2025 Draw - hoping for MUCH softer

[jenny61_99]

The point re the last couple of years, is we have had opening rounds in the humidity & heat of Queensland .....it has been a factor, given Adelaide's heat is very dry

I see your signature line has been edited for you too.

 

[kirky]

I expect?
Yeah, used to be 6.
Last 10 years is 5.
Now it's only 4. With 2 sold away.
What's wrong with expecting 5 when half the comp are based here?

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You are getting 5 in Victoria, you just have to go to Ballarat that's all. It ain't Adelaide's fault that Bulldogs have sold home games to Ballarat.

We have 10 away games and 5 are in Victoria. Seems about right.

 

[daniel_4tw]

You are getting 5 in Victoria, you just have to go to Ballarat that's all. It ain't Adelaide's fault that Bulldogs have sold home games to Ballarat.

We have 10 away games and 5 are in Victoria. Seems about right.

Sounds great in theory but then Hawks and North each have SIX away games in Melbourne.

This is what frustrates me.

North and Hawks and WB sell their games to rural grounds and it’s the small interstate clubs that have to go. Meanwhile, the club selling the game just get additional games in Melbourne as the away team to make up for it.

We’re always told that ‘home games vs another Vic’ isn’t really HGA, so that means playing away isn’t really an away team.

It’s kinda like North selling their home games to WA and what a shock, they’re not scheduled to play an away game. What a coincidence, hey?

It’s seen as a disadvantage for the team selling the game whereas crows going to Ballarat or Tassie every year is just adding extra travel to clubs that travel the most and gives us less exposure where the Grand Final will be.

If clubs want to sell games, make everyone travel to the shit grounds (ie Collingwood). But this is what you get when money is driving the decisions over fairness.

 

[kirky]

Sounds great in theory but then Hawks and North each have SIX away games in Melbourne.

This is what frustrates me.

North and Hawks and WB sell their games to rural grounds and it’s the small interstate clubs that have to go. Meanwhile, the club selling the game just get additional games in Melbourne as the away team to make up for it.

We’re always told that ‘home games vs another Vic’ isn’t really HGA, so that means playing away isn’t really an away team.

It’s kinda like North selling their home games to WA and what a shock, they’re not scheduled to play an away game. What a coincidence, hey?

It’s seen as a disadvantage for the team selling the game whereas crows going to Ballarat or Tassie every year is just adding extra travel to clubs that travel the most and gives us less exposure where the Grand Final will be.

If clubs want to sell games, make everyone travel to the shit grounds (ie Collingwood). But this is what you get when money is driving the decisions over fairness.

Once you realise that the head honchos probably have KPIs based on attendance then you will understand why things they way things are.

When we eventually get to 10 Victorian teams vs 10 non-Victorian teams.

How many away non-victorian games do you expect Hawks and Roos to have now?

 

[jackster83]

The teams that sell home games should have to play these games against other teams that sell home games.

I.e. Hawks play the Bulldogs, North and GC in Launceston

 

[Dirty Bird]

For those who email the club - how do I contact Silvers?
Frankly, as a Melb based member with - yet again - only 4 games in Melb, I'd like to ask him why I should bother.

So what would it be all things being equal.

11 home, 1 neutral, 11 away.

There's 9 melbourne teams and 9 non-melbourne teams. So maximum 5.5 games in Melbourne if all things are equal. Take into account that there's 17 games sold to markets not their own, 11 of which are by Melbourne based sides. So there's about a 60% chance we're playing 1 elsewhere.

So what's that, likelihood of 4.9 games in Melbourne?

And that's assuming all things are equal, considering we get a double up showdown no matter what, the odds drop even lower.

Can you Victorian members lose your sense of entitlement please?
The only club that should be whinging about Melbourne games are Port Adelaide, every other team was +/- 1 of what a truly fair and equitable fixture would be.

