A Collingwood Football Club Tragedy Part 1

[TheOutsider74]

TFR

Part 4 (The End)

As a Tiges fan, I should be deleriously happy at what should be Collingwood supporters' fury. However, I believe that, with Eddie McGuire’s massive error of judgement, the Richmond FC may have missed a golden opportunity. An opportunity to develop a list that shows great potential, into a team that roars likes its mascot. Malthouse would have been the person to have overseen that development. What a return of the prodigal son that would have been! Of course it would have meant the ousting of Damien Hardwick, a top, top bloke by anyone’s reckoning. In general, I believe a person’s word should be honored, and I understand why the Tiger’s board honoured their allegiance to Hardwick. The Tigers have done surprisingly well this year, and a win over the Bombers this week will stand them in good stead for the finals. But doubts linger over Hardwick’s coaching ability, despite the excellent second half of the season. The question should have been asked by Benny and the boys, like McGuire should have asked with the Buckley deal, do we stick with a prior arrangement and go down with a "sinking ship"-a sinking ship in this context for Richmond meaning anything less than a grand final appearance over the next two to three years. Or do we make the very tough call and get Mick Malthouse on board. I feel a degree of hypocrisy for saying this, but the Tiges should have pounced on Mick, and cut Dimma free. A very tough, and probably unethical call, but Dimma, in his heart of hearts, would have known it was the right thing to do. Espeically when the Tiges went back to back premiers in 2015-2016. In the meantime, Collingwood would have a coach who might or might not end up being a coaching legend, while the Tiges would have one who already is.

(I'll be rapt to eat humble Buckley pie if Dimma proves me wrong)

 

[Groupie_]

You still mad Eddie called you a peanut when Cloke kicked his 7th?

Cloke is shit

 

[TheOutsider74]

**** me, why does it need approximately 1500 words or what ever, to say Buckley is only a 2nd year coach who is yet to prove himself as a quality coach.
Divvy this mods, but send the extra large van...

I guess you didn't read it. Buckley might prove to be a great coach. We'll see. The point was it takes some deluded self belief to effectively have a coaching legend kicked out after just having taken the team to grand finals, because you believe you can do better (despite never having coached before). This is what Buckley did.

 

[Shawt]

I guess you didn't read it. Buckley might prove to be a great coach. We'll see. The point was it takes some deluded self belief to effectively have a coaching legend kicked out after just having taken the team to grand finals, because you believe you can do better (despite never having coached before). This is what Buckley did.

You do know the Malthouse decision was announced before he made those Grand Finals?

So, after all that waffling on, even your final point was bullshit

That's forgetting the fact that you're a Richmond flog, lecturing on the correct etiquette for dumping coaches

 

[Wosh]

Flogs only look at the senior guys, and see Malthouse's list

8 debutantes this year, more than any other side... and we may push through to a Prelim.

He has proven 1 thing for sure, he has an eye for the future not just a desperation for immediate success.... a trait that doomed Voss and Hird

Perfect.

 

[TheOutsider74]

You do know the Malthouse decision was announced before he made those Grand Finals?

So, after all that waffling on, even your final point was bullshit

That's forgetting the fact that you're a Richmond flog, lecturing on the correct etiquette for dumping coaches

Nope, not bulllshit. I did address this in Part 3, but then I guess you never actually read it. Here it is again.

"But let’s give Eddie and Nathan a bit of leeway here. Perhaps in 2009, Eddie sensed that Mick was coming to the end of his tenure. Probably a false conclusion, but let’s say he thought Mick was tired and on the way out. He didn’t want to let Buckley go, so he acted. The argument then goes, that Mick was revitalsed, spurred on by this young Buck nipping at his heels, and as a result, he took his coaching to a new level. So Collingwood only won the 2010 premiership because of the Buckley deal. This may, in fact, be true. Of course, it could never be proven. But we are dealing with probabilities here. In any case, it really should have been irrelevant. After the Collingwood Footy Club found itself in that potentially glorious position, the president only had one rational course of action to follow. He should have immediately set Buckley straight. He should have said, Nathan, I’m sorry. As much as I worship the ground under your feet, the Collingwood Football Club is not about Nathan Buckley, it is about winning premierships. It’s not about your desire to be the best you can be. It’s about having the best team to give us a chance to forge a dynasty. And though you will be disappointed, that team right now is lead by Mick Malthouse. And Buckley, showing not before seen humility, should have unequivocally stated, Ed, you are right. This is not about my massive ego, it’s about building a great era like Brisbane and Geelong have done. Ed, I step aside to pursue my ambitions elsewhere , because like Blind Freddy , I can see that doing this is in the best interests of the Pies and it’s supporters."

 

[Bombers 2003]

**** that was sooooo boring. It could have just been summed up as 'figjam lol', therefore in conclusion - OP IS A PHAG.

and so is his dad

 

[Mick98]

Cloke is shit

61>57

 

[Raveneyes]

Blah blah etc.

 

[Pluggeroo]

OP clearly doesnt realise Buckley was responsible for the forward press in 2010. Changes to the interchange system have robbed Collingwood of a dynasty. A change that was made because of the rotations Collingwood and Malthouse used. Having said that, Malthouse was a burn-out and his frustration in the coaching box this year shows just how burnt out he was/is.

I think kudos must go to Buckley for putting up with the bullying and derogatory actions that were used to degrade the Brownlow medalist whilst he was an assistant.

