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It's a horrible place to visit. Anyone who reads tis and considers believeing it, DON'T!
I've never seen a blue sky in England, the place stinks, and if you go in summer it's full of bloody American tourists.
A bazball/circumspect balance?I reckon Bazball is interesting. The English just need to be more adaptive at those times when they don't need to go all out. A bazball / circumspect balance would be more effective in an even contest, and they could have been 2 nil up themselves had they been smarter in some situations.
The galvinization of the team that McCallum speaks of I'm sure is true. However, it could go either way for them, it may just as likely make them do more silly things, and lose the joy they had told us abt at the start of series.
Aust just needs to stay calm - and keep on keeping on, that is the wheel house of both coach and captain it seems.
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No it doesn't. I spent three years there (fair while ago now, mind you) and it's a fantastic, lively city brimming with history, with all of Europe on your doorstep for holidaying. The people are generally nice. Yes, the weather can be a bit grim. But I wouldn't trade that experience in for anything.Scotland and Ireland are worth visiting. London sucks. Some of the English countryside is OK. But the weather does indeed suck and you won't be able to find a decent beer on tap.
I remember hearing a conversation between two Poms who were doing a stint in my office in Perth. They were complaining about how the fish and chips here were "not soggy enough" (I s**t you not), it was too hot and sunny, and the beaches had too many waves. Encapsulates the ****ed mindset of the country.
Bazball is a PR term designed to make the opposition think there’s something more to the English battjng than: ‘throw the bat’
Plus, as others have said: combining ‘aggressive’ and ‘non-aggressive’ batting is called ‘normal’ batting![]()
The game was certainly still live at 5/193, but that isn't really the point I was making.
90% of each country's fans think the opposite to each other, the same as the Sydney and North fans did. Cricket has the added layer of the captain being able to withdraw an appeal (i.e. reverse a decision). Luke Parker didn't have that option, so it removes that aspect from consideration in footy.
In passionate sporting contests it is often only neutrals who can be totally objective, hence my interest in what other countries' cricketers/fans think.
No incident is going to be exactly the same, but they absolutely are close enough in spirit, if you'll excuse the pun, to be comparable. If anything, Bairstow waiting a lengthy amount of time for his opponent to just lift his foot while readjusting is more shifty than Carey taking an immediate shy at the stumps. Likewise, McCullum running out people congratulating teammates on milestones is shiftier again.That's not the same as the Carey/Bairstow incident, some of these old incidents that people bring up aren't the gotcha moments they think they are.
Oh yes they are.That's not the same as the Carey/Bairstow incident, some of these old incidents that people bring up aren't the gotcha moments they think they are.
They are all 'Not in the Spirit of Cricket', but apparently doesn't apply because they are English.It's the media that came up with the term Bazball not the England team, McCullum and Stokes hate the use of that term and never use it themselves.
That's not the same as the Carey/Bairstow incident, some of these old incidents that people bring up aren't the gotcha moments they think they are.
Sounds like it's got to you!A bazball/circumspect balance?
So what you’re saying is they should pick & choose when to go? Maybe block out the bad balls, have some game awareness and realise when they need to knuckle down and put a price on their wicket. Maybe they can throw the bat at the loose deliveries or when they’ve got a decent platform on the scoreboard and we have our backs against the walls?
Maybe they could even play attacking fields with catchers around the bat when a new batsmen is at the crease but push the field back and save boundaries when the batsmen is set?
That’s not bazball that’s literally cricket and how it has been played for 100 years
Bazball this bazball that * me dead it’s excruciating
When Botham was nearing the end of his career he went on the Pantomime Circuit…reckon Stuart is heading down the same pathProbably because the Australian players know the rules.
I have never wanted to agree with a comment so much. I've followed Test cricket since the 1960s, as well as having a sound knowledge of the history of the game.
