USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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[campbell]

frig they are stupid.
lets take over now.

'Put him in charge now': Don Jr. demands Trump get federal power after Vance-Walz debate

Donald Trump Jr. called for President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris to let his father "take over" some government operations following a vice presidential debate between Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN).Just moments after the debate concluded, former President Donald...

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[Maggie5]

Yes Tim made it very clear he’s from Minnesota and JD made it very clear he has three children at home.

Did he mention that they were bi-racial?

 

[Swan4Life]

You moron, the media don’t do that, he does it himself.

Why do you feel the need to resort to personal insults?

MODERATORS - I have received two week bans for simply linking a site that someone didn't like.

Is this the really the standard you are walking past?

 

[QuietB]

Has trump ever revealed his tax returns?

It would be the financial equivalent of confirming the size of his willy

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Why do you feel the need to resort to personal insults?

MODERATORS - I have received two week bans for simply linking a site that someone didn't like.

Is this the really the standard you are walking past?

 

[TheSunGod]

Don't think I will make time to watch it. Read this article and pretty much covers it.

Tuesday night’s Vance-Walz matchup was more civil and substantive than the Trump-Harris one — with enough for both sides to claim victory.

The vice presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance on Tuesday was something of a stalemate, though it did feature several striking moments and offered an interesting preview into what presidential politics might look like once Donald Trump is off the stage.

It isn’t clear yet how genuinely undecided voters responded to the debate — a CBS poll afterward showed 42 percent of debate watchers thought Vance won and 41 percent thought Walz did, while 17 percent thought it was a tie. A CNN poll showed 51 percent thought Vance won and 49 percent thought Walz did (CNN didn’t offer the “tie” option).
Scored purely on affect and debating technique — without regard to factual accuracy — Vance did a bit better. He stuck to his two-pronged strategy: first, to blame Kamala Harris for everything voters don’t like that has happened under the Biden administration; and second, to put a reasonable-seeming face on Trumpism.

In doing so, though, Vance said many misleading or totally untrue things, such as that Donald Trump saved Obamacare, that immigrants caused the US housing crisis, and that Trump was merely peacefully discussing “problems” with the 2020 election rather than blatantly trying to steal that election from the rightful winner, Joe Biden.

Walz’s performance was rockier, and while he had his moments — he spoke effectively about health care, abortion, and Trump’s threat to democracy — his answers were less disciplined and more scattershot. He seemed flatfooted by a question regarding his past, reportedly untrue claims to have been in Hong Kong at the time of the Tiananmen Square crackdown in 1989 – not exactly the most important and pressing issue of the day, but something he probably should have prepared a better answer for.

So, on points, Vance may have won by a nose. But he did so in a way that is unlikely to matter very much, if at all, for the presidential contest. In general, vice presidential debates very rarely impact the polls. And this particular debate lacked any breakout moment likely to dominate headlines for days in what’s become a very crowded October news environment (Middle East escalation, Hurricane Helene, the port strike).

Watched it live and that’s a pretty fair assessment. But if the Tiananmen Square incident is the best thing they’ve got on Walz they’re really struggling. My foggy memory had me in Iran just before the Tehran hostage crisis but after checking the dates again it was about 10 months earlier. Totally un-Australian to let the truth get in the way of a good story

 

[Contested Marx]

He was flawless tonight.

maybe until he refused to denounce his and his running mate's beliefs and false claims re. the 2020 election

 

[Around the Wicket]

JD Vance killed it - Trump 2024.

 

[Blue1980]

That was a debate straight out of 1988. Nothing happened.

We aren’t used to that, we are used to cognitive meltdowns like Biden or rambling stupidity like Trump.

 

[Blue1980]

Don't think I will make time to watch it. Read this article and pretty much covers it.

Tuesday night’s Vance-Walz matchup was more civil and substantive than the Trump-Harris one — with enough for both sides to claim victory.

The vice presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance on Tuesday was something of a stalemate, though it did feature several striking moments and offered an interesting preview into what presidential politics might look like once Donald Trump is off the stage.

It isn’t clear yet how genuinely undecided voters responded to the debate — a CBS poll afterward showed 42 percent of debate watchers thought Vance won and 41 percent thought Walz did, while 17 percent thought it was a tie. A CNN poll showed 51 percent thought Vance won and 49 percent thought Walz did (CNN didn’t offer the “tie” option).
Scored purely on affect and debating technique — without regard to factual accuracy — Vance did a bit better. He stuck to his two-pronged strategy: first, to blame Kamala Harris for everything voters don’t like that has happened under the Biden administration; and second, to put a reasonable-seeming face on Trumpism.

In doing so, though, Vance said many misleading or totally untrue things, such as that Donald Trump saved Obamacare, that immigrants caused the US housing crisis, and that Trump was merely peacefully discussing “problems” with the 2020 election rather than blatantly trying to steal that election from the rightful winner, Joe Biden.

Walz’s performance was rockier, and while he had his moments — he spoke effectively about health care, abortion, and Trump’s threat to democracy — his answers were less disciplined and more scattershot. He seemed flatfooted by a question regarding his past, reportedly untrue claims to have been in Hong Kong at the time of the Tiananmen Square crackdown in 1989 – not exactly the most important and pressing issue of the day, but something he probably should have prepared a better answer for.

So, on points, Vance may have won by a nose. But he did so in a way that is unlikely to matter very much, if at all, for the presidential contest. In general, vice presidential debates very rarely impact the polls. And this particular debate lacked any breakout moment likely to dominate headlines for days in what’s become a very crowded October news environment (Middle East escalation, Hurricane Helene, the port strike).

So it was an old school not moving the needle debate.

Mind you how many VP debates do, I don’t even remember Harris v pence 2020 aside from the fly on Pence.

 

[Satan]

VD Vance killed it - Trump 2024.

Lol

 

[Blue1980]

Shoulda mentioned Prince.

And the replacements and husker du.

 

[Blue1980]

Did he mention that they were bi-racial?

“JD says his kids were bi racial then white, they changed and I don’t know why”

 

[Blue1980]

VD Vance killed it - Trump 2024.

What is this VD Vance, sounds painful.

 

[Satan]

And the replacements and husker du.

And joe inglis

 

[Around the Wicket]

What is this VD Vance, sounds painful.

JD Vance, Typo.

 

[Satan]

JD Vance, Typo.

Contagious ?

 

[Around the Wicket]

Waltz was shockingly bad.

 

[GreyCrow]

JD Vance, Typo.

I thought it was a Trumpism meme

 

[Bloods86]

Waltz was shockingly bad.

Christoph? I've always found him to be a pretty good actor.

 

[GreyCrow]

Christoph? I've always found him to be a pretty good actor.

 

[Spearman]

frig they are stupid.
lets take over now.

'Put him in charge now': Don Jr. demands Trump get federal power after Vance-Walz debate

Donald Trump Jr. called for President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris to let his father "take over" some government operations following a vice presidential debate between Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN).Just moments after the debate concluded, former President Donald...

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Wow wtf is he cutting his coke with now?

 

[Gough]

And the replacements and husker du.

Devo and Boz Scaggs repping Ohio.

 

[Spearman]

And the replacements and husker du.

and the Gear Daddies

 

[10571z]

Vance was on the debating team at Yale.

It shows.