Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: The Decline of Donald

[ShanDog]

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[Blue1980]

Those are the guys that got hosed down by the less fringe trump supporters, those guys are super sus.

Its not unusual for fascists to fight amongst themselves.

 

[troybe]

What America will look like in 4 years if the Garbage Man gets in

 

[awaremind]

You're closing in on it!

Why can you blokes never, ever just put your hand up and go yep I got that one wrong

I pretty much did.

 

[awaremind]

It’s not unusual for fascists to fight amongst themselves.

Why can’t you guys ever ever admit you got something wrong

 

[Blue1980]

Why can’t you guys ever ever admit you got something wrong

If there is proof, sure.

I’m also not the one denying Peter Thiel, that super smart dude who is going to be in Trumps ear doesn’t want democracy.

 

[Blue1980]

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What America will look like in 4 years if the Garbage Man gets in

If Trump, and those “moderating” influences of Loomer, Alex Jones, Musk and Thiel have their way, that’s pretty much where it’s headed in the next 3-10 years.

 

[awaremind]

If there is proof, sure.

But proof of what? You basically said no matter how they were received a small crew of masked nazis on a boat means that trump supporters are all fascists.

 

[Blue1980]

But proof of what? You basically said no matter how they were received a small crew of masked nazis on a boat means that trump supporters are all fascists.

They are either fascists or support a fascist. It’s not that complicated.

 

[troybe]

A vote for Trump is a vote for Vance, RFK Jr and Elon. This will be a true Idiocracy, don’t do it Murica

 

[DaTBird187]

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Garbage In but mostly Garbage Out from the Garbage Man of America

 

[awaremind]

A vote for Trump is a vote for Vance, RFK Jr and Elon. This will be a true Idiocracy, don’t do it Murica

If trump can be the host rfk can be the moral compass and Vance and Elon get things done, that’s actually a team with a range of strengths.

 

[awaremind]

They are either fascists or support a fascist. It’s not that complicated.

This is not diplomacy this is fighting words.

 

[Blue1980]

This is not diplomacy this is fighting words.

If you still think Trump is a better option at this point, diplomacy isn’t something you’re concerned about.

I wasn’t trying to be diplomatic, facts don’t care about your feelings.

 

[Blue1980]

If trump can be the host rfk can be the moral compass and Vance and Elon get things done, that’s actually a team with a range of strengths.

Walk me through these strengths. Sounds like austerity for thee but not for me….

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-agrees-his-cuts-would-cause-economic-pain-but-if-elected-could-trump-and-his-republican-allies-stomach-it-205754834.html

 

[DickieKnee]

A vote for Trump is a vote for Vance, RFK Jr and Elon. This will be a true Idiocracy, don’t do it Murica

And the my pillow guy.

 

[troybe]

If trump can be the host rfk can be the moral compass and Vance and Elon get things done, that’s actually a team with a range of strengths.

The only thing they want to do is destroy the joint. Education Dept - gone RFK Jr heading up Health and Human Services - good god, Lemon. Elon gets to make cuts to the budget to the tune of $2T Just Taking Care of Business

 

[100action]

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What America will look like in 4 years if the Garbage Man gets in

what america will look like when the man that has worked at mcdonalds and as a garbo that understands the needs of the common man wins

 

[awaremind]

If you still think Trump is a better option at this point, diplomacy isn’t something you’re concerned about.

I wasn’t trying to be diplomatic, facts don’t care about your feelings.

If you went out in public with that attitude you are going to experience resistance .

The only thing they want to do is destroy the joint. Education Dept - gone RFK Jr heading up Health and Human Services - good god, Lemon. Elon gets to make cuts to the budget to the tune of $2T Just Taking Care of Business

At least it’s not like now where the puppets do the will of Raytheon black rock and vanguard , one definition of fascism is unity of government and corporation , and that’s already here. Somehow musk trump and Vance will actually be an improvement upon that situation

 

[Blue1980]

If you went out in public with that attitude you are going to experience resistance .

At least it’s not like now where the puppets do the will of Raytheon black rock and vanguard , one definition of fascism is unity of government and corporation , and that’s already here. Somehow musk trump and Vance will actually be an improvement upon that situation

You’d get pushback from most talking the stuff you are here too, we are on a political forum on the internet, I don’t randomly talk politics with everyone I meet in real life, I think most normal people are like that.

