Player Watch #30: Reece Conca

[TigerImposter]

everyone is good at U18 level or else they wouldn't get drafted

exactly ,but that's not what i was responding to in the text of the discussion
i think RL meant he was good during his time at PRO
Unless we were looking at the colored points below:

good
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adjective

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   to be desired or approved of.
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   having the required qualities; of a high standard.
   "a good eater of lasagna in parent's restaurant"
   synonyms: fine, of high quality, of a high standard, quality, superior; More please

noun

1. 1.
   that which is morally right; righteousness.
   "a mysterious balance of good and evil"
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   benefit or advantage to someone or something.
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   well.
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[RockJobster0312]

yep i've forgotten, actually i can never recall him being good except for U18 LEVEL

I remember the game versus the Saints where he was best on by the length of the Flemington straight. Or the game versus the Hawks in 2015 after missing over half the season. Or the game versus the pies in 2014 where he was one of the few to fly the flag that day. I remember his 30odd disposals versus the Lions and the 10+ tackles against the Hawks in 2014.

he was the sub in the EF so 22nd man already

Lennon, Yarran, Moore, Townsend, Ellis, Drummond, Menadue, Marcon, Rioli, Markov
would all be breathing down Concas neck
still have Hunt and Batchelor to find spots as well

Reece will need to be very fit and very good to get a game

He was sub because he hadn't played since his injury versus Adelaide, so i dispute the fact he was 22nd man.

You forget Conca has always hand inside/outside potential.

Id hope those players that you mentioned are all breathing down his - and everyone elses neck. It would be the sign of a deep and competitive team. It doesn't change the fact that he is very talented player that has proven impact at AFL level.

The last dictionary post of TigerImposter i dont deem fit to reply to. (But O did find it rather funny )

 

[TigerImposter]

I remember the game versus the Saints where he was best on by the length of the Flemington straight. Or the game versus the Hawks in 2015 after missing over half the season. Or the game versus the pies in 2014 where he was one of the few to fly the flag that day. I remember his 30odd disposals versus the Lions and the 10+ tackles against the Hawks in 2014.



He was sub because he hadn't played since his injury versus Adelaide, so i dispute the fact he was 22nd man.

You forget Conca has always hand inside/outside potential.

Id hope those players that you mentioned are all breathing down his - and everyone elses neck. It would be the sign of a deep and competitive team. It doesn't change the fact that he is very talented player that has proven impact at AFL level.

The last dictionary post of TigerImposter i dont deem fit to reply to. (But O did find it rather funny )

so 3 games makes him good?Tambling played 3 good games.
i think we need consistency b4 we can claim he's good.this is what i want from Reece.he needs to get fit and then string some games together bc atm he's behind the 8 ball

 

[tunksy]

so 3 games makes him good?Tambling played 3 good games.
i think we need consistency b4 we can claim he's good.this is what i want from Reece.he needs to get fit and then string some games together bc atm he's behind the 8 ball

Hes played a lot more than 3 good games. Dont be a smartass rockjobster was just highlighting how good his absolute best is.he didnt even include all his best games imo. (See cats game for starters). If fit he is best 22 and will be picked.

Last year was just a bad year with injury. Before that hes played plenty of games. He does however need to get more consistent in his performance. Minimise the gap between his best and worst.

Oh and his worst is still better than our raw draftees.

 

[RockJobster0312]

so 3 games makes him good?Tambling played 3 good games.
i think we need consistency b4 we can clam he's good.this is what i want from Reece.he needs to get fit and then string some games together bc atm he's behind the 8 ball

He's had more 'good' games then those three I mentioned, they were the three that immediately came to mind. For the sake of time and space i thought it was sufficient.

I dont disagree that consistency is key - but its hard to show consistency when your so often injured - which is kinda my point.

 

[TigerImposter]

Hes played a lot more than 3 good games. Dont be a smartass rockjobster was just highlighting how good his absolute best is.he didnt even include all his best games imo. (See cats game for starters). If fit he is best 22 and will be picked.

settle down mate he's a long way off from being good is the point.So we're going to add another 3-4 games to the list?
See you added the old IF fit words which is what has hampered his career.He's in the mix,but this thread wouldn't exist if he didn't have a fitness issue,but in reality he does and you have verified this
If I weighed 44 kilos i could have been a jockey.

 

[TigerImposter]

He's had more 'good' games then those three I mentioned, they were the three that immediately came to mind. For the sake of time and space i thought it was sufficient.

I dont disagree that consistency is key - but its hard to show consistency when your so often injured - which is kinda my point.

IT'S EVERY BODIES POINT

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

he was the sub in the EF so 22nd man already

Lennon, Yarran, Moore, Townsend, Ellis, Drummond, Menadue, Marcon, Rioli, Markov
would all be breathing down Concas neck
still have Hunt and Batchelor to find spots as well

Reece will need to be very fit and very good to get a game

Has Ellis and Townsend to worry about from that group (most likely partner them). The rest won't come close to getting a game over Conca provided he can remain fit.

I remember the game versus the Saints where he was best on by the length of the Flemington straight. Or the game versus the Hawks in 2015 after missing over half the season. Or the game versus the pies in 2014 where he was one of the few to fly the flag that day. I remember his 30odd disposals versus the Lions and the 10+ tackles against the Hawks in 2014.



He was sub because he hadn't played since his injury versus Adelaide, so i dispute the fact he was 22nd man.

You forget Conca has always hand inside/outside potential.

