AFL teams? , because NRL people constantly state how incredibly poor ovals are for NRL.
A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!
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AFL teams? , because NRL people constantly state how incredibly poor ovals are for NRL.
NRL teams. They have no choice, the government knocked down the SFS and hasn't replaced it. And it sounds like they won't for a while.
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Belmore, Kogarah, Concord, Homebush, Henson Park, Hurstville, Lidcombe, North Sydney Oval, Pratten Park, Redfern Oval, Barton Park.
Plenty of choices.
A 12 team league would require a large number of mergers of Sydney clubs, and I can't see fans supporting the merged entities if they choose to play out of the traditional homes of their rivals, as it wouldn't be a fair compromise. Plus it's been proven that crowds are higher at centralised large stadiums rather than suburban backwaters.
Speaking of suburban backwaters, very few of the stadiums you mentioned are fit to host professional sport anymore. Kogarah and Belmore are only just good enough, and they're small, get poor attendances and are the traditional homes of clubs. Homebush is good enough, but it's not in eastern Sydney, where five current teams are based. Can't see Roosters, Sharks or Manly fans making the long commute over weekly.
So the SCG is the only suitable ground in the eastern suburbs for a 12 team league. There's a reason why the NRL has played as many games as they can there ever since the SFS was shut down.
Tough.
Not in Sydney. Poor crowds at centralised stadiums.
Tough. I mentioned these as one alternative to the SCG.
What happened to "it's been proven that crowds are higher at centralised large stadiums rather than suburban backwaters."
They don't travel a.t.m. but most probably won't exist so not an issue.
Homebush is the easiest stadium to get to, much easier than the SCG.
What on earth do you mean by tough? The NRL already play games at the SCG!
I'm afraid the facts disagree with you.
Will spruced-up suburban grounds bring back NRL crowds?
Data suggests romantic memories of bumper attendances at suburban grounds like Brookvale Oval may be built on an illusion.
So you're unable to address the point?
Well they are, it's a fact. It's just that the SCG is central to eastern Sydney where five teams are located, and Homebush is central to the area of the inner west, where two teams are located. So I don't see your point, Homebush isn't centralised for the area I'm referring to.
To you, perhaps. The NRL will be attempting to carry over as many fans of the individual clubs as possible into any merged entity so I'd imagine attendance is an issue to them.
Are you familiar with the light rail that was constructed at great expense?
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Do NRL fans matter that much?
Surley the NRL relies much more on TV, Pokies & sponsors than bums on seats?
I'm sure they do, but they're not going to turn up their nose at more cash. Also, TV networks would prefer to only have games at two or three stadiums in Sydney rather than having to lug equipment out to Brookvale.
"fair compromise" is an oxymoron.
And they needn't. NRL fans incessantly bitch about ovals as being an unsatisfactory experience.
agree with me. Just look at the abysmal crowds for Homebush.
Far from it. A gave a very long list alternatives to playing at the SCG. NRL clubs need not play there.
It is when it comes to travel. Homebush is convenient to all. The SCG is inconvenient to most.
So you're actually proposing suburban grounds for mergers then ?
You mean the unmitigated disaster ? The snail rail is so slow that you get there just in time to return.
It is totally unbelievable that with so many fantastic light rail systems in existence around the world
that Sydney would build a system that doesn't even match the original system.
I suppose, if you're al-Qaeda or a similar level of extremist.
Why do you think the NRL play games at the SCG? Moore Park is central to Eastern Sydney and the SFS is out of action. RL fans will put up with it until the government gets around to building the new stadium. I'm sure Roosters and Dragons fans at least would be angry if anyone tried to take away their Anzac Day SCG fixture.
I already supplied you with an article showing that's not true. Try posting actual evidence supporting your opinion.
And yet they do, and I've already told you why. And I told you why your list is irrelevant.
LOL okay, have you talked to Manly, Cronulla, Easts and St George fans to make that declaration? You don't seem to be that familiar with Sydney.
Nope, never said that. Attendances are higher at the big centralised stadiums. I have evidence to back that up, you don't.
8 minutes between Central station and Moore Park is "snail rail"? You sound like someone who reads Daily Telegraph headlines and swallows them hook, line and sinker. The light rail has its issues, but they're mostly in the city centre, not between Central and Moore Park.
Then you'll like V'Landy like you do!!!!!!!
It's common knowledge that the NRL only play at the SCG in an attempt to upset the AFL
but was shown to backfire on their own fans.
Not the facts that shown abysmal crowds at Homebush.
No, I don't have to. It's been the subject of many ARTICLES on that exact same subject.
Yes, in the AFL but NOT in Sydney NRL.
I know it's a hard time for everyone right now, but it's probably best to go easy on the turps before posting.
Common knowledge amongst whom?
I understand that you may not enjoy reading articles, so I'll copy the relevant graph here for you that shows you the SCG gets bigger crowds than suburban grounds.
See? The SCG is further up the graph than all suburban grounds, and the graph is ranking grounds by attendance figures. Do you have statistics that dispute this conclusion?
If there are so many of them, perhaps you could post three. That should be easy.
You can repeat the same thing until you're blue in the face, but numbers don't lie. I posted some. Can you?
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I do think that the title of the tread is now irrelevant now as i think there must be serious doubts if we will have 2 AFL in Sydney in the coming years
Au contraire. Anti-NRL people would say that the contraction of the NRL to 12 teams through the demise of Sydney teams would be a fantastic opportunity for AFL, rugby and soccer to expand in Sydney.
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Where is the link from ARL saying they are going to reduce their comp to 12 teams?
Yes, the first thing a nrl troll does when losing an argument is to attack the person after mentioning Al Quaida.
How old are you that you don't know Manly "supporters" don't travel.
Everybody laughs at Roy Masters. You don't take hime seriously do you?
Roy Masters garbage. I posted from NRL attendances that show Homebush has below average NRL attendances.
You just don't get it do you.
People who are anti-NRL would want the NRL to play at Homebush because it's been a disaster.
PLENTY of articles on the NRL shrinking to 12 teams. Surely you'd be up to date on that.
Andrew Johns suggests NRL cut four teams as coronavirus leaves financial impact
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Please provide the links to back up your claim
PLENTY of articles on the NRL shrinking to 12 teams. Surely you'd be up to date on that.
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‘Only the strong survive’ — Joey Johns calls for NRL to let weaker clubs die
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Nah, they will make sure there are the 2 clubs per state for the comp.
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I've been on this forum longer than you and made more posts, so it's pretty laughable that you're calling me an NRL troll. You're the one claiming to be a great expert in what the fans of multiple NRL teams think. Did the mention of al-Qaeda trigger you? Anyone who thinks there's no such thing as fair compromise is about as extreme.
Yeah you're right, there's not a single Manly supporter in the whole house when they play finals. All 80k people in their last two grand finals were supporting Melbourne and NZ, despite the game being in Sydney.
I take statistics seriously. Do you?
You posted one column of data, which proved nothing because it had no context to it. NRL average attendances are skewed by the Broncos drawing 30k per week. A fair comparison would have shown the Bulldogs and Tigers attendances at Homebush compared to their traditional grounds over the past few years. Why didn't you post that? Is it because it doesn't support your theory?
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Incorrect. He's been around a lot longer just under a different user name.
There you go mentioning something totally irrelevant again. Why do you do that?
I said "fair compromise is an oxymoron". Again the irrelevant mention.
If you say so. I only said that Manly "supporters" don't travel well.
Good point. So staging games at Homebush brings it to no better than attendances than Sydney generally.
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