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Past 5. Sam Petrevski-Seton
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But since they're offering, I'd be trying to get a future third from them. I have a feeling their future picks will be very valuable. 
I'd say low balling is more disrespectful to the player than being straight up and saying your opportunities will be limited next season see if you can find a good deal elsewhere, especially doing it early on so they have time to look around.
Zac Williams played 14 games last year. I think he had a really poor year for the money hes on. 5 more years of that he will be seen as one of the worst recruits ever.
With SPS I would of like to see SPS play under a different coach. But during the year he was one of my most hated players, he's disposal was horrendous with his 10 metre kicks.
My biggest issue is the way the club has played there hand.
Unfortunately I think it's just become too obvious that he shirks the contest - no nice way of saying it.
Better to let him go explore his options and let the market decide his value.
If west coast offer him next to nothing we might get him back at 100k a year and a rookie spot.
Yup part of the issue, poor commitment and preparedness for AFL standard of footy for a full game another.
Rotational & conditional football won’t cut it , especially in a team that’s is trying to elevate itself from despair.
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I'd suggest it's not cap space but list space. We are very quickly running out of list spots.
Certainly can’t stifle him, he may genuinely be homesick too with this ranging pandemic it ain’t an easy existence far from home.
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Agree. Pardon my ignorance. How does low balling, and tabling a contract for a player who adamantly refuses to re-sign with your team, actually work?
In SPS' case, he's resolute in his position. Appears to have purchased a 1 way ticket back to WA.
I love SPS and wish we were keeping him but i think the reality is that we have already decided he will not be staying given we now have Hewett and have committed to Cerra. That's 2 players that arguably come in and are in front of SPS which would lessen his opportunities. I don't necessarily agree with it but pretty confident that's what the club has decided.
Personally i think SPS is being undervalued for what he can offer and a different coach, game plan and club will do him a world of good. Sometimes a players harshest critics are their clubs supporters.
Personally i think SPS is being undervalued for what he can offer and a different coach, game plan and club will do him a world of good. Sometimes a players harshest critics are their clubs supporters.
Too many similar types, poor list management, small framed , lightweight players whom may be conditional players because of their physiques.
SPS, Fisher, Dow,& LOB and there’s more all these players have been in the system at least 4 seasons , yet haven’t developed physically to be able to protect themselves & demands of AFL .
I guess it's because there's talk of Voss trying to talk him around.
Though it would seem a counter productive thing to be putting a big spiel to him about sticking around then offering him a low priced contract.
This is exactly it - unfortunately the game has become alot about winning the hard contest and SPS is not that type. Shame coz he has the smarts and skills.
In saying that pick 52 is a joke, but trading has become two clubs coming together with crazy offers and meeting somewhere in the middle.
Carlton wanted pick 29 and West Coast offered pick 52 so they compromised and Carlton got pick 52
Dow is not in this group
JustaBattler
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Imagine how funny it would be for opposition to see Carlton put all of
SPS| Fisher | Dow | Setterfield | Ramsay | Philp | Gibbons and the skinny tall bloke who lasted two quarters in he debut game in VFL as the ruck as our midfield
I mean seriously ....
get real Carlton
you need to be bale to have the bodies and mongrel and run - that are happy to go head to head with AFL hard nuts - just to play the game.
oh Cripps and Walsh you say?
yeah two blokes trying to make up for 8 rotating mids...we've seen how well that goes.
it is wake up time at Carlton for all the little blokes who collectively and individually have never played 4 quarters of AFL level.
Voss will have done well to get Carlton to play finals in his first year - but the fact is we dont have the miodfield depth to match it with the better sides - and by depth I mean enough blokes with the size to actually play the role.
lets all enjoy Fisher and Gibbo making thier stoopid videos though and reflect on the nice end to Murphy's career on 300 games! wowee.
we are in rebuild lets hope for a fast 1-2 year reset.
SPS| Fisher | Dow | Setterfield | Ramsay | Philp | Gibbons and the skinny tall bloke who lasted two quarters in he debut game in VFL as the ruck as our midfield
I mean seriously ....
get real Carlton
you need to be bale to have the bodies and mongrel and run - that are happy to go head to head with AFL hard nuts - just to play the game.
oh Cripps and Walsh you say?
yeah two blokes trying to make up for 8 rotating mids...we've seen how well that goes.
it is wake up time at Carlton for all the little blokes who collectively and individually have never played 4 quarters of AFL level.
