Teams 2025 Rate My Pre-Season Team

[A Bit Dusty]

Just a heads up kents if you didn't know you can copy & paste you team in one go clicking on this.

 

[JDWCE]

There are so many good midfielders in Sydney they are giving them away for a dozen Krispy Cremes.

Mills is just giving me the first fall of Fyfe feelings.

Looking great in preseason talk, etc.

Some injuries take that spark out of a player, even after good rehab and training harder then ever, they lose something. That used to make them great, like they are driving a trailer with the brake left on.

Sydney needed him to be able to be a bull on GF day vs the brissy Bears.

I think new coach and some guys who have been on the list for a while may get just as much a chance of Midfield rotation as Mills does.
Maybe Sheldrick and a few others who have been close to starting 22.

Does Sydney go and put Heeney back Fwd after how he played last year.

Then there is Warner and Gulden.

If Mills gets it back to his 2022 form then I will just adjust team to get him after his bye. Otherwise he is a pass from me.

I am also thinking about skipping another two guys in my side currently in Gawn and Oliver. It’s just a feeling here on these two that maybe “the needles broken and the damage done”!!

I can hear the commentators now “gawn taps it straight down Viney’a throat who handpasses it to Trac and watch him go to the fifty and kick a great goal, Hey did anyone else notice oliver was wide open in that passage but both gawn and viney both chose to not get the ball to him.
Maybe he is being played as a decoy, dont you mean scarecrow. He was left open in the middle of the field waving his arms out to the side like can you guys even see me here. Thats the 3rd time this quarter they have not passed the ball to an open Oliver, I have never seen that happen so many times over his whole career. “

Back to Mills. Wait and see where he lines up and what role BIG COX’y has for him. Think I may wait until after Sydney’s bye for him.

Mills is only 27. I think he’s a fair way off the gradual fall of Fyfe levels

My biggest query is where he lines up. They’d be mad to move Roberts after what he showed last year. So leads me to believe midfield. I’ve seen a fair few on swans board say he will see wing time and rotate inside

 

[South of the Yarra]

Getting edgy to see some footy. Can't wait to see the rooks and roles of players such as Mills.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Not sold on Coleman yet. Want to see when he hits the field.

 

[dabombers]

Mills is only 27. I think he’s a fair way off the gradual fall of Fyfe levels

My biggest query is where he lines up. They’d be mad to move Roberts after what he showed last year. So leads me to believe midfield. I’ve seen a fair few on swans board say he will see wing time and rotate inside

Age is a bit irrelevant.
Talk to any AFL/VFL ex-player and ask them about their bodies and the toll injuries takes on how they live now.

Some are held together with masking tape and pins and needles.

This is more so for the guys who tackle and do do more in the pack work taking bone shaking hits each week multiple times year in year out.

Some I have talked to seem to tell a similar story about how they were never the same after the injury in their 5th season. I just lost something and couldn’t get back to the same level.
And I was lucky enough to meet some of the greatest players when I worked in the Corporate boxes at the MCG and knew a few well enough to chat to well.
Like having Kevin Sheedy play jokes on me, never will forget him saying to be wary of blondes while sitting in between two of them.
Also met the Aussie cricket team and Steve Waugh when captain was an absolute arrogant Spanker. But starts with a W!!!
The best and saddest moment was walking into a box and seeing Mohamed Ali and seeing the great man shake uncontrollably. That really taught me the story about the tolls on our bodies sports can take.

It was also how I opened some conversations with some footy players to then ask them about how they felt while playing and after retirement.

Also I have an Uncle that taught me how to fish, that played in the 60’s and 70’s for the Pies who made their 100 best for 100 years list.

That is also why the average amount of games played for all listed AFL/VFL players ever is somewhere below 20 games, it is also why we celebrate milestones like 50 games, 100, 200 and hold in such high esteem the guys who make the 300 club.
Thats 300 battles to the death in the Gladiator stadium.

Having watched footy with this knowledge for 20 something years and knowing these stories.
You can or I can just see when a player is cooked, or will never be the same as they were before an injury. And it could be a major one like an ACL etc or seeing a family I grew up with Son/s who suffered from Osteitis Pubis and had to retire early. Or it could be just re-occurring hamstring/groin/shoulder injuries. Even with better medical procedures and rehabilitation programs. Some guys like Humpty Dumpty can’t be put back together again.

