2025 New Coach and GM Reports

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Just ask prospective coaches. They’ve been having to get the scraps of prospects for a long time. Art Shell 2, Kiffin, Cable, Hue, Allen. Took a huge life changing contract to get Gruden and then back to McDaniels and Pierce. Zero chance they get Johnson or Vrabel.

Thats fair, im not saying its a fantastic situation with a history of hiring great coaches, just that its more attractive now that you can potentially build it your own way as a coach.

 

[Brasher]

Just ask prospective coaches. They’ve been having to get the scraps of prospects for a long time. Art Shell 2, Kiffin, Cable, Hue, Allen. Took a huge life changing contract to get Gruden and then back to McDaniels and Pierce. Zero chance they get Johnson or Vrabel.

I think you need at least 3 of the 4 top roles all aligned and bringing their own unique perspective/values/roles...those positions being owner, GM, HC and QB.

And if the 4th one is the owner than as long as they stay in the background just signing the payroll cheques than all should be fine.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

A few conclusions you can draw with Glenn refusing to interview with the Pats

1) He think they are filthy racists for sacking Mayo after one year and wants nothing to do with them
2) He knows Ben Johnson is eyeing the job
3) He thinks Vrabel is a shoe in so waste of time interviewing
4) None of the above

 

[Constantgin]

A few conclusions you can draw with Glenn refusing to interview with the Pats

1) He think they are racist for sacking Mayo after one year
2) He knows Ben Johnson is eyeing the job
3) He thinks Vrabel is a shoe in so waste of time interviewing
4) None of the above

I think it’s 3

Mayo wasn’t clearly ready to be a head coach and his game/clock management got worse instead of better as season went on.

 

[Monocle]

I think you need at least 3 of the 4 top roles all aligned and bringing their own unique perspective/values/roles...those positions being owner, GM, HC and QB.

And if the 4th one is the owner than as long as they stay in the background just signing the payroll cheques than all should be fine.

Good post.

And thats the thing, when the GM HC and QB are aligned teams generally do well, therefore the owners have no need to meddle.

Conversely when teams have a run of poor performances and or a discontent between the GM HC and QB, thats when owners get concerned and start sticking their noses in matters that they know little about.

At best the meddling owner then becomes a - Jerry Jones, or at worst a Woody Johnson.

 

[Monocle]

A few conclusions you can draw with Glenn refusing to interview with the Pats

1) He think they are filthy racists for sacking Mayo after one year and wants nothing to do with them
2) He knows Ben Johnson is eyeing the job
3) He thinks Vrabel is a shoe in so waste of time interviewing
4) None of the above

Where is option 5) All of the above.

Their disrespect of the Rooney Rule and their tokenism toward it, I suspect was a factor too.

 

[Monocle]

Mayo wasn’t clearly ready to be a head coach and his game/clock management got worse instead of better as season went on.

What you post is correct but it's bigger than that.


The mail on a lot of the Boston sports media outlets and Patriot blogs and fan sites is that Mayo had a few traits that bought himself down.

• He was sending mixed messaging to players, other coaches and ownership.

• Word is that had he a great deal of difficulty in regulation and keeping his emotions in check one of the Boston sports journos summed it up like this, ........ when they won he was on a high and bouncing off the ceiling and if they lost he was in a mood to shoot the neighbours dog"..... or words to that effect.

Both these traits got worse as the season got longer and eventually led to him losing some of the senior players and front office and ultimately ownership.

Now thats on Hand Job Bob because he appointed Mayo HC way before he was ready for the job, Mayo's appointment was made with the heart and not with the head... hence its demise.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If Miami would have done that smart thing and taken Herbert over Tua and chargers got stuck taking Tua he would be thought of in a whole different light.

Tua was a hyped prospect for years though, to the point where it was speculated teams would "Tank for Tua". Miami's owner in particular was known to be in love with him. Now sure, he ended up being overtaken by Burrow in his final year, but he was still considered a better and much safer prospect than Herbert. It's only the smart thing with the benefit of hindsight.

If you get a license to build a team your way in your time it's going to be tempting to some. Like Brasher said about Kyle Shanahan choosing the Niners when he did, Jed York was considered a head case and they had nothing at QB.

York had hired Jim Harbaugh though, hadn't he? Shows he could at least make some smart decisions.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

York had hired Jim Harbaugh though, hadn't he? Shows he could at least make some smart decisions.

He drove him out of town coz he wanted personnel control, ****ed around with Tomsula and Chip Kelly for a year each after that before realising he wasn't cut out for personnel control and gave it Shanahan.

 

[Constantgin]

Tua was a hyped prospect for years though, to the point where it was speculated teams would "Tank for Tua". Miami's owner in particular was known to be in love with him. Now sure, he ended up being overtaken by Burrow in his final year, but he was still considered a better and much safer prospect than Herbert. It's only the smart thing with the benefit of hindsight.

A lot of people liked Herbert more than Tua including Brian Flores.
Tua issues were injury concerns and the fact Sabans Alabama qbs before Tua hadn’t done well in nfl and had abit of a stigma like California before rodgers one of the reason rodgers fell was because qbs didn’t transitioned well to the pros.
The thought was Alabama level of talent made it easy to succeed at qb in college but when they got to the pros with less talent they failed.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

 

[Big Unit 30]

Now I want Rodgers to go on