Voss will have done well to get Carlton to play finals in his first year - but the fact is we dont have the miodfield depth to match it with the better sides - and by depth I mean enough blokes with the size to actually play the role.
lets all enjoy Fisher and Gibbo making thier stoopid videos though and reflect on the nice end to Murphy's career on 300 games! wowee.
we are in rebuild lets hope for a fast 1-2 year reset.
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SPS is a priority and also worth a third rounder?
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I'm sorry, but there's just not that much of a discrepancy between the value of SPS and Cerra.
I'm not saying that SPS is valued similarly to Cerra, but pick 6 and change vs pick 52?!? No.
Below is the comparison between both players in their 3rd years (before Carlton decided to play SPS as a HBF). Now Cerra was playing reduced length games, but I'm not trying to say that SPS was/is better than Cerra, just that they were both tracking along nicely at the same stage and there's no reason to expect that SPS wouldn't be at a similar level to Cerra if he had continued in the midfield.
Fact is, he didn't. He could have handled the change of roles better and we could have handled him better. All of this HAS devalued him, but not to that extent.
By comparison, Henderson was a former pick 8, whose form had been up and down over his career and played in different positions. He checked out and asked for a trade. He netted pick 17 from Geelong 8 years after he was first drafted and was moving to his 3rd club. Surely SPS is worth something in the late 20s/early 30s?
I'm not saying that SPS is valued similarly to Cerra, but pick 6 and change vs pick 52?!? No.
Below is the comparison between both players in their 3rd years (before Carlton decided to play SPS as a HBF). Now Cerra was playing reduced length games, but I'm not trying to say that SPS was/is better than Cerra, just that they were both tracking along nicely at the same stage and there's no reason to expect that SPS wouldn't be at a similar level to Cerra if he had continued in the midfield.
Fact is, he didn't. He could have handled the change of roles better and we could have handled him better. All of this HAS devalued him, but not to that extent.
By comparison, Henderson was a former pick 8, whose form had been up and down over his career and played in different positions. He checked out and asked for a trade. He netted pick 17 from Geelong 8 years after he was first drafted and was moving to his 3rd club. Surely SPS is worth something in the late 20s/early 30s?
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Perception is an odd thing.
On perception, one is worth Pick 6+ to the seller.
The other is perceived to be worth Pick 52 to the potential buyer.
At the end of the day, the hard numbers don't lie, and for whatever reason the perception is that SPS is not good, or can't be good, is wrong. Yeah he got dropped and but also played in the wrong position. If he didn't go Pick 5 in his draft, you'd say he's tracking OK. Again, perception is what is driving this.
You would LOVE to think that Carlton just point to the stats and say "we want your first rounder, and if you don't have one, find one" and not take any calls until WCE come up with the goods. This is a perfect situation to make WCE sweat on letting him go to the draft if they aren't being serious.
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If we accept pick 52 for Samo, clubs will just continue to treat us like powder puffs at the trade table under Austin.
We might as well make a shit sandwich officially part of the deal, because we will be eating one regardless.
We might as well make a shit sandwich officially part of the deal, because we will be eating one regardless.
JustaBattler
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looking at yhat bunch of numbers- youd' say SPS > Cerra
the only thing Cerra beats SPS on is height and weight
I’m more than ok with letting him walk to the PSD if it’s at risk of losing a shitty 3rd pick.
Williams didn't have a good year, but he's far from our worst recruit ever.
Cost us nothing in draft picks, still played some good games, particularly in the backline.
Compare this to McGovern who cost us the equivalent of Pick 13. Williams looks fine.
lukep_86
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This times 100..West Coast either meet us in the middle or heck right off and we let Samo walk to the PSD. Yes he has his flaws, but there's plenty of upside too.
Blue coloured glasses aside, all things considered SPS' stats weren't bad this year (far from great I know).
We all know how good he can be and a pick around 35 is more than fair IMO
