the media. Why is this? I am yet to hear anything of substance from DonOld as to what his plans for the economy are. Plus he just pulls numbers out of thin air to make himself look good and his opponents look bad.

Democrats are held to a different standard. They're expected to behave like adults, not lie, not break laws, not be racist etc etc.

It's like how people try to equivocate Harris spinning things the way all politicians do, where they're not outright lying, they're sugar coating, or using very specific words like she did regarding US troops in active combat zones that is 'technically' true but also misleading, with what Trump does.

Meanwhile Trump just outright lies. Dozens of times. Hundreds of times. Thousands of times. He lies about his lies.

 

[campbell]

That wasn’t a debate, it was a 3 vs 1 tag team effort. Trump didn’t perform terribly, but when you’ve got biased liberals fact checking you (didn’t see Kamala fact checked for any of her countless lies), it’s a pretty hard environment to be in.

Kamala hasn’t released any policy because she doesn’t have any plain and simple. She’s overseen unsustainable immigration levels, paraded war and been 2IC to the worst inflation levels in the western world in most of our lifetimes.

Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine which has been an abject failure for the West, the countless billions spent there is crazy. I get and agree Putin is a scumbag but still there’s been no talk about peace or negotiation, Boris Johnson amongst others sabotaged those plans. Trump wants to cut illegal immigration, which is well overdue. And wants to bring down inflation. These are all good things, the world needs these all to take us away from the brink of WW3.

Kamala has no policies yet because it’s Trump is the supposed boogy man, people can’t stand him. I see him as someone offering a plan, whilst flawed, there’s something to work with.

oh my.....ye na......

 

[blackshadow]

That wasn’t a debate, it was a 3 vs 1 tag team effort. Trump didn’t perform terribly, but when you’ve got biased liberals fact checking you (didn’t see Kamala fact checked for any of her countless lies), it’s a pretty hard environment to be in.

Kamala hasn’t released any policy because she doesn’t have any plain and simple. She’s overseen unsustainable immigration levels, paraded war and been 2IC to the worst inflation levels in the western world in most of our lifetimes.

Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine which has been an abject failure for the West, the countless billions spent there is crazy. I get and agree Putin is a scumbag but still there’s been no talk about peace or negotiation, Boris Johnson amongst others sabotaged those plans. Trump wants to cut illegal immigration, which is well overdue. And wants to bring down inflation. These are all good things, the world needs these all to take us away from the brink of WW3.

Kamala has no policies yet because it’s Trump is the supposed boogy man, people can’t stand him. I see him as someone offering a plan, whilst flawed, there’s something to work with.

Ooh a new bot!

 

[faible]

It's also a comment on how hard it is to vote in the US.

Voting on a Tuesday? WTF???
Lack of infrastructure that means long lines to vote.
Vastly different rules in different states and Counties.
No Federal organisation.
No preferential voting.
Almost the worst system imaginable. Some might say by design too.

Everything about the US voting system benefits the Republicans AFAIK. The Dems have to be significant better just to stay ahead of the shitty electoral system.

 

[faible]

nor do I intend to, especially since Tucker got the can.

 

[Dazzler9]

Tells us all we need to know about this poster, don't it?

 

[Randomizor]

Everything about the US voting system benefits the Republicans AFAIK. The Dems have to be significant better just to stay ahead of the shitty electoral system.

I think the stat is that because of the electoral college you can technically win the election with only 23% of the popular vote.

Imagine creating a system where the president can be a person that doesn’t represent 77% of the population. Insane.

 

[Saint]

Joe and Kamala shut down refineries, aka cut the supply of oil and gas because of the Green New Deal.

Cut the supply, Inelastic demand - basic economics. COVID was the excuse.

How come prices were higher in 2010-2015 and the actual peak was in 2008?

You do know we buy our refined petroleum from Singapore, don't you?

 

[blackshadow]

How did they cause that?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Which refineries?

The ones that got shut down!

He already told you that!

Now leave him alone he's got to go back to protecting his dog from raiding gangs of Haitians.

 

[NSWCROW]

Fully here for the MTG v loomer beef


Would pay good $ to watch marj turn loomer into a pretzel

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Fully here for the MTG v loomer beef


Would pay good $ to watch marj turn loomer into a pretzel

Just perusing Twitter on my lunch break. Needed some popcorn for that one!

 

[Celebrity 101]

Democrats are held to a different standard. They're expected to behave like adults, not lie, not break laws, not be racist etc etc.

It's like how people try to equivocate Harris spinning things the way all politicians do, where they're not outright lying, they're sugar coating, or using very specific words like she did regarding US troops in active combat zones that is 'technically' true but also misleading, with what Trump does.

Meanwhile Trump just outright lies. Dozens of times. Hundreds of times. Thousands of times. He lies about his lies.