Id hope those players that you mentioned are all breathing down his - and everyone elses neck. It would be the sign of a deep and competitive team. It doesn't change the fact that he is very talented player that has proven impact at AFL level.

The last dictionary post of TigerImposter i dont deem fit to reply to. (But O did find it rather funny )

My favourite Conca game is the one versus GWS last year. Was very clean below his knees and weaved his way through traffic all game. Get him fit and he will top 10 player at the club.

Funny that posters pot Conca when in reality he outperforms the majority of his team mates when fit. Just that because he was pick 6 and Heppell went a few picks later, posters want to pot him.

 

[Tango67]

let him string 5 dominant games in the 2's first
would rather play kids in front of him

 

[Tango67]

Yarran, Ellis, Moore, Lennon and Townsend all before him
Batchelor, Drummond, Hunt were all playing when he wasnt

he is a long way back with a lot more talent in the squad[/QUOTE]

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

Poor bastard has no luck with injuries which is probably clouding people's opinions on him. When fit and he seems to (hopefully is) be past most of the injuries. He's a real good player when fit, should get a good preseason into him and be good to go

 

[Tango67]

every year we hear the same story if he is past his injuries and every year he gets injured
that's not potting the guy it's stating the facts

 

[richoatthedisco]

he was the sub in the EF so 22nd man already

Lennon, Yarran, Moore, Townsend, Ellis, Drummond, Menadue, Marcon, Rioli, Markov
would all be breathing down Concas neck
still have Hunt and Batchelor to find spots as well

Reece will need to be very fit and very good to get a game

Hunt and Batch played in the EF. Hunt will lose his spot to Yarran. Batch will hopefully face a challenge from Broad, the other Moore, and maybe even Chol.

Of the team that played in the EF, Newman is gone, to be replaced by Lennon. Conca and Lambert are the others on thin ice. I expect at least one of Townsend and Moore to come in to the side. I prefer a fit Conca to Lambert. Lambert did some good things last year but Conca has done better at a younger age. Don't forget, Conca in 2016 will be the age Lambert was in 2015. Other than goals, Lambert's 2015 averages, at 23, matched what Conca did at 18.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Is he injured again? cbf reading the thread.

 

[docko911]

I'd like to see him play 20+ games of football next year VFL or AFL.

He's definitely good enough to be in our best 22, and if he is fit and can't get a game we have really improved our depth.

 

[RockJobster0312]

let him string 5 dominant games in the 2's first
would rather play kids in front of him

Would rather we put the best 22 players on the park that will most likely produce a result. Also Conca will turn 24 halfway though next season so he isnt exactly old.

Yarran, Ellis, Moore, Lennon and Townsend all before him
Batchelor, Drummond, Hunt were all playing when he wasnt

he is a long way back with a lot more talent in the squad

[/QUOTE]

Yarran yes. Everyone else are not definitely 'before' him.

Also there are was players that will play you want - dont see how Batchelor, Drummond or Hunt have anything to do with it.

 

[bananatigz]

Are you guys seriously suggesting Reece has never played a good AFL game? Like cmon

 

[TigerImposter]

almost every post quotes
IF FIT
OR
WHEN FIT
Common theme which is why we are concerned about him
One poster believes people are potting him bc these concerns are raised, yet in the same post this poster raised the same concerns on three occasions
It's the reason why this thread exists and all of us want to see him on the park
I don't believe this has to do with Heppell as it has hardly been raised of late.
I just continue reading IF FIT AND WHEN FIT ,Heppell can go and get xxxxxx

 

[TigerImposter]

Are you guys seriously suggesting Reece has never played a good AFL game? Like cmon

no.Where did you read this?oh on the Carlton forum

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

let him string 5 dominant games in the 2's first
would rather play kids in front of him

He is so far above that level its not funny. Let the kids play five dominant game in the two's, with the exception of Ellis I doubt any would be capable of doing so thus both will be best 22 next season.

Yarran, Ellis, Moore, Lennon and Townsend all before him
Batchelor, Drummond, Hunt were all playing when he wasnt

he is a long way back with a lot more talent in the squad

Of those he is competing with Ellis, Moore and Townsend and is ahead of those three on performances to date. Ellis is a gun and will most likely go past Conca once he too strings a few games together, the other two are competing against one another for big bodied spot in midfield. Essentially there is a spot for Ellis and Conca in the midfield, whilst Townsend and Moore are fighting off for the last spot.

every year we hear the same story if he is past his injuries and every year he gets injured
that's not potting the guy it's stating the facts

A lot of young players struggle with injury in the early part of their careers and eventually get over them. Hopefully for Conca sake he is able to get over them.

 

[RobsJourney]

Is he injured again? cbf reading the thread.

Nah he's fine, looks trimmer too.

 

[Calcium Man]

let him string 5 dominant games in the 2's first
would rather play kids in front of him

Have you seen him at VFL level? Half fit he is a class above

 

[THE_GUN]

Im over conca completely
Bith in his ability to play at a high level consistantly as well as his ability to remain injury free

Would be suprised if he is on the list in 2018

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Love ya Reece... hurry back!!!

 

[tunksy]

settle down mate he's a long way off from being good is the point.So we're going to add another 3-4 games to the list?
See you added the old IF fit words which is what has hampered his career.He's in the mix,but this thread wouldn't exist if he didn't have a fitness issue,but in reality he does and you have verified this
If I weighed 44 kilos i could have been a jockey.

If fit. Hes been fit for the majority of his playing career BAR THIS YEAR. His inconsistentcy between run of games has been his issue. His best is very good. His worst is still good and better than our draftees