Games in Melbourne
Brisbane - 5 (3 MCG, 2 Marvel)
Sydney - 5 (2 MCG, 3 Marvel)
Gold Coast - 5 (1 MCG, 4 Marvel)
West Coast - 5 (1 MCG, 4 Marvel)
Adelaide - 4 (3 MCG, 1 Marvel)
Fremantle - 4 (2 MCG, 2 Marvel)
Greater Western Sydney - 4 (1 MCG, 3 Marvel)
Port Adelaide - 3 (1 MCG, 2 Marvel)

 

[skam85]

Can you Victorian members lose your sense of entitlement please?

sure they can when you stop being such a pretentious flog

 

[The Shapeshifter]

You are getting 5 in Victoria, you just have to go to Ballarat that's all. It ain't Adelaide's fault that Bulldogs have sold home games to Ballarat.

We have 10 away games and 5 are in Victoria. Seems about right.

The VIC membership doesn't appear to include the Ballarat or Tassie games. And the complaint appears to be that the membership price has continued to increase in line with others, despite access reducing from 6 to 4 games courtesy of the Ballarat and Tassie sold games. Whilst that's out of the club's control, they're either gouging if they're paying less for those games or they're incompetent in not negotiating lesser cost if there's less access.

Obviously this relies upon the costs remaining consistent throughout the years, I'm trusting the complainant in that regard.

 

[skam85]

The VIC membership doesn't appear to include the Ballarat or Tassie games. And the complaint appears to be that the membership price has continued to increase in line with others, despite access reducing from 6 to 4 games courtesy of the Ballarat and Tassie sold games. Whilst that's out of the club's control, they're either gouging if they're paying less for those games or they're incompetent in not negotiating lesser cost if there's less access.

Obviously this relies upon the costs remaining consistent throughout the years, I'm trusting the complainant in that regard.

This year they added the Geelong game to the membership which is a good start, my only thinking is Ballarat won't get included because of capacity. Tassie potentially the same.

 

[Minor Threat]

Looking to book flights to go to Perth for crows vs eagles for round 22.
Although dates for the round haven’t been announced, counting each weekend from round 15 would it be safe to say that we play on the weekend of August 9/10?

 

[SugarShane]

Looking to book flights to go to Perth for crows vs eagles for round 22.
Although dates for the round haven’t been announced, counting each weekend from round 15 would it be safe to say that we play on the weekend of August 9/10?

As far as I'm aware they've never changed the order of games so you should be pretty safe. Just theoretically could be anything from that Friday night to Sunday twilight.

****ing shits me that everything always just says "dates and times tbc". Just put TBC 8-10 August or something ffs. It didn't end up happening but we were considering a Melbourne trip for August last year and I wanted to find out what MCG/Dome games would be on that weekend and it was a ****ing nightmare going back and forwards between the app and a calendar on my phone.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

For those who email the club - how do I contact Silvers?
Frankly, as a Melb based member with - yet again - only 4 games in Melb, I'd like to ask him why I should bother.

4 games plus finals

 

[kirky]

Looking to book flights to go to Perth for crows vs eagles for round 22.
Although dates for the round haven’t been announced, counting each weekend from round 15 would it be safe to say that we play on the weekend of August 9/10?

Yes and I’d be betting on we are the last game on the Sunday - start time would be twilight time in our time zone but an approx 3pm game WA time.

We aren’t going to play either Thursday or Friday night for two non-Vic sides, Saturday night will be out as will Saturday afternoons given the likely matchups which leaves Sunday and it won’t be the early game, doubt it will be the C7 game @ 3.20pm (AST) so it leaves the late game on Sunday.

 

[WeeBlake]

4 games plus finals

Some things go without saying

 

[WeeBlake]

For those who email the club - how do I contact Silvers?
Frankly, as a Melb based member with - yet again - only 4 games in Melb, I'd like to ask him why I should bother.

Yeah, I remember good old days when we’d get 8

 

[skam85]

4 games plus finals

So 5 games after our two home finals. Whoop de doo

 

[Shifty Crow]

Sounds great in theory but then Hawks and North each have SIX away games in Melbourne.

This is what frustrates me.

North and Hawks and WB sell their games to rural grounds and it’s the small interstate clubs that have to go. Meanwhile, the club selling the game just get additional games in Melbourne as the away team to make up for it.

