List Mgmt. 2025 Draft/Trade/FA Thread

[Crusty Demon]

Last year I did think we should suggest to Bombers that they trade up to pick 5 for their first and future first with a bunch of late picks for points going back.

May not have been accepted but I feel like that is 2 top 6 picks this year for Bombers and potentially 2 top 4 picks. Rebuild is coming for our team and quantity of high picks before Tassie gets here is important.

I'd hate to say it, but moving Koz and Trac on will probably be needed more than wanted. Isn't next year the last year before Tas starts raiding the talent? Koz and Trac are my two favourite players amongst a list of s*, so even typing this makes me tear up. But f* we need to go full rebuild now. New coach, new list manager, will have a new president, and we need some quality draft picks now. Was hopeful even after last weeks game, but today will have broken any spirit any supporter had surely.

 

[Demon Attack]

Lindsay for the first rounder this year looks more than fine, no matter how bad our year is.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Lindsay for the first rounder this year looks more than fine, no matter how bad our year is.

Is Kalani this years draft?

 

[schmuttt]

Is Kalani this years draft?

Yes, but not sure yet how high he'll go in the draft. Also would need to nominate us.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Yes, but not sure yet how high he'll go in the draft. Also would need to nominate us.

Pretty confident he'll choose us from what I've seen. But who knows. Not sure he's going to cost us much unless he lifts this year.

 

[The Dr]

Full rebuild needed. Sorry Max, May, and Co, but there's not gonna be a last dance.

Trade Trac if he's not happy/invested.

Keep Koz if at all possible because he's the only spark in the entire club, and a player fans turn up to watch.

Mind you, all of the above is pointless if Goody stays on. My god what a boring team we are.


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[A11dAtP0w3R]

Full rebuild needed. Sorry Max, May, and Co, but there's not gonna be a last dance.

Trade Trac if he's not happy/invested.

Keep Koz if at all possible because he's the only spark in the entire club, and a player fans turn up to watch.

Mind you, all of the above is pointless if Goody stays on. My god what a boring team we are.


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Should have traded May and Viney at the end of last year but the club wanted to live in denial.

Should have traded Oliver the year before.

Lever being traded would have been a surprise but is the sort of move a club with foresight does.

Koz, Trac and Fritsch will want out, I've got no doubts and who could blame them.

Everyone who does go now will go for pennies on the dollar pretty much except for Koz and maybe Trac (pending how the rest of the year plays out)

In a different timeline we have a new board, ceo and appointed a new coach at the end of 2023 and are building something good right now, exciting times.

But no, no, we decided to be premiership bath water drinking nuffies who thought it was a given that everything will fall into our lap again and stability was all that was needed. Why develop and continue to stay ahead of the competition when you can remain stable? Get the All Blacks coach back to get the club to help Goody (money well spent) and do another hard internal review where we replace a few people with other people already here. Promoting from within and bringing in friendly faces who won't rock the boat is key so we can remain on this downhill trajectory.

 

[Bluelegs]

Everyone thought Collingwood were cooked in 2021. Same for Giants in 2022.

I'd see what a new coach could do with this list first.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Everyone thought Collingwood were cooked in 2021. Same for Giants in 2022.

I'd see what a new coach could do with this list first.

That sort of was my point about exciting times if we moved off Goody when we should have, could have re-energized the players, but we have hung on too long now to where I think players will want out no matter what.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Even if we didn't move on after 2023 like we should have, sacking him at the end of last year could have made a difference, a new face who lives in the modern game with a year to show Trac and Koz brighter times are ahead. But nah, let's keep this broken marriage together.

 

[Bluelegs]

That sort of was my point about exciting times if we moved off Goody when we should have, could have re-energized the players, but we have hung on to long now to where I think players will want out no matter what.

They can harden up. They were happy to sign long term deals when it suited them. Unless we're getting Richmond style deals I see little purpose in blowing the list up.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

They can harden up. They were happy to sign long term deals when it suited them. Unless we're getting Richmond style deals I see little purpose in blowing the list up.

