Player Watch #26: Luke Parker - Welcome to North Melbourne - Konstanty and Parker traded for Pick 44

[Devington]

We are taking the piss if they both stay captains next year

Yeah look, I'm uneasy about some of the more radical ideas in this thread, but you're spot on with that. They both, at minimum, have some form and/or positional issues they need to work through. That's before even looking at their leadership. I could cop Jy being co-captain with someone else (and there are options!), maaaaybe even solo captain, but the idea of a third year of Silver and Jy together makes me shudder in dread.

 

[Junk yard]

Yeah look, I'm uneasy about some of the more radical ideas in this thread, but you're spot on with that. They both, at minimum, have some form and/or positional issues they need to work through. That's before even looking at their leadership. I could cop Jy being co-captain with someone else (and there are options!), maaaaybe even solo captain, but the idea of a third year of Silver and Jy together makes me shudder in dread.

What are the radical ideas? We've traded in a bloke with more experience than anyone on our list, that has captained a successful team and commands respect.

 

[Sphynx]

What are the radical ideas? We've traded in a bloke with more experience than anyone on our list, that has captained a successful team and commands respect.

You can't have Parker as captain next year.

Im sure he'd refuse it anyway.

He doesn't know the playing group, he doesn't know the club.

As good as he's been, he's in his 30's, he needs to earn the respect of his team mates at training and on the field. It is irrelevant what he did 10 years ago for Sydney in terms of that aspect. He will of course demand initial respect because of his playing career, but if he is over the hill very quickly, he shouldn't be captain.

It would have been akin to making Liam Shiels captain (not saying Parker is that cooked yet, but he needs to prove it).

Im sure he will be in the leadership group.

Personally, if it was a coaching decision, I would make Sheez the captain. He's an not a normal 20 year old.

I'd have Xerri and Chom as his Vice Captains, with Parker and Larkey the other two in the leadership group.

 

[Junk yard]

You can't have Parker as captain next year.

Im sure he'd refuse it anyway.

He doesn't know the playing group, he doesn't know the club.

As good as he's been, he's in his 30's, he needs to earn the respect of his team mates at training and on the field. It is irrelevant what he did 10 years ago for Sydney in terms of that aspect. He will of course demand initial respect because of his playing career, but if he is over the hill very quickly, he shouldn't be captain.

It would have been akin to making Liam Shiels captain (not saying Parker is that cooked yet, but he needs to prove it).

Im sure he will be in the leadership group.

Personally, if it was a coaching decision, I would make Sheez the captain. He's an not a normal 20 year old.

I'd have Xerri and Chom as his Vice Captains, with Parker and Larkey the other two in the leadership group.

Certainly not the way I see it. Harry's definitely wired differently but I don't think he'd be ready yet. Luke Parker doesn't need to earn anyone's respect in the north playing group, we've had Jy Simpkin, McDonald and a cooked Ziebell captain us to being the laughing stock of Australian sport. I would think most of the group would welcome the change.

 

[B4Bear]

Remembering the 10 year rule from 1973

The AFL's recent announcement of restricted free agency for players who have eight years' service to move to the club of their choice, revived…

www.theroar.com.au

List of North Melbourne Football Club captains - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barry Davis (footballer) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Moving to North in 1973 under the VFL's short-lived "10-year rule", which allowed players with ten years' service at one club to move to another club without a clearance,[3] Davis won North Melbourne's best and fairest in his first year at North. He went on to captain the Roos' first-ever premiership side in 1975, his final VFL season. He had played 71 games and kicked 54 goals for North before retiring. He was also named in North Melbourne's Team of the Century.[4]

Why is the captaincy even a question? It is not like we haven't done it before.

If he is the best man for the job, he gets made captain. And if the others don't like it, the Magoos are always looking for players that don't want to be in the same team.

 

[B4Bear]

You can't have Parker as captain next year.

Im sure he'd refuse it anyway.

He doesn't know the playing group, he doesn't know the club.

As good as he's been, he's in his 30's, he needs to earn the respect of his team mates at training and on the field. It is irrelevant what he did 10 years ago for Sydney in terms of that aspect. He will of course demand initial respect because of his playing career, but if he is over the hill very quickly, he shouldn't be captain.

It would have been akin to making Liam Shiels captain (not saying Parker is that cooked yet, but he needs to prove it).

Im sure he will be in the leadership group.

Personally, if it was a coaching decision, I would make Sheez the captain. He's an not a normal 20 year old.

I'd have Xerri and Chom as his Vice Captains, with Parker and Larkey the other two in the leadership group.

Barry Davis says hello.

 

[desie]

You can't have Parker as captain next year.

Im sure he'd refuse it anyway.

He doesn't know the playing group, he doesn't know the club.

As good as he's been, he's in his 30's, he needs to earn the respect of his team mates at training and on the field. It is irrelevant what he did 10 years ago for Sydney in terms of that aspect. He will of course demand initial respect because of his playing career, but if he is over the hill very quickly, he shouldn't be captain.

It would have been akin to making Liam Shiels captain (not saying Parker is that cooked yet, but he needs to prove it).

Im sure he will be in the leadership group.

Personally, if it was a coaching decision, I would make Sheez the captain. He's an not a normal 20 year old.

I'd have Xerri and Chom as his Vice Captains, with Parker and Larkey the other two in the leadership group.

Luke Parker needs to earn the respect of our playing group?

More like our playing group needs to earn the respect of Luke Parker.

 

[Grogg]

Parker can "earn the respect of the playing group" whilst he has a (C) next to his name.

Our leaders are up there with the worst performed teams of the last 100 years, the playing group needs a reality check and that can start with our leaders.