We’re always told that ‘home games vs another Vic’ isn’t really HGA, so that means playing away isn’t really an away team.

It’s kinda like North selling their home games to WA and what a shock, they’re not scheduled to play an away game. What a coincidence, hey?

It’s seen as a disadvantage for the team selling the game whereas crows going to Ballarat or Tassie every year is just adding extra travel to clubs that travel the most and gives us less exposure where the Grand Final will be.

If clubs want to sell games, make everyone travel to the shit grounds (ie Collingwood). But this is what you get when money is driving the decisions over fairness.

In Pendlebury 400+ game career he has never played a game in Hobart, Launceston, Kadinia Park, Darwin, Cairns or Regional Victoria

Just illustrates what a leg up Collingwood gets from the fixture - year in, year out


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[Dirty Bird]

In Pendlebury 400+ game career he has never played a game in Hobart, Launceston, Kadinia Park, Darwin, Cairns or Regional Victoria

Just illustrates what a leg up Collingwood gets from the fixture - year in, year out


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Well, North melbourne only have 3 true away games next year.
Best ride in the league.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Well, North melbourne only have 3 true away games next year.
Best ride in the league.

North Melbourne is a one year sample size - Pendlebury is over a 20 year career, hadn’t played at Kadina, Tasmania or a regional venue

Collingwood are on a 20 year ride


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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

North Melbourne is a one year sample size - Pendlebury is over a 20 year career, hadn’t played at Kadina, Tasmania or a regional venue

Collingwood are on a 20 year ride


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The India of the AFL

Bankrolling the other teams so getting whatever they want

 

[Tarasque36]

So what would it be all things being equal.

11 home, 1 neutral, 11 away.

There's 9 melbourne teams and 9 non-melbourne teams. So maximum 5.5 games in Melbourne if all things are equal. Take into account that there's 17 games sold to markets not their own, 11 of which are by Melbourne based sides. So there's about a 60% chance we're playing 1 elsewhere.

So what's that, likelihood of 4.9 games in Melbourne?

And that's assuming all things are equal, considering we get a double up showdown no matter what, the odds drop even lower.

Can you Victorian members lose your sense of entitlement please?
The only club that should be whinging about Melbourne games are Port Adelaide, every other team was +/- 1 of what a truly fair and equitable fixture would be.

Games in Melbourne
Brisbane - 5 (3 MCG, 2 Marvel)
Sydney - 5 (2 MCG, 3 Marvel)
Gold Coast - 5 (1 MCG, 4 Marvel)
West Coast - 5 (1 MCG, 4 Marvel)
Adelaide - 4 (3 MCG, 1 Marvel)
Fremantle - 4 (2 MCG, 2 Marvel)
Greater Western Sydney - 4 (1 MCG, 3 Marvel)
Port Adelaide - 3 (1 MCG, 2 Marvel)

All things being equal? Not a reality mate.

But a fair expectation, as I mentioned - How about 5 games in Melbourne? Allows for one 'sold' game.
Pick either Launceston or Ballarat...or Darwin...or Geelong. Geelong is not Melbourne.
How about even 1 year of 5 games in Melbourne?

2022 4 games in Melbourrne
2023 we had 3 games in Melbourne
2024 4
2025 4
So, re-do your numbers with those stats.

Does the Adelaide Oval Crows membership include all 11 home games?
What if you were told 2 of those are now at Mt.Gambier.
We've made a deal with Mt.Gambier council to move 2 home games there a year.
Its still SA right? Also, let us put up the price by 20%.

I travel to at least 2 or 3 interstate games each year, so I can watch us live at least 6 or 7 times a year.
I find the TV coverage very restricted.

Is that so entitled? Just one year of 5 games here instead of all around the countryside?

 

[Tarasque36]

4 games plus finals

Worked well on the MCG in 2017 GF right?
4 games in Melbourne 2017.

This thread was to discuss the fixture.
The lack of Melbourne games, year after year is my issue with it.
We get too many countryside games, every year, after year, after year....