Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 15: "Like a miracle, it will disappear."

[ShanDog]

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Joe Biden, 46th President Thread is over there ->

Presidential Election Aftermath thread is here:

US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

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[CD Xbow]

Pretty damning, isn't it, and still they insist on imposing their way of life on the rest of the world as much as they can.

As far as empires go, it's not a bad one. Better than paying tribute to a 21C version of the middle kingdom, though many may disagree. Unfortunately as things are turning out, they may be our only options.

 

[Barrysballs]

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[Financialpanther]

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Damn - no Kirste Alley?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

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Next week is Star Wars theme with Mark Hamill and Baby Yoda

 

[Barrysballs]

Damn - no Kirste Alley?

So hope they rock up in uniform

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[Mick F]

Really, I saw him yesterday buying a milkshake with his grand daughter......

Normal granddads prefer spending time with their grandchildren over watching TV, which you do if you have no friends.

 

[Financialpanther]

So hope they rock up in uniform

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There has to be some other good movie themed electoral events - maybe the cast of "Happiness" should consider something..

 

[Deaneus!]

We know he's a coward. Dodged military service four times. The guy has no redeeming features. None.

This is a total lie. It was FIVE times.

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Some wag on Twitter said all Biden has to do to win is to promise to fund the Avengers Initiative

 

[Barrysballs]

There has to be some other good movie themed electoral events - maybe the cast of "Happiness" should consider something..

Already have Vernon Jones as Captain Covid

Maybe Trump can do a Guardians of the GOP event with Chris Pratt ?

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[Financialpanther]

Already have Vernon Jones as Captain Covid

Maybe Trump can do a Guardians of the GOP event with Chris Pratt ?

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Surprised he hasn't teamed up with James Woods for a White House Down event.

 

[Mick F]

Hes on the good gear, I agree.

Is talking for 90 minutes and sitting on an aeroplane watching TV that demanding??

He does no preparation, reading, chairing of meetings, checking of emails, policy development - let alone housework, babysitting the grandkids, gardening, carrying suitcases or exercise.

 

[60 Yards Out]

He is 74, where the hell does he find the energy to campaign like he does. Love him or hate him you have to in awe of his energy levels.

He’s got energy left over from not doing the things he’s meant to be doing, like governing.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Trump "I love Church, I love going to church churches"

Also Trump... can not quote a single passage from the bible

“It’s very personal, I’m not going to get into that, I always say to my people it’s my second favourite book, ‘The Art of the Deal’ a great book, but I don’t want to get into that”.
Lolsa

 

[Maggie5]

Perhaps the economy does matter. As Trump says, the cure cant be worse than the cause and prior to covid every economic metric was trending to the good.

It does matter yet voters are pointing to Trump for being a good manager of the economy, but:

Total household debt in the United States, including mortgages, auto loans, credit card and student debt, climbed to $14.30 trillion in the first quarter of 2020, eclipsing the previous peak at the height of the great recession in Q3 2008 by $1.62 trillion in nominal terms. (this is before the virus hit)

The U.S. national debt hit a new high of more than $27 trillion in October 2020.

That's greater than the annual economic output of the entire country.

Throughout the years, recessions have increased the debt because they have lowered tax revenue. At the same time, Congress has spent more to stimulate the economy. Military spending has also been a big contributor, as has spending on benefits such as Medicare. In 2020, spending to offset the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic also added to the debt.

Although investors aren't currently worried about a U.S. debt default, that could change once the pandemic ends. In that case, ways to reduce the debt, such as raising taxes or cutting spending, will need to be considered.

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt grew to a record $34 trillion by the end of 2023. It was just $16 billion in 1930.

www.thebalance.com

End of Fiscal Year	Debt (in billions, rounded)	Debt-to-GDP Ratio	Major Events by Presidential Term

2016	$19,573	104%	Brexit
2017	$20,245	104%	Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018	$21,516	104%	Trump tax cuts
2019	$22,719	106%	Trade wars
2020	$26,477 (at end of Q2)	136%	COVID-19 & CARES Act

 

[60 Yards Out]

Totally agree, but there has been a lot of hand wringing (including on the Democratic side) that "oh Biden needs to be out there, he needs to be gee-ing up the voters".