Askng him to pick up the hats and get him a hot chocolate and all that sort of shit was a disgraceful way to treat somebody under your direction. In your workplace you would not put up with that shit but Buckley did. He at the shit Mick dished up and he did it with sugar on top.

He deserves his time as coach and he is doing a fine job.

As for Walls, only Tim Lane hates Collingwood more that that arseh*le so for him to even suggest anything favourable about Collingwood is about as rare as seeing Jesus Christ walk on water!!

OP is a FLOG! Worry about your own successed starved bunch of muppets!

 

[Portology]

First, the facts: Buckley earned the FIGJAM title waaay back playing at Port Adelaide in 1992, his former team mates testify to that well enough when they've got enough booze in them.

That said, there's no reason to go so low as to quote Wallsy in support of him. I mean that's just ... no one deserves that. Well maybe Hirdy.

 

[September Action]

So far nine Collonwood bitches responding to an insightful post by the OP

thread has legs - JAB endorsed

Are you ranking this thread on Carlton's "internal ladder"?

 

[Shawt]

Nope, not bulllshit. I did address this in Part 3, but then I guess you never actually read it. Here it is again.

"But let’s give Eddie and Nathan a bit of leeway here. Perhaps in 2009, Eddie sensed that Mick was coming to the end of his tenure. Probably a false conclusion, but let’s say he thought Mick was tired and on the way out. He didn’t want to let Buckley go, so he acted. The argument then goes, that Mick was revitalsed, spurred on by this young Buck nipping at his heels, and as a result, he took his coaching to a new level. So Collingwood only won the 2010 premiership because of the Buckley deal. This may, in fact, be true. Of course, it could never be proven. But we are dealing with probabilities here. In any case, it really should have been irrelevant. After the Collingwood Footy Club found itself in that potentially glorious position, the president only had one rational course of action to follow. He should have immediately set Buckley straight. He should have said, Nathan, I’m sorry. As much as I worship the ground under your feet, the Collingwood Football Club is not about Nathan Buckley, it is about winning premierships. It’s not about your desire to be the best you can be. It’s about having the best team to give us a chance to forge a dynasty. And though you will be disappointed, that team right now is lead by Mick Malthouse. And Buckley, showing not before seen humility, should have unequivocally stated, Ed, you are right. This is not about my massive ego, it’s about building a great era like Brisbane and Geelong have done. Ed, I step aside to pursue my ambitions elsewhere , because like Blind Freddy , I can see that doing this is in the best interests of the Pies and it’s supporters."

So, the team is bigger than one man, when it's Nathan Buckley

The team is NOT bigger than one man however when it comes to Mick Malthouse

Your obsession with this now is hilarious. Everyone else got over it when the saw that Bucks could coach and Mick just isn't give a shit anymore. His time in Carlton so far has vindicated Eddie. Mick is winding down, and Ed gave him the chance to do that in the role Eade is now in. Mick's ego took over, and the rest is just a bit sad

Seriously though, move on, the rest of the world did 12 mont ago

 

[Cat A]

Essendon, wiped out for cheating its way to 11th last year

This is piss funny because it is piss true.

 

[JustaBattler]

Have to congratulate the OP for an insightful peek into the Wobblers nether regions - yeah nuffin to see there really - and maybe the posts are bit long for the flogs on here who drink their own pizzle every day.

Nuffin speaks well, wears the clothes of a successful coach talks the talk- but has NEVER walked the talk - he is a born loser, a bridesmaid, a done real good and run an unlucky second (at best) and Collingwobblers deserve such a coach. I applaud their faith in figjam- keep hoping Collingwobblers - keep hoping

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Have to congratulate the OP for an insightful peek into the Wobblers nether regions - yeah nuffin to see there really - and maybe the posts are bit long for the flogs on here who drink their own pizzle every day.

Nuffin speaks well, wears the clothes of a successful coach talks the talk- but has NEVER walked the talk - he is a born loser, a bridesmaid, a done real good and run an unlucky second (at best) and Collingwobblers deserve such a coach. I applaud their faith in figjam- keep hoping Collingwobblers - keep hoping

Hey, so how was the sausage sizzle? You know, the one that came about because of the game that left Mick so embarrassed because he had no answers for modern "Nuffin's demolition of Carlton? A quick reminder in that "Nuffins" team being the one that has already completed a successful rebuild from the Malthouse days and are once again playing finals.

The state of Carlton's list? Well....good luck on that one. It's all downhill from here.

 

[Bombers 2003]

Boring as shit, sad attempt to copy others.

Divvy.

the only thing not shit about this is blaze's avatar

 

[TheOutsider74]

Essendon (sub Collingwood, Brisbane) people can't afford to be wrong about their love for him. Those that idolise him have invested their pride and hearts in it, and to stop believing in Hird (sub Buckley, Voss) is to stop believing in the part of themselves they have given. It means trashing years of worship and rewriting it as folly, and that's a mighty big rip-up of self.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/superb-player-an-ugly-truth-20130831-2sxp1.html#ixzz2dcAO3CLy

 

[11sjw]

Here I thought this would be about a Pies supporter being told that the welfare is stopping and they have to get a job.

 

[Raveneyes]

Here I thought this would be about a Pies supporter being told that the welfare is stopping and they have to get a job.

I've Hird there's jobs available at the Essendon Football Club.

 

[JustaBattler]

OP speaks truths that the deaf, dumb and dumber don't wish to consider....