Past #26: Tarryn Thomas - Roo until end '24

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DarkPhoenix said:
Michael is a nutter.

Taught me for a few classes as a guest speaker in Indigenous studies.

What he fights for in most cases are great things, but the way he spins it is so left field it isn't even in the park.
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He's not the full quid and should be kept away from impressionable people.
 
Kangaroos4eva said:
Thus my concern.

The 200ft Jack Ziebell statue first.
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I think we’ve moved on to a 10,000ft mural. I’m not sure how it will go casting a shadow over Windy Hill but seeing as those bastards have moved I guess it doesn’t matter as much anymore.
 

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ChoppyGun said:
Michael isn't necessarily right but his passion is infectious. (in a good way)
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He started something called the aboriginal provisional government cos he doesn't recognise traditional Australian common law authority. Lol.

I think one of the reasons he is so full on is the sort of treatment he and his mob copped from the system, especially before (and after) dad was working cos once they chased dad out of Tassie no one took over and that was 1980.
 
DarkPhoenix said:
Michael is a nutter.

Taught me for a few classes as a guest speaker in Indigenous studies.

What he fights for in most cases are great things, but the way he spins it is so left field it isn't even in the park.
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I remember you mentioning that.

He doesn't see himself as an Australian, but as a Tasmanian (wouldn't use that name tho) Blackfella under occupation. Twenty five years ago as part of the Aboriginal Provisional Government he was offering people political asylum from the Australian government in Australia under the APG. He is a tripper.
 
DarkPhoenix said:
If he never plays another game, he will always have that.
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That was one of the greatest things I've seen on a footy field. Should have been goty.

Probably was cos of systemic racism. #BLM
 
See even the auto correct is in on it.
 
Devington said:
Not many other players had such an undeserving target placed on their back by the media and AFL house either. Wasn't so much a case of him being under appreciated by others as it was him being outright vilified. I wasn't the biggest fan of a few parts of LT's game, but by god he wasn't the sniping diver he was painted as.

Seeing Joel Selwood being lauded for everything he does has shitted me to tears for years now, because he was just as 'guilty' as LT was when it came to quite a few things, and yet where Lindsay would get screamed at for 'playing outside of the spirit of the game' Selwood would get complimented as 'smart and courageous'.

Bit offtopic, but I hadn't particularly thought about it in a while.
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Club let him down imo.

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Devington said:
Not many other players had such an undeserving target placed on their back by the media and AFL house either. Wasn't so much a case of him being under appreciated by others as it was him being outright vilified. I wasn't the biggest fan of a few parts of LT's game, but by god he wasn't the sniping diver he was painted as.

Seeing Joel Selwood being lauded for everything he does has shitted me to tears for years now, because he was just as 'guilty' as LT was when it came to quite a few things, and yet where Lindsay would get screamed at for 'playing outside of the spirit of the game' Selwood would get complimented as 'smart and courageous'.

Bit offtopic, but I hadn't particularly thought about it in a while.
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I agree with all that, but my under appreciated comment was more in the context of his forward craft and goal kicking. He did very well as a slowish small forward and he even rivalled Betts for a small period as one of the better small forwards. Loved him and Flash, they complemented each other so well. He never got that credit outside the club. Even Boomer had to fight hard for his media plaudits.
 
Kangaroos4eva said:
I agree with all that, but my under appreciated comment was more in the context of his forward craft and goal kicking. He did very well as a slowish small forward and he even rivalled Betts for a small period as one of the better small forwards. Loved him and Flash, they complemented each other so well. He never got that credit outside the club. Even Boomer had to fight hard for his media plaudits.
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In his last game for us he kicked three goals and made 5 tackles.

Yet everyone talked about him likeness a useless waste of space. I honestly can't think of an AFL player who was so vilified for doing so little wrong. He was treated like Todd Carney despite not drink driving regularly or pissing in his own mouth in public.
 
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Mjs94 said:
Anyone know if he is in full training?
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someone mentioned in the training thread him and will walker were on the bikes for most of the session so both not fully out of rehab
 

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the Ziebull said:
someone mentioned in the training thread him and will walker were on the bikes for most of the session so both not fully out of rehab
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FYI Walker was doing a hell of a lot of running and ball work, whereas Thomas was not.
 
Message to Tarryn, please follow Jy all pre season and do as he does.
 