I always enjoyed a comment from the Bodyline TV miniseries where Jardine defines "British fair play". To paraphrase (I cannot recall the exact quote) .... "Preached by old men and generals in board rooms, who turn a blind eye to what is necessary to win the war but are very quick to bask in the fruits of victory".
Personally, I have on occasion been annoyed by some of the things Australians have done on the cricket field, but as a nation we have "generally" accepted responsibility and apportioned blame. For example, the underarm incident. Although not illegal for the time, we still accepted it was something that never should have happened, and Greg Chappell himself admits he made the wrong call and has never offered an excuse.
Then there was the sandpaper incident. I don't know of one Australian cricket person who attempted to defend it. It was wrong and the players were punished. However, over the years I've seen England guilty of cricket atrocities such as the Headingly pitch in 1972, clear cheating and pitch doctoring, no apologies from England.
There was the time an England captain (Atherton?) had a pocket full of dirt and was rubbing it on the ball. Guilty, no penalty. Then the 2005 Ashes where Vaughan's team were using lollies to rub saliva onto the ball and creating more swing. Guilty, no penalty. No apology. People talk about Bodyline, similar to the underarm incident where the tactics were legal under the written law but accepted it probably shouldn't have happened. Nowhere have I read that any apology was forthcoming.
It has always annoyed me when England look down their noses at the behaviour of Australians when they, themselves, have been guilty of far worse. Anyone else think it ironic that Stuart Broad is so indignant about a legal dismissal when he himself is unable to accept umpiring decisions? Anyone else find it incredible that, of all people, Geoff Boycott has to weigh in on the argument of team play when he himself was the most selfish player in the game?
Anyone else astonished by McCullum's indignation when he, himself, ran out Muralitharan for leaving his ground to congratulate his partner Sangakkara upon reaching his century? And finally, anyone else find it incredulous that Bairstow, being a wicketkeeper who should know better, was guilty of trying to dismiss Labuschagne in the very same manner in the same Test?
How is the Prior one not worse? The batsman also wasn't trying to gain an advantage (wasn't batting out of his crease) and Prior waited a very long time to whip the bails off. This was all done at Lords and the crowd applauded it, not turn feral.It's the media that came up with the term Bazball not the England team, McCullum and Stokes hate the use of that term and never use it themselves.
That's not the same as the Carey/Bairstow incident, some of these old incidents that people bring up aren't the gotcha moments they think they are.
Exhibit A
It certainly helped having more runs on the board which is probably why Cummins stuck to the short ball strategy for so long. He probably felt that for them to win Stokes would've had to score 210*. To not give a chance in the style he was playing and the way we were bowling would've been very lucky.The most concerning thing to come out of the match was the way we made identical mistakes to Headingley 2019 and let Stokes dictate the run chase, rather than us managing better a situation where a recognised batsman was batting with tailenders. The only thing that bailed us out was the fact that we had more runs to play with and we belatedly changed our tactics, even though we'd had a whole lunch break (and four years) to sort things out.
There had to be at least some kind of racist and/or islamophobic undertone to what one of those old w***ers said to Usie.Inside the exclusive $85k MCC club and moment of madness that exposed England’s big problem
My favourite line.Inside the exclusive $85k MCC club and moment of madness that exposed England’s big problem
Another MCC member remarked: “I mean, he can sort out Afghanistan but he can’t sort out the Long Room.”
It's the media that came up with the term Bazball not the England team, McCullum and Stokes hate the use of that term and never use it themselves.
That's not the same as the Carey/Bairstow incident, some of these old incidents that people bring up aren't the gotcha moments they think they are.
You can probably guarantee one of the old chaps said the 'P' word to Ussie.There had to be at least some kind of racist and/or islamophobic undertone to what one of those old w***ers said to Usie.
I would have thought that if anything, Bairstow's and Foakes' stumpings are more questionable. They involved an element of deceit that was absent in Carey's stumping.I agree they aren’t the same. So is the sneaky stumping by Carey less in the spirit of cricket than Bairstows sneaky stumping?