Retired #43: Dean Rioli - 100 and out

Should Rioli take the rest of the season off?

  • Yes, bring him on next year!

    Votes: 7 35.0%

  • No, get your 100 and say goodbye.

    Votes: 13 65.0%
  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .

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I'd play him for 2 games then give him teh rest of the season off. that way if he gets injured big time before next season he can retire knowing he got to 100 games
 
Rioli is contracted for 2007 is he not ? therefor those who are calling for his spot to be given to a younger player are jumping the gun. He would have to retire or be paid out.
 
As much as Id love to see him play on, I think the pace of the game will definitely cause him unnecessary embarrassment. I seriously doubt he can stand the rigours as the game becomes much faster in the shortest amount of time Ive witnessed since discovering footy as a kid.
Good luck if he does, but I just dont see it happening. Rather give his spot to a kid possibly on the up. Rioli could definitely continue his work with young aboriginal footballers entering the AFL.
 

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Crave said:
As much as Id love to see him play on, I think the pace of the game will definitely cause him unnecessary embarrassment. I seriously doubt he can stand the rigours as the game becomes much faster in the shortest amount of time Ive witnessed since discovering footy as a kid.
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His footy brain will more than compensate for the increased pace of the game. Ala Jobe Watson.

We saw in the two games he did play this season that his pace is still good enough. He's not slow, it's just a matter of whether his body can handle the requirements of repeated efforts and running both ways.

I think he needs to play this year to see if he still has what it takes going forward. But it is pleasing to see he is having a crack.
 
Dean Rioli is not capable of consistently playing at the highest level. You need to have the ability to run which he doesnt have. This year has to be his last year, we should give him his 2 games and wish him well. I would like to see hirdy and deano play their last game together in round 22. IMO we need to make at least 7 changes to our list to fully utilise draft and PSD and promote Jolley.
Henneman, Ramanauskas, Rioli, Hird, Cartledge, Reynolds and Bolton?
Peverill, Heffernan, Dyson and Solomon would also be looked at I guess.
This of course doesnt allow for possible trades. Delisting 7 players and upgrading 1 rookie would give us picks 1, 18, 19, 35 and 51 in the draft plus pick 1 in PSD plus upgrading Jolley. Pick 51 in this draft shapes up as a pretty handy pick so I think we will delist/trade at least 7 players.
Thoughts ??
 
Why would Dyson be a delisting possibility but Jolley a promotion definite?

I'm a big Ben Jolley fan, but if Dyson is a maybe, so is Jolley.

And given Hird is on the external vets list, that wouldn't actually free up an extra list space. Unless of course we move Fletcher onto it.
 
Longy413 said:
His footy brain will more than compensate for the increased pace of the game. Ala Jobe Watson.

We saw in the two games he did play this season that his pace is still good enough. He's not slow, it's just a matter of whether his body can handle the requirements of repeated efforts and running both ways.

I think he needs to play this year to see if he still has what it takes going forward. But it is pleasing to see he is having a crack.
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Pretty hard to prove if he's up to it in 2 games of footy, albeit against good opposition. We finish off against the Dogs.

If the ball were to hit the ground, I wouldnt imagine he'd have time to blink before they run it out of there....assuming they stick him in the forward line.

Wouldnt think its a great idea to have him running out of half back against them...Johnson alone is in stellar form right now. I will add though that I enjoyed seeing a picture of him running with Lloydy. I wouldnt mind seeing him next season...I dont think as a footballer, Id like to go out on such a terrible season.
 
Crave said:
...I dont think as a footballer, Id like to go out on such a terrible season.
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That's true but what the club has to do is what's best for the club and not the individual.
It may have been different in sucessful eras but where we are now we need every advantage we can get.

I have no problem with doing the right thing for him if he can get on the park, or bench even for 2 games but as for next year.....NO WAY!!!!!!
 
ant555 said:
Rioli is contracted for 2007 is he not ? therefor those who are calling for his spot to be given to a younger player are jumping the gun. He would have to retire or be paid out.
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Well, Rioli hasnt given any indication whatsoever as to which way he's heading
and with the welath of young players we have getting a game, its not hard to get excited about seeing someone fresh and young in our line up.....something Dean hasnt really given us in quite awhile..no fault of his own ill admit.
 
Crave said:
Well, Rioli hasnt given any indication whatsoever as to which way he's heading
and with the welath of young players we have getting a game, its not hard to get excited about seeing someone fresh and young in our line up.....something Dean hasnt really given us in quite awhile..no fault of his own ill admit.
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IMO it is his fault as he keeps himself in terrible condition and to put it bluntly, he is fat.
Theres no way to tell for sure but i believe that a lot of his injury problems stem from him carrying around too much weight.
 
