3rd Ashes Test England v Australia July 6-10 1930hrs @ Headingley

[Linda Lovelace]

Incidents and confusion involving dead balls are incredibly rare as is this particular mode of dismissal. Id say the rules are therefore very clear and don't provide the drama and debate you seem to think happens so often.

This was a potentially Ashes test deciding incident. They don't have to happen every day to be a problem.

 

[Colonial]

Gifted one, how the hell does that class as a stumping lol

Hit the stumps while he was out of the crease. A stumping.

 

[Santana]

It's a strong squad, you can make a decent case for picking any of the back up bowlers.

I am tempted to play Neser to be honest

 

[Colonial]

This was a potentially Ashes test deciding incident. They don't have to happen every day to be a problem.

Guess he should of stayed in his crease.

 

[Gough]

I am tempted to play Neser to be honest

I don't hate the idea of five quicks if the pitch looks tasty either although I'd be stunned if it happened.

 

[Woody15]

This was a potentially Ashes test deciding incident. They don't have to happen every day to be a problem.

I agree. Bairstow should have been much more aware given the gravity of the situation. Not a rules problem. A Bairstow problem.

 

[Hamingja]

Wonder if they will give Hazlewood a rest or go for the kill shot



Khawaja
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Green
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Boland
Murphy

I think that will be the team.

Doubt they would risk Hazelwood on the quick back up given his injury issues over the last few years.

I reckon the Starc > Boland > Hazelwood rotation has been the plan since before they went over and they haven't had any reason to change course.

If the poms put up a complete seamer maybe they would go in with the 4 quicks and not pick Murphy but I doubt it.

 

[Soggy2112]

MS Dhoni showing us all how it should be done.

Difference there is that the fielder was acting as if the ball had gone for four and was dead.

Under the newish fake fielding rule that’s probably penalty runs.

Carey didn’t do anything like that, he just picked the ball up and threw it at the stumps.

 

[damochandler]

Difference there is that the fielder was acting as if the ball had gone for four and was dead.

Under the newish fake fielding rule that’s probably penalty runs.

Carey didn’t do anything like that, he just picked the ball up and threw it at the stumps.

He wasn’t acting, he landed outside the rope

 

[Linda Lovelace]

I agree. Bairstow should have been much more aware given the gravity of the situation. Not a rules problem. A Bairstow problem.

It is a both problem. Bairstow was an idiot, the wording of the rules is sh*t and could be easily fixed, and Cummo was a bit of a dog, as other captains in the same situation would have let him off.

 

[the_interloper]

I don't hate the idea of five quicks if the pitch looks tasty either although I'd be stunned if it happened.

Yeah having Green means we can play a spinner every time basically. I’d love to get Neser in the side though, but geez Boland would be stiff

 

[Sir_Loin]

The law is poorly written irrespective of which side of the coin ol' Fanta balls is on.

If it was not out would it have been within the rules?

 

[Pistol Night]

It is a both problem. Bairstow was an idiot, the wording of the rules is sh*t and could be easily fixed, and Cummo was a bit of a dog, as other captains in the same situation would have let him off.

Let him off? This is the Ashes. Not Christmas Day backyard cricket after 13 beers. You do what’s within the rules to win. We did that

 

[damochandler]

It is a both problem. Bairstow was an idiot, the wording of the rules is sh*t and could be easily fixed, and Cummo was a bit of a dog, as other captains in the same situation would have let him off.

Other captains wouldn’t have let him off. Stokes wouldn’t have, it’s rubbish to say other captains would let him off

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

It is a both problem. Bairstow was an idiot, the wording of the rules is sh*t and could be easily fixed, and Cummo was a bit of a dog, as other captains in the same situation would have let him off.

No way Stokes would have walked back that if the roles were reversed.

Zero chance.

 

[Soggy2112]

It is a both problem. Bairstow was an idiot, the wording of the rules is sh*t and could be easily fixed, and Cummo was a bit of a dog, as other captains in the same situation would have let him off.

Who are these captains?

Socials are currently full of examples where the captain (many of them English), has not let the batter off.

Stokes himself had a similar one last summer and didn’t call CDG back.

 

[allrighty]

Bazball is a myth.

It's absolutely nothing that the Australians weren't doing 20 years ago when they had guys like Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Gilchrist and Hussey in the top order. Hayden would routinely walk straight at the opposition quicks and club them to all parts. Gilchrist, when he retired held the Test record for most 6's in his career.

The Poms are trying to con everyone that they have invented a new way of playing cricket. They haven't. It's just an inferior version of what we perfected, carried out irresponsibly as they don't have the quality in place to pull it off.

It is also high risk with marginal reward. This is a modern trend in sport. Go as hard as and when it inevitably stuffs up, you can stick your chest and say well at least we are being positive and attacking and blah blah blah.

Same in AFL without mentioning teams so we go OT ...

 

[allrighty]

Or Broad and Root, as they bowl to Head...lol.

Where is tongue?

 

[Woody15]

Let him off? This is the Ashes. Not Christmas Day backyard cricket after 13 beers. You do what’s within the rules to win. We did that

Imagine the "banter" from the English fans if Cummins had let him back and they went on to win. Im sure they'd be gracious.

 

[Great8]

Hit the stumps while he was out of the crease. A stumping.

AND
It was only the wicket keeper involved
AND
He wasn’t attempting a run.
As soon as he attempts a run it’s deemed a run out

 

[kickazz]

No way Stokes would have walked back that if the roles were reversed.

Zero chance.

Yeah, if you look at his actual quotes he just says he'd have to think about it, blah blah.

If it were reversed the poms would have accepted the wicket with glee.

 

[Jamurp]

Love all the positive and frankly delusional chat coming out of the England camp, the reality is: No keeper, no spinner, Moeen Ali, Ollie Robinson trundlers, Zak Crawley, ageing pace attack, specialist captain.

2-0, let's make it 3.

 

[Colonial]

AND
It was only the wicket keeper involved
AND
He wasn’t attempting a run.
As soon as he attempts a run it’s deemed a run out

So?
If I walked out of my crease and the ball hits the stumps I’m gone.

 

[Kuuz]

This is all that needs to be said.

Really excited to see how Murph goes - he will probably be targeted, but he's a sharp lad, and has a lot of clever deliveries to his kit!

 

[HTPunter]

If Carey doesn’t have a ping at the stumps very first ball Bairstow faces I’ll be very disappointed. Even just a cheeky roll so we don’t lose a run I’d love. Think it would upset the English to not back down and play “apologetic” cricket so full steam ahead.