I hate to say it, but the injury isn't exactly conducive to the improvements he had to make to the weak areas of his game. He wasn't great before the injury either.

We've now drafted 2 genuine center square midfielders, with Simpkin and LDU also on the list of players that will get game time ahead of him in there.

I think the horse has bolted in terms of just plonking him in the middle for development purposes. He's going to have to earn a move up the ground.

He's also now competing with probably the biggest logjam of young talent the club has. Zurhaar, Taylor, Garner, Ziebell, Ford, Stephenson, Mahoney for a few spots in the forward line.

I think he will find himself in the VFL at times this year, probably for the first time he's been at the club, he won't be automatically gifted a spot in the forward line irrespective of performance. He's going to have to keep his spot.

Interesting 18 months coming up for TT and how he handles it imo.
 
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Pykie said:
I hate to say it, but the injury isn't exactly conducive to the improvements he had to make to the weak areas of his game. He wasn't great before the injury either.

We've now drafted 2 genuine center square midfielders, with Simpkin and LDU also on the list of players that will get game time ahead of him in there.

I think the horse has bolted in terms of just plonking him in the middle for development purposes. He's going to have to earn a move up the ground.

He's also now competing with probably the biggest logjam of young talent the club has. Zurhaar, Taylor, Garner, Ziebell, Ford, Stephenson, Mahoney for a few spots in the forward line.

I think he will find himself in the VFL at times this year, probably for the first season he's been at the club, he won't be automatically gifted a spot in the forward line irrespective of performance. He's going to have to keep his spot.

Interesting 18 months coming up for TT and how he handles it imo.
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Pykie, what's your thoughts on him playing across half back? I think there is going to be a serious squeeze for spots across half forward.

I like the idea of him playing that receiver/distributor role back there. His kicking and decision making is elite and he could really cut teams apart. His marking above his head is also elite for someone his size.

Just have concerns about his closing speed if he is caught one out deep.
 
roos_fanatic08 said:
Pykie, what's your thoughts on him playing across half back? I think there is going to be a serious squeeze for spots across half forward.

I like the idea of him playing that receiver/distributor role back there. His kicking and decision making is elite and he could really cut teams apart. His marking above his head is also elite for someone his size.

Just have concerns about his closing speed if he is caught one out deep.
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I think we absolutely need to look at it, in general he just needs to move up the ground.

He really really struggled up forward for most of the 6 games he got in in 2020. He arguably won us the game in the second half against St Kilda along with Curtis Taylor. He then kicked two match winners against GWS the following week, but was invisible for most of that game.

We can't have a guy of his talent involved directly in the game for 2-3 minutes in total out of 100-120 minutes of a full match.

If it means he starts out in the VFL on a wing/hbf, so be it.

I think Curtis Taylor is just naturally a better half forward. He has better running patterns, runs harder, is able to consistently get the ball in a difficult position. Is just as athletic and strong overhead.

What we know about his maturity/professionalism when he came to the club, it's not a surprise that he probably had second year blues. He's a mile off being an elite athlete, he's probably back to square one now in all honesty. He needs consistent minutes in a position he needs to work hard in, not cruise around in a forward pocket for a full season. I think the VFL is the best spot for him to start tbh. I worry how he might handle the VFL grind though.


Tarryn has now moved into the the category of "luxury" commodity for the side, rather than base the side is going to be built around. We've now got a plethora of young mids. He will move further and further down the pecking order if he doesn't show regular improvement.
 
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Pykie said:
I think we absolutely need to look at it, in general he just needs to move up the ground.

He really really struggled up forward for most of the 6 games he got in in 2020. He arguably won us the game in the second half against St Kilda along with Curtis Taylor. He then kicked two match winners against GWS the following week, but was invisible for most of that game.

We can't have a guy of his talent involved directly in the game for 2-3 minutes in total out of 100-120 minutes of a full match.

If it means he starts out in the VFL on a wing/hbf, so be it.

I think Curtis Taylor is just naturally a better half forward. He has better running patterns, runs harder, is able to consistently get the ball in a difficult position.

What we know about his maturity/professionalism when he came to the club, it's not a surprise that he probably had second year blues. He's a mile off being an elite athlete, he's probably back to square one now in all honesty. He needs consistent minutes in a position he needs to work hard in, not cruise around in a forward pocket for a full season. I think the VFL is the best spot for him to start tbh.
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The other benefit of him playing full games on the wing/Half back at VFL is that he'll get his tank up to standard. I think that's the biggest thing he needs to improve so he can get involved more regularly at AFL level.
 