Kamala doesn’t lie, she tells the truth every time. She’s a rolemodel citizen.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on Projecf 2025, which Trump disavowed.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on falsely insinuating that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent.

Trump, Harris told Americans on Tuesday night, will sign a national abortion ban and hire a national “abortion … monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages” if he is elected. That’s beyond a lie.

What about Kamala’s flip flop stance on fracking.

Where are the ABC fact checkers. Rules for Trump but not thee

 

[Not Important]

Kamala doesn’t lie, she tells the truth every time. She’s a rolemodel citizen.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on Projecf 2025, which Trump disavowed.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on falsely insinuating that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent.

Trump, Harris told Americans on Tuesday night, will sign a national abortion ban and hire a national “abortion … monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages” if he is elected. That’s beyond a lie.

What about Kamala’s flip flop stance on fracking.

Where are the ABC fact checkers. Rules for Trump but not thee

answer the question from Chief -#7,528

 

[FireKrakouer]

Anyone seen FireKrakouer around? Did he get to catch up on the debate post work. Still hanging for his endorsement. Some say it will be bigger than Taylor swifts.

I have a concept of a plan of who I will endorse... stand by m8.

 

[faible]

Kamala doesn’t lie, she tells the truth every time. She’s a rolemodel citizen.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on Projecf 2025, which Trump disavowed.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on falsely insinuating that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent.

Trump, Harris told Americans on Tuesday night, will sign a national abortion ban and hire a national “abortion … monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages” if he is elected. That’s beyond a lie.

What about Kamala’s flip flop stance on fracking.

Where are the ABC fact checkers. Rules for Trump but not thee

Now do Trumps' lies. Start with the immigrants eating dogs and cats

 

[Celebrity 101]

How do you feel about Trump being so easily baited by things like comments on his rally sizes? How do you expect him to be able to negotiate with world leaders if all they have to do is say “Your crowds are small” and he’ll completely melt down?

Putin never invaded Ukraine under Trump.
Hamas never parachuted into Israel.
North Korea calmed down its missiles
The Taliban didn’t seize control under Trump.

All under the watchful eye of the Democrat party. Formally the party of peace, now more pro war then traditionalist republicans who used to be all in for War.

All under Joe and Kamala’s watch. We need a Trump like figure in Australia, this country is heading down a tragic path.The swamp here needs to be drained. Albos trying (some good, some awful) but he inherited a hot mess from 3 disgraceful do nothing Lib governments.

 

[tigland]

Swift just said in a speech at the VMAs that if eligible to make sure you register to vote. Didn't mention her preference or anything like that, just to make sure you register. Will be interesting to see if it has any impact

 

[Magnum27]

Sucker. I currently and consistently get mine from the local station for 171.9

Thanks Joe and Kamala.

Geeting mine at 1.58 in the west of Melbourne, Thanks Joe and Kamala

 

[happy_eagle]

Joe and Kamala shut down refineries, aka cut the supply of oil and gas because of the Green New Deal.

Cut the supply, Inelastic demand - basic economics. COVID was the excuse.

When did the Green New Deal get passed into law?

I must have missed that one.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Kamala doesn’t lie, she tells the truth every time. She’s a rolemodel citizen.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on Projecf 2025, which Trump disavowed.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on falsely insinuating that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent.

Trump, Harris told Americans on Tuesday night, will sign a national abortion ban and hire a national “abortion … monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages” if he is elected. That’s beyond a lie.

What about Kamala’s flip flop stance on fracking.

Where are the ABC fact checkers. Rules for Trump but not thee

 

[campbell]

Swift just said in a speech at the VMAs that if eligible to make sure you register to vote. Didn't mention her preference or anything like that, just to make sure you register. Will be interesting to see if it has any impact

I read somewhere, over 300,000 since she endorsed Harris......

Taylor Swift Drove Nearly 338K People to Vote.gov With Kamala Harris Endorsement Post

According to data from the GSA, Swift's post directed 337,826 people to the site, which refers people to their local state election websites.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Hank Scorpion]

It says something about conservatives that they so readily accept that their candidate is a senile raving lunatic.

None of them aren't even trying to mount a defense of the insane shit he says any more. They're just lying to themselves that Harris is even in the same galaxy of wherever Donold's mushbrain is.

Just imagine if all the Democrats had come out after the Biden debate and insisted he won 90-10 and that it was biased fake news and audio earrings that made him look as ancient as he was.

 

[Celebrity 101]

When did the Green New Deal get passed into law?

I must have missed that one.

Remind me what earrings was Kamala wearing.

They almost look identical to the NovaH1 audio earbuds.

So Kamala needed the tag team 3 v 1 with moderators to debate Trump but also potentially being fed a script of how to debate Trump. It’s why I say potentially, there’s no true way of us knowing.

I wonder why she won’t debate him on X or Fox. Hmmm. She knows without the extra help, she will perform worse then Joe