- Apr 27, 2003
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- 2,975
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- Port Adelaide
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- B'ham CityFC Adelaide United FC
7,195 in Townsville tonight, NQ's best crowd of the season.
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7,195 in Townsville tonight, NQ's best crowd of the season.
Good to hear.
- Apr 27, 2003
- 11,599
- 2,975
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- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- B'ham CityFC Adelaide United FC
If NQ play at home on a weekend night (preferably Saturday) then their crowds will always be a bit higher because it allows people from Cairns, Mackay, Innisfail, etc to make the trip to get to Townsville to attend the game. FFA scheduling midweek and Friday night games there beggars belief, but as per usual in recent times, the decisions that beggar belief are the ones they tend to take ...
Dimenhydrinate
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I agree with your sentiment,... this is a great crowd, especially given the circumstances of a hasty move to a regional centre.
However, a quick look up of the NRL attendances for 2010 reveals that only one game with a sub-7000 crowd (Sydney v North Queensland). However, you were right to say that it is close to what the AFL gets regionally: they pulled in 8848 in one match in Darwin this year.
There was also Penrith-NQC which drew 7,080. Roughly similar.
Seriously
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I dont see the context, its a different state, different sporting culture, different sport etc, not even comparable.
The victory's crowds would be one of the most concerning because there is really no reason for them to be dropping, on field they have been successful, they would be one of the most attractive teams to watch and they have a new stadium to play in but they keep on dropping.
Dimenhydrinate
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You're right, they're not comparable.
Whereas the NRL clubs have decades of history and a geographical base,. Victory have started from scratch in a hostile environment.
So yeah, they're not comparable. Victory's kicking the shit out of the NRL.
Except for the addition of another side in the city.
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Hostile environment? That is just absurd.
Its interesting that the 4 clubs from the "australian football cities" have the highest 4 average attendances this season...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010-11_A-League
If that doesn't completley quash thios idea that the AFL territory is "hostile territory" to soccer than I'll go he in tiggy.
The irony of this ongoing brain fevered paranoia at the AFL, is that it is in its footprint that the A-League will be saved. Many aussie rules supporters have an affintiy for the round ball code and it only needs a fraction of these to continue wanting to go to "live football" to ensure the viability of the clubs - and this is exactly what is happening
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And a completely lack of advertising.
TigersBoy
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- 89
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- Richmond
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- Melb Victory, Glasgow Rangers
Ive seen the stands look emptier at Etihad and seen 20,000+ pop up on the screen. I agree with Simon Hill in the matter that the number didnt seem right. There was more than the Sydney game that was for sure and a lot of people are saying that it didnt look right.
I have to say im getting a very strong soft spot for the fury. To think the FFA are thinking of cutting this side. Watched the full game and this is a team that plays with the heart of there sleave. The great atmosphere and to see all those Families pack out the hills behind the goals was great and what this league needs. Green fills the stands, Its great for the league. I think Fury has been the bench mark in the 3 expantion clubs. Sunday twilight games or Saturday nights would be great time slots for them.
I have to say im getting a very strong soft spot for the fury. To think the FFA are thinking of cutting this side. Watched the full game and this is a team that plays with the heart of there sleave. The great atmosphere and to see all those Families pack out the hills behind the goals was great and what this league needs. Green fills the stands, Its great for the league. I think Fury has been the bench mark in the 3 expantion clubs. Sunday twilight games or Saturday nights would be great time slots for them.
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The Fury have an average crowd this year of 5,487. And they don't have an owner. If they're setting a benchmark for anything, it's a really sad state of affairs.
Actually looking them up they are not as bad as i thought, i was under the impression you guys were getting 30+k for quite a while, obviously not.
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2005–06 2006–07 2007–08 2008–09 2009–10 2010–11
14,158 27,728 26,064 24,516 21,105 15,425http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League#Crowds
Add the heart's 9,802 average and that takes it to approximately 25k, which is above the averages of the last 2 seasons. Still a pitiful effort for a city of 4-5 million people.
Its just a strange comparison given its a completely different city with a different sporting attendance culture and NRL is a TV sport, its tv deal is something close to the AFL's.