Pykie said:
I think we absolutely need to look at it, in general he just needs to move up the ground.

He really really struggled up forward for most of the 6 games he got in in 2020. He arguably won us the game in the second half against St Kilda along with Curtis Taylor. He then kicked two match winners against GWS the following week, but was invisible for most of that game.

We can't have a guy of his talent involved directly in the game for 2-3 minutes in total out of 100-120 minutes of a full match.

If it means he starts out in the VFL on a wing/hbf, so be it.

I think Curtis Taylor is just naturally a better half forward. He has better running patterns, runs harder, is able to consistently get the ball in a difficult position. Is just as athletic and strong overhead.

What we know about his maturity/professionalism when he came to the club, it's not a surprise that he probably had second year blues. He's a mile off being an elite athlete, he's probably back to square one now in all honesty. He needs consistent minutes in a position he needs to work hard in, not cruise around in a forward pocket for a full season. I think the VFL is the best spot for him to start tbh. I worry how he might handle the VFL grind though.


Tarryn has now moved into the the category of "luxury" commodity for the side, rather than base the side is going to be built around. We've now got a plethora of young mids. He will move further and further down the pecking order if he doesn't show regular improvement.
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Fully agree, Thomas for all his talent is no gauruntee or making it if he can’t fidn the footy more.

That said, I’m hopefull that a game plan that isn’t long down the line, might be able to involve him more.

Same with Zurhaar.
 
the big lebowski said:
Fully agree, Thomas for all his talent is no gauruntee or making it if he can’t fidn the footy more.

That said, I’m hopefull that a game plan that isn’t long down the line, might be able to involve him more.

Same with Zurhaar.
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This post and Pykie's worries me, i think one of our Tassie posters who watched him at junior level mentioned a year ago that he was over hyped. Hopefully he knuckles down and becomes a player for us, he has many tools - oh that sublime sidestep on Bont.

He's the type of player who gives us that X factor which Hollands offers but perhaps the recruiters thought we can pass on him for a genuine midfielder like Will at pick 2 because of players with similar traits like Tarrryn, Zurhaar and Taylor.
 
Pykie said:
I think we absolutely need to look at it, in general he just needs to move up the ground.

He really really struggled up forward for most of the 6 games he got in in 2020. He arguably won us the game in the second half against St Kilda along with Curtis Taylor. He then kicked two match winners against GWS the following week, but was invisible for most of that game.

We can't have a guy of his talent involved directly in the game for 2-3 minutes in total out of 100-120 minutes of a full match.

If it means he starts out in the VFL on a wing/hbf, so be it.

I think Curtis Taylor is just naturally a better half forward. He has better running patterns, runs harder, is able to consistently get the ball in a difficult position. Is just as athletic and strong overhead.

What we know about his maturity/professionalism when he came to the club, it's not a surprise that he probably had second year blues. He's a mile off being an elite athlete, he's probably back to square one now in all honesty. He needs consistent minutes in a position he needs to work hard in, not cruise around in a forward pocket for a full season. I think the VFL is the best spot for him to start tbh. I worry how he might handle the VFL grind though.


Tarryn has now moved into the the category of "luxury" commodity for the side, rather than base the side is going to be built around. We've now got a plethora of young mids. He will move further and further down the pecking order if he doesn't show regular improvement.
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Bloody hell that's a harsh assessment IMO.

I think Thomas is far better than you give credit for, plus you imply he is a lazy trainer/professional which I've never heard before.

Playing fwd last year bloody Carey would have struggled.

Sure I agree he will have to do better in future as he develops but he is still very a key commodity in our base not just a luxury who needs VFL time as stated.
 
ChoppyGun said:
Bloody hell that's a harsh assessment IMO.

I think Thomas is far better than you give credit for, plus you imply he is a lazy trainer/professional which I've never heard before.

Playing fwd last year bloody Carey would have struggled.

Sure I agree he will have to do better in future as he develops but he is still very a key commodity in our base not just a luxury who needs VFL time as stated.
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Great first year (amid the chaos of late 2018 and Scott going), poor second year (complete with COVID and injuries.) Its never happened before that a young player had a poor second year.

He seems to look up to Jy so that is a good sign. Most of what Pikey said will benefit him tho, Thomas was much better in 2019 when he was around the ball alot more.
 
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