2025 New Coach and GM Reports

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Disgusting racist Kyle Shanahan.

 

[Brasher]

Disgusting racist Kyle Shanahan.

Is this a post you reused when KKKyle Shanahan promoted DeMarco Ryans from within?

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Is this a post you reused when KKKyle Shanahan promoted DeMarco Ryans from within?

I thought he should have given a Thai ladyboi a chance as Niners DC that cycle.

 

[Brasher]

I can not and refuse to believe that racism is still a thing in the NFL. This is a billion dollar business requiring succes and you have no room for racists when the team is preoccupied with all the other ists.

 

[Brasher]

I thought he should have given a Thai ladyboi a chance as Niners DC that cycle.

No Green Card

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I can not and refuse to believe that racism is still a thing in the NFL. This is a billion dollar business requiring succes and you have no room for racists when the team is preoccupied with all the other ists.

Its a cringe world we live in. I hear the usual race baiters in the media saying Mayo and Pierce's sacking were racist, no, they were just bad hires to begin with, jumping from a position coach to head coach. Why did no one mention how they were given jobs despite not even being a DC? "wHy DoNt MiNorItIeS gEt A cHaNcE?"

 

[Brasher]

Its a cringe world we live in. I hear the usual race baiters in the media saying Mayo and Pierce's sacking were racist, no, they were just bad hires to begin with, jumping from a position coach to head coach. Why did no one mention how they were given jobs despite not even being a DC? "wHy DoNt MiNorItIeS gEt A cHaNcE?"

Without derailing the thread...and I'll move on from here...the consensus from the birthplace of woke seems to be that cause for cause sake has jumped the shark.

Exhibit A being the backlash of the Rooney Rule being applied in basically everything Disney does these days.

 

[Jatz]

I can not and refuse to believe that racism is still a thing in the NFL. This is a billion dollar business requiring succes and you have no room for racists when the team is preoccupied with all the other ists.

That is an incredibly simplistic view. There are biases everywhere in life, to think they don't exist at the top end (especially when the majority of owners are old white men that have been sheltered their whole lives) is very naive.

Where in the NFL requires success by the way? How many clubs really don't compete on a regular basis? Coaches may be fired easily, owners really don't move very often.

Each to their own and I likely won't challenge your thinking on this (which is absolutely fine) but to say "I refuse to believe that racism is still a thing in the NFL" - that's a very strong comment relating to what is a complex issue.

 

[Brasher]

That is an incredibly simplistic view. There are biases everywhere in life, to think they don't exist at the top end (especially when the majority of owners are old white men that have been sheltered their whole lives) is very naive.

Where in the NFL requires success by the way? How many clubs really don't compete on a regular basis? Coaches may be fired easily, owners really don't move very often.

Each to their own and I likely won't challenge your thinking on this (which is absolutely fine) but to say "I refuse to believe that racism is still a thing in the NFL" - that's a very strong comment relating to what is a complex issue.

We can take this somewhere else because bias based on an individual's characteristics outside of the control of that individual is a broad issue that, as you rightly point out, can't be tied up in a neat package and moved on.

But, recognizing that biases exist and how we go about dealing with them are 2 different subjects. We can reduce complexity by making that differentation to start. My comment above related directly to the need for the Rooney Rule in today's NFL.

Is there any team in the NFL that wouldn't hire the likes of Lion's Johnson regardless of his background? I bet there are a few owners wondering if they could move an incumbent on if they thought they could land him.

Anyway, no harm, no foul....but keen to discuss further if interested in another forum.

 

[Jatz]

We can take this somewhere else because bias based on an individual's characteristics outside of the control of that individual is a broad issue that, as you rightly point out, can't be tied up in a neat package and moved on.

But, recognizing that biases exist and how we go about dealing with them are 2 different subjects. We can reduce complexity by making that differentation to start. My comment above related directly to the need for the Rooney Rule in today's NFL.

Is there any team in the NFL that wouldn't hire the likes of Lion's Johnson regardless of his background? I bet there are a few owners wondering if they could move an incumbent on if they thought they could land him.

Anyway, no harm, no foul....but keen to discuss further if interested in another forum.

Happy to keep it more closely related to the NFL as you mentioned.

There are markets (teams) within America that I believe would not pursue someone like Ben if he had a different background. Can you really see anything other than a white coach in Dallas for instance? The Giants? Hell, Baltimore has only ever had white coaches (albeit they're a newer franchise and Harbaugh has been there forever and a day). The Giants have been around 100 years with 22 head coaches.

I agree in that you're incredibly unlikely to see any overt racism these days but I have zero doubts decisions are being made due to more than pedigree.

 

[Brasher]

Happy to keep it more closely related to the NFL as you mentioned.

There are markets (teams) within America that I believe would not pursue someone like Ben if he had a different background. Can you really see anything other than a white coach in Dallas for instance? The Giants? Hell, Baltimore has only ever had white coaches (albeit they're a newer franchise and Harbaugh has been there forever and a day). The Giants have been around 100 years with 22 head coaches.

I agree in that you're incredibly unlikely to see any overt racism these days but I have zero doubts decisions are being made due to more than pedigree.

Interesting you mention Dallas and New York....definitely don't see an issue in NY since the Jets serving the same market didn't have an issue.

Dallas can't even hire the right white guy let alone a minority. So I'll call them an exception.

Maybe I'm naive, but with recent history I'm hoping the NFL is better these days.

Case in point, my team just interviewed a minority candidate for our vacant ST Coordinator position. Given how shit we have been in that department I'm hoping this guy is a genuine needle shifter who fills me with some hope for the team and not a quota filler before they just appoint their former DC Sorenson to the role (who i dont want).