Merv Neagle said:
IMO it is his fault as he keeps himself in terrible condition and to put it bluntly, he is fat.
Theres no way to tell for sure but i believe that a lot of his injury problems stem from him carrying around too much weight.
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I agree he IS fat by AFL standards, however, if he could have a perfectly good knee for one season, Id bet he could trim a stone off his weight.

Also keep in mind, its actually medically proven that genes play a MASSIVE part in anyone's body structure. You can work all you want, but if your have a history of carrying excess weight in the thighs, hips or lower abdominals....you'lll never EVER get rid of that luggage entirely.

I know this due to having lost almost 60 pounds a few years ago and still trying to firm up ever since...
He came to the club as stocky as he's always been, and with all the professional and scientific training they undertake, you'd think he wouldve been able to shake off any stubborn weight he carries.
The harder he works, the more stress on his knees, the less time he can utilise to continuing improving his body. From memory, all the Riolis are kinda thick around the lower areas of their bodies.
 
Longy413 said:
Why would Dyson be a delisting possibility but Jolley a promotion definite?

I'm a big Ben Jolley fan, but if Dyson is a maybe, so is Jolley.

And given Hird is on the external vets list, that wouldn't actually free up an extra list space. Unless of course we move Fletcher onto it.
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You are singling out Dyson where as I meant to try and arrive at a number of delistings required. Fletcher would be moved on I guess. Jolley is more of a logical replacement for Pev or Heff rather than Dyson judging on player type.
 
Speaking to a friend last night about Rioli (this guy is an Essendon lunatic) and he seems to think that If Rioli were to retire and maintain a close relationship with the club, he has many close ties with established/up n coming aboriginal footballers around the country.
Relying on the father/son rule would be a waste of time seeing as the league appears to be leaning towards getting rid of this exception to drafting in the future IMO.
Rioli could in fact assist us in locking in some of the best indigenous talent in the country for years to come, let alone any that arent particularly happy in their surrounds currently. Pickett would definitely have been more than useful in our colours.
 

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I have been a massive fan of Dean Rioli since i saw at Full-Forward for the Essendon Reserves in 1998, I still am a massive fan.

IMO he is the most skillful player i have seen, i find it hard to think of a time where he has not hit a team mate on the nipple, or done somethnig rediculous to get to the ball first, or help out a team mate with a shepherd.

Interested to see hear what other people think about him?
 
I can't remember excatly when, but there was a game where he ran back with the flight of the ball and took a mark which many others would of pulled out of off. In one of the papers the headline said something like "Rioli has guts, but also courage." It was gold.
 
Very talented. Wasted a good part of his career but i really do feel for him for his past few years as he has worked hard to try and rectify his mistakes of the past but injuries have killed off his efforts.
 
Crave said:
The most skilful unfit player after Allen Jakovich at the end of his career
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I know he wasted a good few years in the middle of his career but i do belive some are being very harsh judging his efforts in the last few years. Yes no results but i doubt anyone could get fit with continual hamstring and knee injuries.
 
He is one the most creative and skillful players on our list.
He creates just as many goals as he scores. His delivery to our forwards is exceptional.
I rate him as one our most important players when he is fit, which has not been that often as we all are aware of.
Simply he just has that special magic which many of the indigenous players seem to have, he may even be on top of this magic pile.
He deserves to get to 100 games, I hope he can actually survive 2 games in a row and then get busy breeding.
Well done to Kev for looking after him.........
 
ant555 said:
I know he wasted a good few years in the middle of his career but i do belive some are being very harsh judging his efforts in the last few years. Yes no results but i doubt anyone could get fit with continual hamstring and knee injuries.
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I think what bugs me most about Rioli is that seeing as he's in this vicious cycle of injuries hampering his preparation...theres a young kid who misses out an opportunity at thie time of year when we're virtually playing dead rubbers.
 
CharlieG said:
From an outsider's perspective he is probably the best unfulfilled talent in the AFL in the past ten years. I realise that's both a compliment and an insult.
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It is on the mark, he has without a doubt wasted a good portion of his career with poor preperation. It is just too bad that by time the penny dropped his injuries have caught up with him.
 
ive seen him do many good things and i must say, im a fan. i think hes very skillfull and sometimes when he uses his body the way he should he can bring a real physical presence to the team which is an extremely good thing.
 
CharlieG said:
From an outsider's perspective he is probably the best unfulfilled talent in the AFL in the past ten years. I realise that's both a compliment and an insult.
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Doesn't matter. His son's are going to be better.
 

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