Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 19: Law and Odour

[ShanDog]

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[GreyCrow]

No surprises here of course. Members of cults always think their cult should be immune from the laws that they want to apply to others

Shocked. Shocked I tell ya

 

[magpie_marty]

Many moons ago a person claimed he could shoot someone,

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

 

[The Sultan]

So if Trump order seal team 6 to eradicate his political enemies, what are the ramifications if they (and all other military branches) turn around and refuse.

 

[magpie_marty]

As Bannon heads of to jail today a man Trump pardoned re ripping of donors,
He wants a NY court to overturn his conviction.

Donald J. Trump began an effort on Monday to throw out his recent criminal conviction in Manhattan and postpone his upcoming sentencing, citing a new Supreme Court ruling that granted him broad immunity from prosecution for official actions he took as president.

 

[Number37]

Thats a poor dissent.

The majority were not asserting that a President could do any of those things.

Unless you consider 'murdering a political rival' to be within the scope of the Presidents official constitutional duties (and it's not).

If you were President Biden you could easily mount an argument that Trump was a threat to America and using your special powers to kill him was well within their scope.


You only need to look at how courts have interpreted the 'nationhood power' in our Constitution.
For example: Ordinarily you can't lock people up indefinitely, but you can if you use your nationhood power to protect the country.

 

[GreyCrow]

EJ Carroll case dismissed. Rape is now an official act





*Not true

 

[_Cerberus_]

Shocked. Shocked I tell ya

Right wingers have always been the biggest hypocrites. If anything involves them, it is okay. Involves people they dislike, its not okay. Then again their largely Christian Nationalist base cherry pick things from the bible too.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Why shouldn't Biden do that? As President he now enjoys the same privilege that Trump has demanded and you wouldn't bat an eyelid if he did it.

Because he’s not a megalomaniac?

 

[OneGreatClub]

I suspect that the main concern is that Democrats are likely to observe the line, but Trump won't.

Biden has already said he himself will observe the line. The Dems just don’t know how to fight fire with fire. There are absolutely no rules for MAGA , anything goes. It’s hard to compete with that by taking the high moral ground.

 

[Nikita Blue]

As Bannon heads of to jail today a man Trump pardoned re ripping of donors,
He wants a NY court to overturn his conviction.

Donald J. Trump began an effort on Monday to throw out his recent criminal conviction in Manhattan and postpone his upcoming sentencing, citing a new Supreme Court ruling that granted him broad immunity from prosecution for official actions he took as president.

So his argument is that cheating on his wife with a pornstar and then breaking the law to cover it up before he became President is an official act?

 

[Syd]

So if Trump order seal team 6 to eradicate his political enemies, what are the ramifications if they (and all other military branches) turn around and refuse.

First question is would the order be deemed as 'lawful'.

Article 92(1) of UCMJ - Violation or failure to obey lawful general order or regulation. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Trump’s name appears how many times in the latest Epstein files?

 

[Strange Cat]

Trump’s name appears how many times in the latest Epstein files?

It still wouldn’t matter to that cult

 

[bourbons]

Supreme Court ruled that courts (DOJ) may not inquire into the president's motive to determine if he was acting in an official capacity. Intent irrelevant - clearly a President would always be acting in the country’s best interests.

A democracy is reliant upon the people taking their civic duty seriously, when selecting their representatives.

Yep. Basically giving a bloke like Trump an inch and expecting him not to take the mile.

Should all work out fine I'm sure

 

[bourbons]

Hahaha Balls In, like clockwork. Question too hard, just laugh and ignore.

Not that you're on your own, usually some variance of the above is all you guys can muster when asked if anything at all should be done about your guy trying to flip an election.

 

[Seeds]

So if Trump order seal team 6 to eradicate his political enemies, what are the ramifications if they (and all other military branches) turn around and refuse.

None. This is what a dictatorship is.

 

[Balls In]

Hahaha Balls In, like clockwork. Question too hard, just laugh and ignore.

Not that you're on your own, usually some variance of the above is all you guys can muster when asked if anything at all should be done about your guy trying to flip an election.

You writing pages of nonsense doesn't obligate others to join your fever dreams Bourb's. In answer to your hypothetical though, it doesn't sound like those activities would be official actions so if the facts support this as having happened he can be pursued legally.

 

[bourbons]

In answer to your hypothetical though, it doesn't sound like those activities would be official actions so if the facts support this as having happened he can be pursued legally.

Wow.

Fact you had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this admission aside, thats honestly more rationality than I thought you'd be capable of, nice one.

 

[Satan]

So his argument is that cheating on his wife with a pornstar and then breaking the law to cover it up before he became President is an official act?

its the cheques he signed in the whitehouse which he claim was an official act and talking to hope

 

[Satan]

Heritage Foundation president celebrates Supreme Court immunity decision: "We are in the process of the second American Revolution"

www.mediamatters.org

 

[EagleMan87]

Heritage Foundation president celebrates Supreme Court immunity decision: "We are in the process of the second American Revolution"

www.mediamatters.org

Just a step or two away from outright fascism at this stage.

And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Just a step or two away from outright fascism at this stage.

Jesus. That's terrifying.

 

[Not Important]

what a star. go, girl.

 

[Not Important]

 

[OneGreatClub]

It still wouldn’t matter to that cult

They are probably applauding it now.
They have sunk so low.