Politics & Government A new Flag

[Wallaby]

Green and Gold have only been Australia's official colours since 1984. prior to that there was nothing official, but there were a few combinations commonly used - red, white and blue, blue and gold, and green and gold. I remember a bit of a fuss at the 82 Brisbane Comm games when our team was dressed in Blue and White.

I guess it comes down to what you want the flag to represent. Flags started as a rallying banner used in war - mostly an easily identifiable single color. Then they started getting into personal flags for warlords, dukes, kings etc, so we got some variations.

It is only in the last couple of centuries or so that national flags have had significant symbolic symbolic imagery - US with 50 stars (previously 48) and 13 stripes. the Union jack being three flags combined, the Pan-African colours (red, green, black) etc.

So do we want a flag to represent our history? Do we want it to reflect our society today? Do we want it to symbolise our place in the world? Or do we perpetuate the sterotypes (maybe not Football, Meat Pies, Kangaroos, and Holden cars, but boomerangs, roos and a sunburnt country)?

First work out what you need a flag for (and flags are little more than decoration these days - they have very little practical application), and then what it should represent. Then pick the design.

 

[cos789]

Ok my last effort for a while

 

[Eagle Empire]

No detailed imagery. Secondly, the colour scheme of green and blue is drab. The above design is very much out of touch with what people wouldn't mind seeing.

I've seen some good designs on the net. Those of the OP are amongst some of the worst I've seen.

 

[centrelink1]

No stars. No kangaroos. Something simple.

 

[Luigi]

Has anybody pointed out that the OPs first flag looks like a 4 year olds painting of a sunny day

 

[Normy132]

I don't mind that. Problem is if you asked people to draw that Australian flag people would struggle with the kangaroo.

 

[beez]

I think St Kilda Council are looking for something along this line...

 

[maka]

We have a Prime Minister because we are governed by the Queen, therefore our flag doesnt need to change.

 

[Bomber32]

The Port Phillip Council can't help themselves can they?

FFS they are a bunch of w***ers.

 

[cos789]

No stars. No kangaroos. Something simple.

Like a yellow sun in a blue sky over a green land .

No detailed imagery. Secondly, the colour scheme of green and blue is drab. The above design is very much out of touch with what people wouldn't mind seeing.

Ooops .

Problem is if you asked people to draw that Australian flag people would struggle with the kangaroo.

So - keep it simple eh ?

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[cos789]

The above design is very much out of touch with what people wouldn't mind seeing.

Ok you're saying no Southern Cross ,no kangaroo ,no green,no gold and no blue .

So what would you like to see ?
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[maka]

Like a yellow sun in a blue sky over a green land .



Ooops .



So - keep it simple eh ?

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if we went with your flag, the abbos would absolutely destroy us, its a blatant rip off

 

[V_23]

The sooner we become a republic, change the flag and the title of PM to President, the better. Hopefully it occurs before Charles takes the throne. We should replace the Union Jack with the Australian Coat of Arms. This is my suggestion but, due to my lack of mspaint skills, the background should be dark green and the stars/coat of arms should be gold (not yellow).

Sort of like this (crappy mspaint skills aside):

We should model our flag on the old Australian Cricket ODI shirt colours/design:

 

[Damon_3388]

We have a Prime Minister because we are governed by the Queen, therefore our flag doesnt need to change.

There's a fair few republics around the world (eg. France) that still have both a Prime Minister and a President.

The sooner we become a republic, change the flag and the title of PM to President, the better. Hopefully it occurs before Charles takes the throne. We should replace the Union Jack with the Australian Coat of Arms. This is my suggestion but, due to my lack of mspaint skills, the background should be dark green and the stars/coat of arms should be gold (not yellow).

Sort of like this (crappy mspaint skills aside):

We should model our flag on the old Australian Cricket ODI shirt colours/design:

Maybe just have the coat of arms in the centre (in a larger size), on a green background, without the "AUSTRALIA" text. Would be perfect IMO.

 

[cos789]

if we went with your flag, the abbos would absolutely destroy us, its a blatant rip off

Lucky we haven't got a flag like NZ or those Kiwis would invade us !

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[maka]

Lucky we haven't got a flag like NZ or those Kiwis would invade us !

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[cos789]

Maybe just have the coat of arms in the centre (in a larger size), on a green background, without the "AUSTRALIA" text. Would be perfect IMO.

Looks good ,the coat of arms is very detailed however .
Even the "Qantas" kangaroo is busy wrt most flags .
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[Eagle Empire]

Ok you're saying no Southern Cross ,no kangaroo ,no green,no gold and no blue .

So what would you like to see ?
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"Detailed imagery" referring to the animated kangaroo in your previous two designs. Green and blue as the main colours in your designs.

At no point did I specifically criticise the use of the Southern Cross symbol or the colour 'gold'.

The designs I have seen that appealed to me were simple, using two main colours and incorporating the Southern Cross and 8-point star symbols.

 

[cos789]

The current New Zealand flag dates from 1869 .
The Australian flag dates from 1901 (some minor changes) and is hard to
distinguish from the former especially when flying .

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[maka]

The current New Zealand flag dates from 1869 .
The Australian flag dates from 1901 (some minor changes) and is hard to
distinguish from the former especially when flying .

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ohhhhh, ok, well we are pretty much New Zealands cousin, i like the silver fern one they fly at the cricket too be fair.

 

[cos789]

"Detailed imagery" referring to the animated kangaroo in your previous two designs. Green and blue as the main colours in your designs.

At no point did I specifically criticise the use of the Southern Cross symbol or the colour 'gold'.

So you don't like the kangaroo and addition of blue .

The designs I have seen that appealed to me were simple, using two main colours and incorporating the Southern Cross and 8-point star symbols.

Very few Ausflags on display have only two colours .
In fact there is a preponderance of Red,white & blue and red,yellow & black .
As a personnel choice I find the use of only two colours a bit flat and the addition of a third colour almost makes for a third dimension .
IMO some of the best flags are from the pacific region .
See Kiribati ,PNG ,Solomon Islands or the "Australian" type flags with the Union Jack in the Canton .

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[V_23]

Another quick mock-up which I think looks pretty good. Ideally the coat of arms would be simpler (couldn't find an image) and everything except the background should be gold. Also, anyone else think that the song 'I am Australian' could be a good national anthem?

 

[cos789]

Another quick mock-up which I think looks pretty good. Ideally the coat of arms would be simpler (couldn't find an image) and everything except the background should be gold. Also, anyone else think that the song 'I am Australian' could be a good national anthem?

Google using "images" option .
There's already a flag there (not very good)like your suggestion.
A lot of people are against a flag that is too intricate .
Some people are against a kangaroo .

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[Eagle Empire]

So you don't like the kangaroo and addition of blue .

I don't mind the use of a kangaroo symbol. I especially like the use of 'blue'. It's a colour most identifiable with the current flag, so it makes sense to include it in a mock-up. I think the colour 'green' should be ignored.

 

[BarneyBent]

Some designs I knocked up last night and this arvo.

Don't know why I made the blue for the last one (which was actually the first one I did) so pale, pretend it's the colour of the rest.