2025 Ladder Predictions

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JPetro83 said:
Just from watching footy over the past 35 years... seeing young teams overachieve in a year, come out the next thinking its just going to happen for them.. especially this Hawthorn group.. full of cocky arrogance and i just think (my opinion) that 2025 wont be as good as 2024 for Hawthorn. THATS ALL....
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You can not overachieve its impossible you can only achieve what you are capable off.

The second statement is interesting because it is often the reason ppl try and tear down a person or a team. "Especially this team because of you know cockiness". Didn't stop many great sportsman and women and many great teams. In fact the thing that made them great was the cockiness, the self belief, the arrogance. Lets see if this Hawthorn group can live up to its own expectations.

35 years is long time to be watching football. I have been watching for little longer. In that time you should know that hawthorn have been very successful. Its not a fluke. Supporters from all other clubs seem to think so. Its like calling for the demise of Geelong recently. Its no fluke that they keep playing finals. The culture and the people they have at the club makes it happen. Proof is in the pudding, lets see what happens next year. Thanks for responding
 

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Brisbane
Carlton
Giants
Swans
Port
Freo
Cats
Dees

Hawks
Pies
Dogs
Saints
Dons
Crows
Suns
WCE
North
Tiges

Lions Blues Giants finals locks, the rest could be a stack of other combinations for the final 8. Get ready to hear “eight-point game” more than Jono Brown says “ahh” in 2025
 
Piggy Smalls said:
GWS
Brisbane
Fremantle
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Gold Coast
Adelaide
West Coast

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Hawthorn
Melbourne
North Melbourne
Richmond
Saints
Western Bulldogs
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You could have made it believable if you just left West Coast out
 
SYD
BRI
CAR
GEE
WB
COLL
GWS
FRE

PA
HAW
ADE
MEL
STK
GC
WC
ESS
NM
RICH

PA drop out of 8 after losing 1 of their best and not improving list.
COLL back in after improving their list.
HAW over achieved in 2024 and have a much harder draw.
ESS drop down significantly.
GWS just make 8 after losing significant players.
 
Lions
Collingwood
Geelong
Dockers
Hawthorn
Carlton
Swans
Adelaide/Saints for the last spot

Pies to rebound with a mature and fit list.
Hawks are well coached with good balance across the park so not sold on them going backwards argument.
Dockers really should be top4 with their list

Saints and Crows to bolt
 
Gavin Excell said:
Lions
Collingwood
Geelong
Dockers
Hawthorn
Carlton
Swans
Adelaide/Saints for the last spot

Pies to rebound with a mature and fit list.
Hawks are well coached with good balance across the park so not sold on them going backwards argument.
Dockers really should be top4 with their list

Saints and Crows to bolt
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Kudos for labelling our list with half a dozen 30yos as mature and not best 22 nursing home team of the century
 
Pistol Night said:
Kudos for labelling our list with half a dozen 30yos as mature and not best 22 nursing home team of the century
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You've taken the Geelong mantle and said:

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This is deadset impossible, apart from Richmond/WCE/Saints/North being bottom 4 anything is possible.
But North surely has to rise next year.
So many teams ready to peak.
No one would surprise.
 
The bias on this thread is laughable.

Saw a Freo poster tip Freo to finish second. Freo are projected to finish 9th according to the bookies.

Saw a St Kilda poster tip St Kilda to finish 5th. St Kilda are projected to come 13th according to the bookies.

Let’s get serious for a second here and show some objectivity when doing your predictions.

For the record I had Melbourne finishing 13th next year.
 
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Seattle Mariners said:
The bias on this thread is laughable.

Saw a Freo poster tip Freo to finish second.
Saw a St Kilda poster tip St Kilda to finish 5th.

Let’s get serious for a second here and show some objectivity when doing your predictions.

For the record I had Melbourne finishing 13th next year.
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Guarantee there will be at least one laughable prediction that ends up spot on or possibly even understated.
 
Joao said:
Guarantee there will be at least one laughable prediction that ends up spot on or possibly even understated.
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Who would have guessed Collingwood rise from 17th to 4th in 2022, GWS and Hawthorn from 16th to 7th in 2023 and 2024
 
hawkman said:
Geelong would still call that as youthful
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Gone from oldest list in a GF 2 years ago to the 5th oldest within two draft periods.
We've passed the Hector baton on.
 
MollyBana said:
This is deadset impossible, apart from Richmond/WCE/Saints/North being bottom 4 anything is possible.
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That’s a pretty bizarre thing to do, lumping us in with those 3 teams, who won less games between the 3 of them this year than we did by ourselves (10 v 11). And who all had percentages which were at least 30 less than ours.

We won more games in just the last 8 weeks than any of them won all year and more in the last 8 weeks than two of them combined from their 46 games for the year!
 
aussierulesrules said:
That’s a pretty bizarre thing to do, lumping us in with those 3 teams, who won less games between the 3 of them this year than we did by ourselves (10 v 11). And who all had percentages which were at least 30 less than ours.

We won more games in just the last 8 weeks than any of them won all year and more in the last 8 weeks than two of them combined from their 46 games for the year!
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For some reason there is a perception out there that we are guaranteed to finish bottom 4 next year. I don’t know where that comes from? Maybe because we now have the 4th youngest list but well Ross loves when we get written off so bring it on!
 
Piggy Smalls said:
NGL, It made me physically ill to include them in my top 8.
In all seriousness though there's probably 15 teams that would be fairly bullish on their top 8 chances
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When Tasmania joins you can leave WC out.

Although it might be a Final 10 by then which means you have to put them back in, and Geelong as well. So all Melbourne based teams miss out.

Question -will only the Grand Final be played at the M.C.G?
 
Seattle Mariners said:
The bias on this thread is laughable.

Saw a Freo poster tip Freo to finish second. Freo are projected to finish 9th according to the bookies.

Saw a St Kilda poster tip St Kilda to finish 5th. St Kilda are projected to come 13th according to the bookies.

Let’s get serious for a second here and show some objectivity when doing your predictions.

For the record I had Melbourne finishing 13th next year.
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How many times are the bookies spot on?

Wasn’t Hawthorn predicted for the spoon this year?

Looking at predictions this year it seem much less biased then previous years.
 

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