He's followed the advice that if the other guy is constantly shooting himself in the foot, you just keep out of the way.

As Napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

 

[Blue1980]

Could also be a way of telling Democrat voters “see you don’t need to vote it’s in the bag” next minnit some battleground states don’t flip

It usually works the other way, people don’t want to be backing a loser, if their undecided that is.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Trump, the Coronavirus, and What Happens When Strongmen Fall Ill

The President’s claims of a miraculous recovery from COVID-19 are the latest in a tradition of authoritarian leaders who have used their virility and medical crises to manipulate public sympathies.

www.newyorker.com

 

[swingdog]

As Napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

THAT was the quote I was thinking about. Much better than my clumsy iteration.

 

[jatz14]

Ha ha you do wonder. Meanwhile Biden has not left home for days.

Trumpist love to point out how Biden never leaves home, even on those days he visits 3 states.

Clever guy that Biden.

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[Satan]

John Fogerty to Donald Trump: This Cease and Desist Order Ain’t Fortunate, Son

“He is using my words and my voice to portray a message that I do not endorse.”

www.google.com.au

 

[60 Yards Out]

THAT was the quote I was thinking about. Much better than my clumsy iteration.

It was just a quirk of timing... I happened to have it front of mind — can’t imagine why

 

[Royces Hart]

John Fogerty to Donald Trump: This Cease and Desist Order Ain’t Fortunate, Son

“He is using my words and my voice to portray a message that I do not endorse.”

www.google.com.au

How long until Trump calls him a loser?

 

[Nikita Blue]

John Fogerty to Donald Trump: This Cease and Desist Order Ain’t Fortunate, Son

“He is using my words and my voice to portray a message that I do not endorse.”

www.google.com.au

Like Reagan using Born in the USA. They obviously never listen to the lyrics.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

It does matter yet voters are pointing to Trump for being a good manager of the economy, but:

Total household debt in the United States, including mortgages, auto loans, credit card and student debt, climbed to $14.30 trillion in the first quarter of 2020, eclipsing the previous peak at the height of the great recession in Q3 2008 by $1.62 trillion in nominal terms. (this is before the virus hit)

The U.S. national debt hit a new high of more than $27 trillion in October 2020.

That's greater than the annual economic output of the entire country.

Throughout the years, recessions have increased the debt because they have lowered tax revenue. At the same time, Congress has spent more to stimulate the economy. Military spending has also been a big contributor, as has spending on benefits such as Medicare. In 2020, spending to offset the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic also added to the debt.

Although investors aren't currently worried about a U.S. debt default, that could change once the pandemic ends. In that case, ways to reduce the debt, such as raising taxes or cutting spending, will need to be considered.

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt grew to a record $34 trillion by the end of 2023. It was just $16 billion in 1930.

www.thebalance.com

End of Fiscal Year	Debt (in billions, rounded)	Debt-to-GDP Ratio	Major Events by Presidential Term

2016	$19,573	104%	Brexit
2017	$20,245	104%	Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018	$21,516	104%	Trump tax cuts
2019	$22,719	106%	Trade wars
2020	$26,477 (at end of Q2)	136%	COVID-19 & CARES Act

He will go down in history as an Economic Vandal.
Even before the Pandemic the US GDP was in the low 2's as a result of his ego based China Trade War and the huge Corporate Tax cuts that improved Corporate Balance Sheets rather than created investment in capital and growth.
I'm sure if you sat the orange philistine down and probed him on economics it would all be about the Stockmarket and not indicators like Surplus/Deficit Budgets, Government Debt, GDP and Balance of Payments.
He's like a madman in a control room pulling every lever possible with no clear vision or strategy

 

[Mick F]

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.

www.politico.com