While others are just rubber men who bounce back like nothing ever happened. These are the lucky ones.

Is this Mills or other Midpricers like Kiddy Coleman etc. I guess we will wait and see.

 

[VainGlorious]

There are so many good midfielders in Sydney they are giving them away for a dozen Krispy Cremes.

Mills is just giving me the first fall of Fyfe feelings.

Looking great in preseason talk, etc.

Some injuries take that spark out of a player, even after good rehab and training harder then ever, they lose something. That used to make them great, like they are driving a trailer with the brake left on.

Sydney needed him to be able to be a bull on GF day vs the brissy Bears.

I think new coach and some guys who have been on the list for a while may get just as much a chance of Midfield rotation as Mills does.
Maybe Sheldrick and a few others who have been close to starting 22.

Does Sydney go and put Heeney back Fwd after how he played last year.

Then there is Warner and Gulden.

If Mills gets it back to his 2022 form then I will just adjust team to get him after his bye. Otherwise he is a pass from me.

I am also thinking about skipping another two guys in my side currently in Gawn and Oliver. It’s just a feeling here on these two that maybe “the needles broken and the damage done”!!

I can hear the commentators now “gawn taps it straight down Viney’s throat who handpasses it to Trac and watch him go to the fifty and kick a great goal, Hey did anyone else notice oliver was wide open in that passage but both gawn and viney both chose to not get the ball to him.
Maybe he is being played as a decoy, dont you mean scarecrow. He was left open in the middle of the field waving his arms out to the side like can you guys even see me here. Thats the 3rd time this quarter they have not passed the ball to an open Oliver, I have never seen that happen so many times over his whole career. “

Back to Mills. Wait and see where he lines up and what role BIG COX’y has for him. Think I may wait until after Sydney’s bye for him.

Interesting point you make about their stacked midfield.

These 4 took the lions share of CBA’s:

Grundy - 583
Heeney - 495
Rowbottom - 489
Warner - 452

Supported by

Gulden - 266
Adams - 154
McLean - 137
Parker - 95
Papley - 95
Mcinninninerny - 83



In 2021 he averaged 112.4 SC points from 18 matches attending 66% of CBA’s - 325 in total.

In 2022 he averaged 116.7 SC points from 22 matches attending 56% of CBA’s - 388 in total.

In 2023 his CBA’s were slashed (played def more?) and his output fell dramatically, only attending 209 CBA’s for the entire season. 87.7 SC average.

If he stays fit and gets into that first midfield rotation then he’s a lockity lock for mine.

Round 0 is a perfect time to get a good look at what Coxy has planned for him.

 

[cybajedi]

Not sold on Coleman yet. Want to see when he hits the field.

Hearing mixed reports on availability for round zero/one.

 

[Foxman98]

Nope. Bryan will play, Flynn won't. Bont won't make enough difference to make up for a red dot on the field
.

Bont hasn't gone under 115 for 5 years and even then it was 114.7 Daicos and Zerrett both have early byes and will literally give you an extra red dot on field for a week over Bont

 

[Foxman98]

Hearing mixed reports on availability for round zero/one.

If he plays R0 and well I will pick him if not unlikely,

Similar with Mills will see the role and go from there

 

[King_Steele]

Bont hasn't gone under 115 for 5 years and even then it was 114.7 Daicos and Zerrett both have early byes and will literally give you an extra red dot on field for a week over Bont

Would you pick Daicos & Flanders over Sinclair & Butters?

 

[Foxman98]

Would you pick Daicos & Flanders over Sinclair & Butters?

No have both Sinclair and Butters currently in my side

Flanders elevated price not sold on what his role will be
Butters early run is better then Daicos without the bye included

 

[Andrewy]

Happy new S/C season to you all. I hope you are all going well.

It begins with this for me.
Not sure I have my head around the Flex yet, but it will dawn on me.
Spent most of the $cash so any change will need a couple of moves.

So...what can go wrong from here?

 

[VainGlorious]

Hearing mixed reports on availability for round zero/one.

Both Schoenmaker and Sinn are in that similar price bracket, so could pivot to one of those if the role is there and they’re looking the goods.

Pity we don’t get a free look at either in RD 0, however.

 

[VainGlorious]

Happy new S/C season to you all. I hope you are all going well.