Eventually you have to take responsibility for your own performance and being borderline 22, with 1 finals appearance between the two of you says it all.

Send a message Clarko.

 

[Horizons_00]

Luke Parker needs to earn the respect of our playing group?

More like our playing group needs to earn the respect of Luke Parker.

This

We all know Harry will be our future captain and i don't want him learning of bloody Lmac or Jy

We only have Parker for a short time, let’s not **** this up.

 

[Bertie22]

Remembering the 10 year rule from 1973

The AFL's recent announcement of restricted free agency for players who have eight years' service to move to the club of their choice, revived…

www.theroar.com.au

List of North Melbourne Football Club captains - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barry Davis (footballer) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Moving to North in 1973 under the VFL's short-lived "10-year rule", which allowed players with ten years' service at one club to move to another club without a clearance,[3] Davis won North Melbourne's best and fairest in his first year at North. He went on to captain the Roos' first-ever premiership side in 1975, his final VFL season. He had played 71 games and kicked 54 goals for North before retiring. He was also named in North Melbourne's Team of the Century.[4]

Why is the captaincy even a question? It is not like we haven't done it before.

If he is the best man for the job, he gets made captain. And if the others don't like it, the Magoos are always looking for players that don't want to be in the same team.

Barry also won the B&F in 1975, our Premiership year and his last one.

 

[King Corey]

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spoke of Clarkson telling him one of the reasons he'd like him at North is to provide leadership. Darling said similar and no doubt Parker will too.

Its not hard to read between the lines and see that the current appointed leaders have been deemed inadequate.

Therefore upsetting the apple cart isn't a major consideration.

Hell, make Parker captain and Daniel vice if you want. Our repeated ability to piss up winning positions is an indictment on every long term leader at this club for the last 10 years, excepting Andrew Swallow

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[HBFlanker]

Simpkin will be captain in 2025.

And then we know who after that.

Lets get real here.

 

[Sheezel2Wardlaw]

It's time to turn this football club around. We have finally got rid of players who don't put in the work or are just shit humans.
We now need to change the leadership and set better standards.
Parker needs to be captain! I don't buy into this garbage about he needs to earn respect of the player group blah blah blah. The entire football community already respects him.

Id have Parker as captain, Sheezel as vice, Daniel, Larkey, Simpkin & Darling as the leadership group.
Get rid of this popularity vote as who should be captain, Clarko needs to put his foot down and take control.

 

[shinboner_99]

Wonder if all the list in 73 sooked up a storm because we brought in Barry Davis and made him captain….

Dench was captain the previous season. Didn't seem to worry him. Still held up the 77 cup as captain even though he was acting captain.

 

[Junk yard]

Simpkin will be captain in 2025.

And then we know who after that.

Lets get real here.

Why? He's shown nothing as captain and his leadership doesn't make up for his abysmal skills.

 

[Orange Peanut]

Things are a little bit different since Barry Davis came across.

Not saying I think LP shouldn't get it, btw. But to dismiss someone's reasoning because a guy 51 years ago did it successfully means ignoring a lot of changes in how people interact since then.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Don't agree or disagree re: Parker as potential (c).

But IMO pointing to 1973 and Davis as precedent doesn't really work in 2024.
So much has changed since, players have become professionally paid athletes, not part timers for starters.
The system and clubs have evolved massively.
I think it would be a far bigger deal than Davis coming across and grabbing the (C), for a player to do it today.

 

[King Corey]

Don't think the "instant captain" thing is any bigger a deal in 2024 than 1973.

It's not like we're talking about some archaic, outdated hazing practice like shaving a shy teenager's hair off when they join the club, like we'd have done in 2002.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Don't think the "instant captain" thing is any bigger a deal in 2024 than 1973.

It's not like we're talking about some archaic, outdated hazing practice like shaving a shy teenager's hair off when they join the club, like we'd have done in 2002.

Of course, we wouldn’t want to upset the high performance culture we have witnessed on field overseen by our much vaunted captains.

Sit quietly at the back Luke and STFU.

 

[Marstermind]

Certainly not the way I see it. Harry's definitely wired differently but I don't think he'd be ready yet. Luke Parker doesn't need to earn anyone's respect in the north playing group, we've had Jy Simpkin, McDonald and a cooked Ziebell captain us to being the laughing stock of Australian sport. I would think most of the group would welcome the change.

If Luke Parker has to earn the respect of the worst performed collection of footballers at this level in 50 years, and the current leadership which is at best ineffectual, things are worse than it seems.

I don't think he'll be captain but I wouldn't be against it. Not like he'd be beating a Melbourne Cup field for the job.

 

[Horizons_00]

Simpkin will be captain in 2025.

And then we know who after that.

Lets get real here.

Still doesn’t mean we have to agree with it

 

[shinboner magic]

Luke Parker needs to earn the respect of our playing group?

More like our playing group needs to earn the respect of Luke Parker.

Our playing group don’t know what respect means , considering the performances they’ve put out the last few yrs

 

[Horizons_00]

Our playing group don’t know what respect means , considering the performances they’ve put out the last few yrs

Even more reason why we specifically targeted players with respect and leadership

I see no point in getting older players for the end of their careers, short period of time, only to have them watch Lmac and Jy do nothing

No logic

 

[Cyber_punk]

I stand by what I said last year, if Clarko allows the players to vote in McDonald again, my interest for season 2025 will be largely killed. I really can't take it anymore.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Even more reason why we specifically targeted players with respect and leadership

I see no point in getting older players for the end of their careers, short period of time, only to have them watch Lmac and Jy do nothing

No logic

‘Hey guys, we want you to come and work under the two worst captain in the league…

Sign here’.