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Certified Legendary Thread 2nd Ashes Test England v Australia June 28-July 2 1930hrs @ Lords
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Does the Man of the Match award just automatically go to a player from the winning team these days? I swear it never used to be like this.
Taking nothing away from Smith's terrific performance, and as much as I hate to say it, Stokes' innings and overall match contribution warranted the MOTM award.
Taking nothing away from Smith's terrific performance, and as much as I hate to say it, Stokes' innings and overall match contribution warranted the MOTM award.
its a tough one don't we also have to take into account conditions? chances given ect? stokes innings was amazing but needed huge amount of luck and was done in very easy batting conditions smith on the other hand made his ton to set up match in by far toughest batting conditions of the series so far.
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Cricket being taken off FTA and being shown exclusively on Sky hurt the popularity of cricket there too like it would do here if it was only shown on Fox.
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It's funny hearing Piers say that The Incident will "fire up" the Poms to win the Ashes 3-2. Wishful thinking, tossburger! I don't agree with many things that Sam Newman says but I kinda agree with him when he'd always pipe on about milestone matches not making players put in their best effort, in that they should always be putting in 100% every match. It's a similar thing here. I'm hoping that the Poms have already put in their best effort (with the exception of Bairslow) and they continue to lose, despite being apparently "fired up".
Absolutely. You can't just go by raw numbers and the emotion of Day 5, so a strong case can be made for Smith. After watching almost every ball of the Test, I would have given it to Stokes though.
Guilty as charged M'Lord
No, MOM goes to the player who most infuences the game.
smudge easily
Stokes heroics was an ultimate loss. where was he when the game was to be set up in the first innings? Batting with the best of the best conditions, he failed to give his side a chance to win without heroics in the 2nd innings...
Fail
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Absolutely this!
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Is whiskey or rum the true spirit of cricket? Discuss
Beer is currently off the table. These and other important points, including Bairstow's narcolepsy and Carey's war crimes, are up for debate
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He's a pretty big Cricket fan, he's probably one that would have a view one way or the other.
Would love us to come out in the 3rd and do something else to REALLY get under their skin.
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Who’s for political Bazball with Rishi? Voters? Tories? Anyone? | Marina Hyde
Decent read if you have 5 minutes. Journo doesn't miss!
The idea of milestone matches being games a side should win or motivate a side more had always been ridiculous, in all sports.
Did we win this test for Nathan Lyon’s 100th test in a row? Win the 3rd test for smithy’s 100th? Like why win these matches but not others?
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They'll always come up with same reason that the Carey dismissal was different. The obvious one with Bairstow in the County Cricket match is that he's standing up to the stumps, but that makes zero difference. The ball becoming dead is really more based on the movement of the keeper than anything else - it's not even necessarily a time thing, although at some point an umpire can tell the keeper the ball is dead and to start moving it back to the bowler, or if it's the sixth ball just call "over".
FWIW I think the Bairstow decision in the county cricket game is correct as well. It's quite clear he hasn't made any movement to start sending the ball back to the bowler. He's still holding the ball very much in the region of the stumps. Now he can't do that indefinitely cause that game has to continue so I think it's up to the umpire after a couple of seconds to make the call this isn't going anywhere and call out "dead ball". That didn't happen, the batsman either lost his concentration or lost his nerve (didn't look like he lost his balance) and correctly lost his wicket.
No different to Carey - at no point does he stop the motion of the ball to make it seem like the ball has concluded.
Anyway, you're point is correct. For some reason or another, there will always be something different between examples like the Bairstow one in County Cricket and Carey's the other day, and even if we find one exactly the same they'll just fall back to pre-Bazball disenlightenment.
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Here we go lads and ladettes, a similar incident although not as egregious as the Bairstow one because Johnny even scratched the crease before walking out.
The result: Mccullum and Vettori confer and agree that it is NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME to dismiss a man like this. They withdrew the appeal.
A true Sportsman is our Baz.
The result: Mccullum and Vettori confer and agree that it is NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME to dismiss a man like this. They withdrew the appeal.
A true Sportsman is our Baz.
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What is it about English batsmen being complete plonkers with the IQ of melons when it comes to game awareness?
The umpire doesn't give any signal, Morgan himself realises that play isn't dead as he moves back to the crease, but Bell decides to go for a wander without waiting for the ok. Yet Dhoni recalled him.
Why are they rewarding stupidity?
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Root and co. trying to whip up the “support” from the tetley swilling, handkerchief hat wearing, pork pie gorging, football hooligans in t north. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to riot but tripped over their bellies attempting to waddle on to the pitch.
They’re really making themselves a big target for when they come here next.
Though I am sure some will have retired by then, namely broad and Anderson. Maybe even stokes and Bairstow, or some may withdraw for personal reasons/mental health/burnout etc.
Cos playing in australia is too hard, we at least compete over there, even 2013 when we lost 3-0, we had the better of 2 drawn tests and were very close in 2 others. Even if we go onto lose this series, it’s still miles better than the white flag england raise every time they tour here.
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True, but you’re being far to sensible, this early in the morning
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3-2 has a nice ring to it, Baz you’re dreaming. I’m sure some IPL team will give him a gig.