It begins with this for me.
Not sure I have my head around the Flex yet, but it will dawn on me.
Spent most of the $cash so any change will need a couple of moves.

So...what can go wrong from here?



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[buttox]

Nothing settled.
If I had another 1m cash I'd have The best team in here!

 

[St Steady]

so its now been locked in SDK is the new shiny ruck toy to go along with flynn?

 

[toxic]

Hearing mixed reports on availability for round zero/one.

Wont play Rd1

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

so its now been locked in SDK is the new shiny ruck toy to go along with flynn?

No, seems to be one podcaster that has suggested it.

Hard to trust anything from Geelong, especially ruck related.

 

[Lolaser]

No, seems to be one podcaster that has suggested it.

Hard to trust anything from Geelong, especially ruck related.

Very easy to just wait for R0 and see the role.

If he has it, will be tough with sharing the bye with Mills and Coleman.

 

[St Steady]

sorta makes sense for geelong to go down that path , with stanley and condude prob the worst 1-2 combo rucks in the league

 

[dabombers]

Interesting point you make about their stacked midfield.

These 4 took the lions share of CBA’s:

Grundy - 583
Heeney - 495
Rowbottom - 489
Warner - 452

Supported by

Gulden - 266
Adams - 154
McLean - 137
Parker - 95
Papley - 95
Mcinninninerny - 83



In 2021 he averaged 112.4 SC points from 18 matches attending 66% of CBA’s - 325 in total.

In 2022 he averaged 116.7 SC points from 22 matches attending 56% of CBA’s - 388 in total.

In 2023 his CBA’s were slashed (played def more?) and his output fell dramatically, only attending 209 CBA’s for the entire season. 87.7 SC average.

If he stays fit and gets into that first midfield rotation then he’s a lockity lock for mine.

Round 0 is a perfect time to get a good look at what Coxy has planned for him.

As it is still cricket season I will give my response like this.
So how is the Pitch out there looking Gilly, Well its nice and green so there should be a chance for the ball to boince of the surface with a bit of extra pace. Though there does seen to be some cracks that have opened up over the last 2, that could send the ball going anywhere.
As the moisture index appears to be rising there is a good chance we may get a storm come the last session (R0), hopefully we get some better news before than to help our team bowl them out before the end of the day (preseason)

Hey Gilly while we have you down there would you mind getting out your key and sticking into one of those cracks that have opened up, just to show us how deep they go.

Gilly responds, If you want to see how deep the crack is, how bout you get down here yourself and shove your own key into the crack.
You can definitely feel while down here the moisture is rising.

So far my team is a bit like stacked dominoes and if someone knocks one anywhere half of them fall, this is what I would have to do if I want to chose getting Mill’s.
I would probably change Ryan to Mills down back, then with that cash I would then drop a bench midfield player to move a fwd rookie with mid DPP there and go find another MidPriced FWD that I don’t really want like Bailey or MacRae or Parker and find the extra $100k by dropping either Daicos, Zerret or Butters down to find that cash.

Now I am in the position where I have now booked in another 4-6 trades just to get in 2-3 guys who are either coming back from injuries or 2 seasons of falling SuperCoach scores.

Send me a rookie,
Please send me a rookie
Right Now
Right Nowowowoooow!

I am more than happy to wait til Mill’s bye and do a correction trade than to go off of two dead rubber preseason games and one real game in R0 to make a call on him. I am going to have to see more of what Big Cox will do to his younger guys and how he is going to fix them mentally after such a poor last game of the year in 2024.

I am glad Horse stepped down as coach (I think he will have one season off then a lot of teams will come knocking at his door with a big bag of cash to give him a job at another club unless he heads home to the Roo’s where the bag might not be a full, but he could have a chance at building up a young side into something special.)
The real reason is what we have all missed since he retired is saying the battle cry of ‘Big Cox’ for at least one more year.

Welcome back Big Cox the OG uber premium SuperCoach Ruckman.

 

[dabombers]

Would you pick Daicos & Flanders over Sinclair & Butters?

My current side has all of them.
Bont, Daicos, Butters, Merret and Flanders and Sinclair.