Pitiful is your attitude and knowledge of Melbourne and the crowds there. They have carried the league for 5 seasons (in terms of crowds) now its there fault that others haven't improved.
No one has said that last bit you've added on there about blaming the victory, it was just noticeable that the victory supporter base was slipping in recent seasons despite there being no good reason for it to be. Other teams with decreasing crowds have either been poorly run or had limited on field success, the victory are the odd one out in that regard.
Oh and 25k out of 4 million is terrible, you’re effectively saying that the whole professional Australian soccer industry in victoria has as much interest as a kangaroos or western bulldogs (ie bugger all).
Oh and 25k out of 4 million is terrible, you’re effectively saying that the whole professional Australian soccer industry in victoria has as much interest as a kangaroos or western bulldogs (ie bugger all).
TigersBoy
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- Sep 4, 2008
- 777
- 89
- AFL Club
- Richmond
- Other Teams
- Melb Victory, Glasgow Rangers
I said the benchmark for the 3 expansion clubs. Gold Coast is a Joke. Heart has been boosted by the Derby crowd. And will be boosted again with another derby crowd in December.
Owner or no owner. They are getting out into the public and creating a great image for the game and the team.
Go GWS!
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So far, so good...
My guess (total/average): 37000/9250
Reality (total/average): 37324/9331
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i forgot where i read it, but tony sage said he is expecting Perth's worst ever crowd for the Wednesday night match against the Heart
TigersBoy
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5,000 I think and I think they'll win too.
No good reasons apart from another team now in the city, a lack of any marketing and the success achieved making it a bit ho-hum.
I said that you are singling out Melbourne the city as being pitiful cos only get 25K when they've had the most fans in every year of the a-league. If you have a problem with the number of fans going I'd be looking at other citys.
There you go again single out Melbourne when Sydney has more people.
They get way less than 25K yet they aren't pitiful?
Before you said NRL teams weren't comparable, now you are stating AFL clubs are!
The inferiority complex that some of you in Adelaide have is very sad.
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Attendances are probably dropping because, well, people in Melbourne aren't really that interested in soccer.
Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely game and can be great to watch. But, the A-League isn't really an attractive standard for casual interests.
Combined with the shit weather, Melbourne's terrible roads and public transport system, the schedule the A league runs on and the lack of free to air exposure or relevant advertising, aside from the fanatics, people just can't get excited about it. Then you have certain supporters who, to put it bluntly, act like giant dicks and make it so parents don't feel comfortable taking the family or their kids out.
I used to make it to every Victory game I could, but now it has just lost it's appeal to me. That's just how it is for me and the group of 20-odd blokes I used to go to games with. I'm not sure if other people in Melbourne feel the same or people in other cities, but that's just my 2 cents.
Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely game and can be great to watch. But, the A-League isn't really an attractive standard for casual interests.
Combined with the shit weather, Melbourne's terrible roads and public transport system, the schedule the A league runs on and the lack of free to air exposure or relevant advertising, aside from the fanatics, people just can't get excited about it. Then you have certain supporters who, to put it bluntly, act like giant dicks and make it so parents don't feel comfortable taking the family or their kids out.
I used to make it to every Victory game I could, but now it has just lost it's appeal to me. That's just how it is for me and the group of 20-odd blokes I used to go to games with. I'm not sure if other people in Melbourne feel the same or people in other cities, but that's just my 2 cents.
Attendances are probably dropping because, well, people in Melbourne aren't really that interested in soccer.
Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely game and can be great to watch. But, the A-League isn't really an attractive standard for casual interests.
Combined with the shit weather, Melbourne's terrible roads and public transport system, the schedule the A league runs on and the lack of free to air exposure or relevant advertising, aside from the fanatics, people just can't get excited about it. Then you have certain supporters who, to put it bluntly, act like giant dicks and make it so parents don't feel comfortable taking the family or their kids out.
I used to make it to every Victory game I could, but now it has just lost it's appeal to me. That's just how it is for me and the group of 20-odd blokes I used to go to games with. I'm not sure if other people in Melbourne feel the same or people in other cities, but that's just my 2 cents.
A good contribution - it's probably something replicated round much of Australia.
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