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[Joao]

Over how many years?

At least 7.

Oh I agree I think he’ll sign too. But why wouldn’t he get something close to what he’s worth? I don’t see guys like Bolton, Jackson, Darcy, Fyfe up to last year, leaving big $$ on the table. Why should someone like Andy carry the can for them all?


Thats ludicrous. Even over 6 years, that’s still over $400k per annum.
Also if he was going to do that (which he’s not) he would have extended 12 months ago. He’s hardly dragging it out till the last year of his contract only to accept massive unders in any case.

Mitch Cleary was taking about this on his podcast one day last year. Someone called in with a question about players taking massive unders for team success. He basically said it’s hugely overstated and cited Geelong as an example, reckoned a few guys may have given up $50 or 70k per annum at times maybe.

All these lads have professional agents representing them and they aren’t foolish enough to do a Scottie Pippen nowadays.

This is completely at odds about other reporting about numerous players, usually ones courted by North or Saints.

In any event, if you don't think Andy would do it, you've probably never known someone like him. Those people don't operate the way 99.99% of the population do.

 

[DQ 4EVER]

Oh I agree I think he’ll sign too. But why wouldn’t he get something close to what he’s worth? I don’t see guys like Bolton, Jackson, Darcy, Fyfe up to last year, leaving big $$ on the table. Why should someone like Andy carry the can for them all?


Thats ludicrous. Even over 6 years, that’s still over $400k per annum.
Also if he was going to do that (which he’s not) he would have extended 12 months ago. He’s hardly dragging it out till the last year of his contract only to accept massive unders in any case.

Mitch Cleary was taking about this on his podcast one day last year. Someone called in with a question about players taking massive unders for team success. He basically said it’s hugely overstated and cited Geelong as an example, reckoned a few guys may have given up $50 or 70k per annum at times maybe.

All these lads have professional agents representing them and they aren’t foolish enough to do a Scottie Pippen nowadays.

So how come cellar dwellers like North struggle to attract bona fide stars?

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[King Huskii]

So how come cellar dwellers like North struggle to attract bona fide stars?

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Minow clubs

 

[more_of_bito]

I do wonder if he will regret leaving if we get Pickett to go with Bolton

Reckon he’s regretted leaving already

 

[Dockeroo]

At least 7.


This is completely at odds about other reporting about numerous players, usually ones courted by North or Saints.

In any event, if you don't think Andy would do it, you've probably never known someone like him. Those people don't operate the way 99.99% of the population do.

So how come cellar dwellers like North struggle to attract bona fide stars?

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Slightly different scenarios there.
Normally the players who are reported to turn down a move to teams like north actually want to leave their existing clubs.
Dan Houston is a good example. Reportedly north were offering him more than Collingwood. It was never actually stated how much more though and I highly doubt it was $400k per annum.
Regardless however he’d made up his mind to leave Port no matter what, for what ever reason.
When it comes to a player leaving and picking a new club, they will often take less money to play for the glamour club in Melbourne.

Others use minnow clubs to leverage better pay from their own clubs. Andrew Gaff and Dustin Martin did this very effectively in the past wii oh th North and GWS.

Also the 6 or 7 year deal thing is a factor to consider. Andy is very likely not going to be still worth $1.3 m a year or whatever it is, aged 32 to 34 for example. But if the club includes those two or three years in the original deal at a projected value of $400 or $500k a season (like Fyfe and Sonny now aged 32, a good example) it dilutes the overall cost of the deal over 7 or 8 years. But of risk for freo if he breaks down of course, but flexibility to move money across several years too.

The highest value years are the next few years for all these guys. Ages 26-30.

However the biggest clue he’s not taking massive unders is that he hasn’t signed yet and it’s the final year of the contract. Why wouldn’t he just have signed 12 months ago if what you guys suggest is true?

If Harry Perryman is really worth $950k per annum god only know what a player like Andy is worth. Significantly more without a doubt.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Reckon he’s regretted leaving already

 

[Freo Shark]

Reckon he’s regretted leaving already

I dont think it was a footy decision but a social, lifestyle one.