Shoe horned them into side by picking more Rookies and less of the popular Mid-Priced Fwds, some will say under priced premo’s the same way a used car salesman will tell you,

“yeah she does have a few dings and scratches and might need some parts replaced as the K’s on the odometer have crept up, I don’t believe it has been in a crash, how about I knock off a few thousand and we call it a deal”

News then travels that this Used Car Salesman is giving fantastic deals on cars out of his lot so for the next month everyone is buying the same make and models from him.
Everything os going fine until the 3 month warranty expires and then the cars wont start and some of them even had their wheels fall off while driving down the highway.

Before the midseason byes I reckon we will see a lot of these cars at the wreckers ready to be picked apart and then compacted into scrap metal.

i Think I may be better off buying a higher priced car with all the log books and a good service history to drive around in this year.
In fact I am going to buy a few of them and hope my investments into quite a few different unknown brand new Cryptocurrencies go up in value.

 

[St Steady]

TLDR....

us dyslexics have trorble reading war and peace

 

[pincrusher]

 

[dabombers]

Bont hasn't gone under 115 for 5 years and even then it was 114.7 Daicos and Zerrett both have early byes and will literally give you an extra red dot on field for a week over Bont

Lets look at it like this over the first 10 games of the year. Say you go Bont along - With Daicos and Zerret with their byes added in.

Say they average 118 each, times 9 games (both are very capable to throw in some 80’s or over 150 scores) each that is.

Thats 2124 points over the first 10 games of the season plus the rookie replacement you bring in say he scores a 55 and a 60, and it is good enough to count towards best 18 scores in bye rounds so I will add it to these guys a team scoring total

= 2239 divided by 10 games

Gives a team average for starting those two players. Even with a bye by having them in your starting side an average of 111.95 lets just call it 112 for your side.

That is still a top 10 Midfielder average with one less game replaced by a bench rookie. Also Best 18 scores.

Lets do another one versus 2 popular mid-priced guys one with a bye and the other possibly becoming DPP’s. A future MID/FWD in say Macrae and Mills D/M
Lets give them both a bonus 10 points per game on last years averages.

Macrae = 72.8 + 10 = 82.8 x 10 games = 828 points

Mills = 73.7 + 10 = 83.7 x 9 games = 753.3 points

Total = 1581.3 + a rookie score of 60
Grand total of 1641.3 over 10 rounds.

Each players average per game
= 82 point average over first 10 rounds

plus maybe a little price rise say $90-120k for both players for the 10 point average increase.

But this is still not a real example chances are if you are skipping both Merret and Daicos you are picking up 2 Midpricers, 1 with an early bye and one without and a player like Horne-Francis

So now it is

A)!Daicos + Merrett + Rookie on-field say Elijah Hewett

VS

B) Mills + Macrae + Horny

I will give Horny a generous 10 point bump and Hewett a 20 point bump as rookie priced who missed all of last season so average taken from 13 games in 2023.

A) 10 rounds for

Daicos + Merret = 2239 points

Plus Hewett @ 45.6 in 2023 plus 20 points = 65.6 x 10 rounds = 656 pts

Total for the combo of these 3 = 2895

Bringing the 3 player avg to- 96.5 pts

Now

B) Macrae + Mills = 1641.3 points

Plus Horny @ 99.7 in 2024 + 10 pts
= 109.7 x 10 rounds = 1097 points

Total for this combo is 2738.3 over 10 rounds.

And their 10 round averages total
= 91.27

The points to your team is differnce is A) scores 156.7 more points then B) Over the first 10 rounds with 2 leas games for starting sides season Keepers. Mills and Macrae would both need to average 20 more points than last season to beat option A) and even then they are still not really Premo’s or Keepers
Maybe good bench coverage later in the year or F5 or F6 for Macrae.

If this case I gave the addition of the rookie Hewett a 20 points per game increase yet I gave Horny a very generous 10 point bump which would make it his highest average in his career.

The big point here is barring injuries,
Starting Zerret and Daicos even with an early bye is not as bad for a starting team points wise, it also save trades to be more aggressive with rookie trading to get to the other Keepers you would like to bring into your side, hopefully at a discounted price.

Sorry for all the Maths crew.

 

[dabombers]

TLDR....

us dyslexics have trorble reading war and peace

I do feel bad for your affliction.

But I am who I am and I can’t change that. And you “ can’t change me “

Look it up it is a great solo song from Chris Cornell from SoundGarden fame.

Also you only have to deal with me during pre-season with my crackpot theories and thoughts.

Once the season starts I “Ninja Vanish” in a cloud of smoke until the next pre-season.