Your solution to a problem of too many monied interests is to just go by the whims of 2-3 people, with no guardrails.

The solution is to take the Dems further left in a Bernie/AOC direction, not run towards fascism. Unless your hope is this speeds up the collapse of the whole system.

 

[cotter101]

Why do you think he will be a better option?

I think he is the best shot at avoiding an all out World War 3

His presidency saw fewer global conflicts/ flashpoints, and to some degree I think his unpredictability made leaders like Putin, Xi, and Kim think twice.

Israel-Iran situation: while tensions flared occasionally under Trump, things stayed relatively stable compared to now, where the current administration seems focused on sending more weapons, and helping commit genocide. Trump’s already said he’d set a deadline for Israel to end the conflict if he’s elected.

Then there’s Russia and Ukraine. Sure, ending it in 24 hours isn’t realistic, but Trump seems like he could at least get us closer to an end, whereas now we have North Korea getting involved… seems to me we’re heading toward a third world war.

I don’t think they should have to, but Ukraine would likely have to give up some territory for peace given how long it has dragged out. Again though, the current administration just keeps sending weapons.

It’s no secret that the US leads NATO, they were guaranteeing Ukraine would join the alliance in the years leading to the war’s beginning.

As for Biden, his decline has been pretty obvious, so it wouldn’t be surprising if Kamala’s been calling the shots behind the scenes.

Posters here are very quick to dismiss Trump based on some of the things he says and his actions, but Biden’s done some strange things too that have been caught on camera..

Again, I don’t love Trump. I don’t hate him either. But you’ve asked my thoughts as to why I think he’s the better choice given how things are around the world right now.

 

[rumply]

 

[awaremind]

You’d get pushback from most talking the stuff you are here too, we are on a political forum on the internet, I don’t randomly talk politics with everyone I meet in real life, I think most normal people are like that.

Your solution to a problem of too many monied interests is to just go by the whims of 2-3 people, with no guardrails.

The solution is to take the Dems further left in a Bernie/AOC direction, not run towards fascism. Unless your hope is this speeds up the collapse of the whole system.

I do bring stuff like this up sometimes in public not often or with every one but I’m not afraid of a political chat/debate in the public sauna sometimes, which is often fun cos it brinngs people of different backgrounds together.

 

[awaremind]

You’d get pushback from most talking the stuff you are here too, we are on a political forum on the internet, I don’t randomly talk politics with everyone I meet in real life, I think most normal people are like that.

Your solution to a problem of too many monied interests is to just go by the whims of 2-3 people, with no guardrails.

The solution is to take the Dems further left in a Bernie/AOC direction, not run towards fascism. Unless your hope is this speeds up the collapse of the whole system.

Have you seen the videos by a guy under the name “ cancel this clothing company” on Facebook ? He explores stock owrnrrship and how it’s all pretty much one gigantic super corporation with countless levels of cross ownership with black rock state st vanguard Morgan Stanley pretty much owning the rest and cross owning each other. I haven’t done it justice, but he really puzzles out what’s going on and it’s already sort of dystopian.

 

[Blue1980]

I do bring stuff like this up sometimes in public not often or with every one but I’m not afraid of a political chat/debate in the public sauna sometimes, which is often fun cos it brinngs people of different backgrounds together.

Yeah I pick my mark with people. I have friends and family who are pro trump, one who used to be until Jan 6.

My biggest beef of all with trump is the anti democracy stuff. If that wasn’t happening and he just wanted to implement stuff I didn’t like, I wouldn’t see him as an existential threat. Of course I wouldn’t want him elected but if he wasn’t stoking the rhetoric of stolen elections and setting the scene for doing it again the world would be a lot more civil place.

But if he did that he wouldn’t be trump and would probably lose his appeal many of his supporters.

 

[awaremind]

I admit I voted for Howard (in our roundabout way) twice in 04 and 07, having then undergone a substantial political shift later on where I see him as a bad PM, but no, Howard is nowhere near worse.

Costello was a good treasurer but Howard was a nasty little slimeball imo , very polarising. I’d never vote for him in fact I think I’ve always voted labor before lib