Can just see it being a toxic offseason. And we will probably cave coz we don't need a new coach having to deal with all that sort of drama and fair enough too.

I do hope Trac, Koz and Slick give a new coach 1 year to change their minds don't get me wrong but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[SugarHealey]

Is Kalani this years draft?

 

[Bluelegs]

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A supernatural leap you say?

Kalani 'The Wizard' White

 

[SugarHealey]

Full rebuild needed. Sorry Max, May, and Co, but there's not gonna be a last dance.

Trade Trac if he's not happy/invested.

Keep Koz if at all possible because he's the only spark in the entire club, and a player fans turn up to watch.

Mind you, all of the above is pointless if Goody stays on. My god what a boring team we are.


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Should have traded May and Viney at the end of last year but the club wanted to live in denial.

Should have traded Oliver the year before.

Lever being traded would have been a surprise but is the sort of move a club with foresight does.

Koz, Trac and Fritsch will want out, I've got no doubts and who could blame them.

Everyone who does go now will go for pennies on the dollar pretty much except for Koz and maybe Trac (pending how the rest of the year plays out)

In a different timeline we have a new board, ceo and appointed a new coach at the end of 2023 and are building something good right now, exciting times.

But no, no, we decided to be premiership bath water drinking nuffies who thought it was a given that everything will fall into our lap again and stability was all that was needed. Why develop and continue to stay ahead of the competition when you can remain stable? Get the All Blacks coach back to get the club to help Goody (money well spent) and do another hard internal review where we replace a few people with other people already here. Promoting from within and bringing in friendly faces who won't rock the boat is key so we can remain on this downhill trajectory.

Of the players above, I think we need to replace from the side, sooner rather than later... Lever, Salem, Fritcsh... experience yes but the old ways are inbred, and our offence starts from the defender leaders.

The other is Fritsch, who is just soft, lazy, and frankly a liability, when we are struggling.
He does not have a mind for any defence.
It just does not seem to occur to him that he should block for team-mates, when they have the ball.
He is not a team player.!
Always just looks for the receive. Never chases with intent, nor tackle with intent. And most of his tackles, when he's in the mood, are just broken easily.
This attitude rubs off on others in the team, and we drop our standards.

I would very definately sound out offers for Fritta, and also Oli, at end of year.
Oli looks to have found his hunger for the ball... but still just hack handballs off, or hack kicks the ball as a first thought, rather than move on his legs with ball in hand, to try to find a team-mate in better position who could use the ball better.

We need to get fresh blood in our midfield as the midfield method of the past 6 or so years... it looks very tired.!!
We need 2 big bodied beasts in there, and the others should be of class, agile creative and great kicks.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

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Of the players above, I think we need to replace from the side, sooner rather than later... Lever, Salem, Fritcsh... experience yes but the old ways are inbred, and our offence starts from the defender leaders.

The other is Fritsch, who is just soft, lazy, and frankly a liability, when we are struggling.
He does not have a mind for any defence.
It just does not seem to occur to him that he should block for team-mates, when they have the ball.
He is not a team player.!
Always just looks for the receive. Never chases with intent, nor tackle with intent. And most of his tackles, when he's in the mood, are just broken easily.
This attitude rubs off on others in the team, and we drop our standards.

I would very definately sound out offers for Fritta, and also Oli, at end of year.
Oli looks to have found his hunger for the ball... but still just hack handballs off, or hack kicks the ball as a first thought, rather than move on his legs with ball in hand, to try to find a team-mate in better position who could use the ball better.

We need to get fresh blood in our midfield as the midfield method of the past 6 or so years... it looks very tired.!!
We need 2 big bodied beasts in there, and the others should be of class, agile creative and great kicks.

And in todays episode of Sugar hates Fritsch

The game has moved away from needing big bodied beasts. Its 1 maximum now imo and even then you can survive without 1 if you have someone who plays inside and out. Its all about skills and run and carry.

