List Mgmt. 2024 Young Talent Time (Drafting)

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[Joao]

If its Bo we might as well trade up for him now. Wallsy doesn't get over it and he'll end up costing more in trade 4 years from now.

 

[ROGS]

Would you be content with Fremantle making that trade if it were the other way around? A six place slide for a future first?

I think our board will be upset if we pay that much to move up to pick a player that doesn't really fit an immediate need - then if/when Bo turns into a gun midfielder/half back we will look at it as massive value.

Bo has the potential to be another Luke Hodge, just get him

 

[stax on the mull]

Will Hayes

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Will Hayes

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

interviewed tonight said he had meetings with 15 clubs at the draft camp.

 

[theGav56]

Only thing I'm saying is its cheaper to trade up the draft this year because of the relative eveness

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. The thing is that trading up/down will be driven by needs rather than rating imo. You have North looking to trade down because midfielders just aren't a massive priority. If our priority really was a beast of a HBF-er then I think we'd pay up for the right pick.

 

[stax on the mull]

Will Hayes interviewed tonight said he had meetings with 15 clubs at the draft camp.

I just thought for a player reckoned to be to later pick in the draft or a rookie, interest from 15 clubs was quite a lot, as he may be more of long term prospect at AFL level with his light frame.

Just listened to another bit of media he did on SEN yesterday. He said it was 11 clubs interviewed him at the draft camp, and 4 since visited the house. He was telling Gossage and Cummings that when Fremantle came to the house and talked to his dad, his dad spent most of the time talking about the history of the club. i.e a fanatic.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah I gathered that’s what you meant in your reply to my original post and whilst agree it has been , it’ll be a different beast in this draft on the night due to basically clubs having to play their hand when it comes to trading up for the player they want

And as also ( and ironically) ,due to being so “even”meaning as clubs start to pick after (I’m guess p6 onwards) clubs will really have a better idea of who’s on the board etc so I really can see a flurry of clubs looking to start wheeling and dealing and not just the likes of Sydney and gws etc looking to move up but teams like ess/haw(even WC) who have stated they’ll be keen to get into this part of the draft.

Simple supply and demand metrics i can see some clubs ending up paying pretty big on draft night , especially in that 10-30 bracket

I think the "tax" is removed if it's done on opening and not waiting for the actual pick, then it's more like it was agreed before hand and just needed to wait for draft night to begin. I'm not really a fan of it regardless anyway. Seems we are a lock to get whoever is left out of the top end sub 190cm players and that works for me.

 

[stavro#4]

Cal mentioned on Gettable Wednesday that we are trying to bundle 14 + 30 to move up. So is St Kilda happy to slide back 6 spots to add pick 30? Potentially if they want a player that will be there later. Also the option of future pick swaps to add in

I think F1 is untouchable for us considering players like Chad and Kozzy could be gettable.

For perspective, We can only take 3 “Live” picks at the draft.

So 7,14,30,32,47 doesn’t really work for us.

It was an interesting tidbit in the age. But it’s hard to see how this gets done.

Whereas 8+32 for 15+16+ late pick for academy points would work from the Giants.

 

[Superkoops]

For perspective, We can only take 3 “Live” picks at the draft.

So 7,14,30,32,47 doesn’t really work for us.

It was an interesting tidbit in the age. But it’s hard to see how this gets done.



Whereas 8+32 for 15+16+ late pick for academy points would work from the Giants.

Twomey prob heard we have been asking the question. Doesn’t mean St Kilda are actually interested. As you say it might take a good future pick swap scenario.

I wonder whether package is entertained with Sydney:
19,22 > 14,30

 

[Polo342]

Twomey prob heard we have been asking the question. Doesn’t mean St Kilda are actually interested. As you say it might take a good future pick swap scenario.

I wonder whether package is entertained with Sydney:
19,22 > 14,30

Id actually be all good with that. But doubt Berry slides that far back

 

[Superkoops]

https://archive.md/lDVDQ

Seems dropping 2-3 spots is the value of F2. Adelaide and North a possibility of 2 > 4,F2

West Coast dropped a few spots via F2 swap with Port in 2021 when they ended up with Chesser:
12 > 14, F2.

Clubs 2-4 spots ahead of us:
10,11 (Richmond) - can’t see that happening
12 (WCE) - can’t see that happening either

Melbourne have pick 9 (next pick is not until 79)
St Kilda have 7,8 (next picks 32,47,80) - doesn’t really make a lot of sense for them to get 30 and drop back 6 spots. They have an academy player who is around mid 30 to mid 40 so not sure they need another pick in the 30 range.

Melbourne would be some chance but would cost more than than F2 or 30.

9, 79 > 14, 30, F3 (Freo)

 

[Sewell21]

Can we put Odin on the long term injury list and draft a replacement player or can we only and another via SSP?

 

[Taylor]

It will have to be an additional player in the SSP, but it will mean we can draft an extra player knowing we will have the spare spot later. If that makes sense

 

[greatgatsby]

It will have to be an additional player in the SSP, but it will mean we can draft an extra player knowing we will have the spare spot later. If that makes sense

Please explain Taylor

 

[Dockeroo]

Please explain Taylor

I think what we can do here (assuming jones is ruled out for all of next season, or at least on a “long term” basis) is place him on a LTI list, then use that spot to select Quinton Narkle.

This in turn means there is one extra spot available on draft night or in the rookie draft, that we could use on a new player (not an already listed one like Knobel who will be added to the RL the day after the national draft, regardless).

Basically means we could have new players in the club with
14
30
67

And then one new player in the rookie draft alongside Knobel.

Before Odins injury we needed to save that rookie list spot for Narkle.

 

[Superkoops]

Please explain Taylor

That last pick in ND might be lined up for a specific mature age type like Jaren Carr for example. Knowing we have a spot available in the Rookie draft we instead target another young player with our third pick. We may even for example try and upgrade that third pick to select a young slider in the draft who we rated much higher than 50 for example. Murphy last year was rated much higher and not necessarily an area of need we just picked him anyway at 40.

Quite often we use our last late ND pick for mature ager, ie Frederick, Switta, Wagner, Bewley/Schultz etc. last year we instead added McDonald as DFA.

I think what Taylor is saying is with an additional spot in rookie we can change tact a little for our third ND pick.

 

[Taylor]

Exactly, before the injury we had to be locked into passing on a National Draft pick so we have the rookie spots to take Narkle in the SSP. Knowing we will have another spot open up after the draft for Narkle due to the Jones injury, it will allow us to take that extra National Draft selection instead - or take another rookie pick/have Carr on the rookie list instead of the national draft.