 

[SugarHealey]

A supernatural leap you say?

Kalani 'The Wizard' White

Can you photoshop a cape on him. He might need it?

 

[SugarHealey]

And in todays episode of Sugar hates Fritsch

The game has moved away from needing big bodied beasts. Its 1 maximum now imo and even then you can survive without 1 if you have someone who plays inside and out. Its all about skills and run and carry.

I don't hate him, I don't hate any Demons players.
I just don't rate him as much at all.

Preaching to the converted A11.

Oh, I barack for the club... not the players. I don't idolise anyone, anytime.

 

[Demon Attack]

And in todays episode of Sugar hates Fritsch

The game has moved away from needing big bodied beasts. Its 1 maximum now imo and even then you can survive without 1 if you have someone who plays inside and out. Its all about skills and run and carry.

And Lever

 

[SugarHealey]

And Lever

Lever was a great intercept mark back in the day, when the press and flood was the in thing. And he would simply direct traffic out of our back-line long high and slow hugging the boundary.

Kind of the opposite of what we should be doing in these days, of running the footy with speed. The running game was the reason the flood/press was undone. See Richmond under Hardwick. Thankgod for that.

We on the current style are indoctrinated on win the contest, and bang the ball long and high into F50, and take the meters. And then win the next contest.
Zone defence kills this everytime. And us.

Lever stifles, from start to finish. opposition, and our offence.

We have to un-indoctrinate quickly, because we have to learn a new method and old habits die hard.

 

[stEdy]

I'm open to sacking Goody as long as we get Sugar Healey at least as an assistant coach

 

[markm106]

We are definitely going to be looking at a rebuild of sorts. And we’ve been regenerating on the run also. But I’m not keen to go scorched earth on the list. You’d want some major currency back. Richmond got lucky last year but even then they’ll be bottom 4 for years.
Some players like Trac may want out but it’ll be hard to get he value back. Particularly when we could be footing some of his wage. We are in a difficult spot especially if we lose Kozzy. We would really be wanting some of these young guys to come good and maybe a snag a decent FA or 2.

 

[schmuttt]

We are definitely going to be looking at a rebuild of sorts. And we’ve been regenerating on the run also. But I’m not keen to go scorched earth on the list. You’d want some major currency back. Richmond got lucky last year but even then they’ll be bottom 4 for years.
Some players like Trac may want out but it’ll be hard to get he value back. Particularly when we could be footing some of his wage. We are in a difficult spot especially if we lose Kozzy. We would really be wanting some of these young guys to come good and maybe a snag a decent FA or 2.

The club deciding to keep Oliver and Viney is going to set us back a few years IMO, because no way they will have the guts to rip the bandaid off and move one of them. It interferes with Langfords development and keeps us very inside heavy in our midfield group.

 

[Mich0]

Because they want players who can kick. Pretty obvious.

We got plenty of players who can kick, we have been recruiting them for years in Billings, Lindsay, Windsor, Bowey, Mcvee, Spargo, Salem (supposedly), Laser ect

Issue is we don’t have players who can kick in the guts. Yeh let’s bring in Farrell and play him off half back while the same 4 amigos continue to bomb it in. Will make the same amount of difference as bringing in all those other guys I just listed have.

If anything, Goodwin will probably just try move Mcvee into some other pissfart role to make room for Farrel like he has with Rivers and look how that’s going.

We need inside mids who can kick, not more bloody flankers.

 

[markm106]

The club deciding to keep Oliver and Viney is going to set us back a few years IMO, because no way they will have the guts to rip the bandaid off and move one of them. It interferes with Langfords development and keeps us very inside heavy in our midfield group.

I think the Viney could definitely bite us. Clarry had a mare last year off the back of off field issues. Seems like he’s getting back towards his best.
I can see the club point of view on Viney. He’s heart and soul of the club. 3 more seasons after this year so we’ll need to see if we can sort out a solution in the middle.