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The A-League and some Sydney NRL clubs will be gone before we are.
Shouldn’t you be spending more time worried about sports you actually follow?
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The A-League and some Sydney NRL clubs will be gone before we are.
Shouldn’t you be spending more time worried about sports you actually follow?
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Wow nice whinge Wanderbaby.
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Ch.9 WWOS C.Wilson 16.3
"The AFL is on the verge of extending its current TV rights deal for 2 years...The AFL receives $418m per year and, according to Wilson, the same agreement (ie $418m pa-my words) will now continue for 2 years".
"It will be announced in months, possibly 1 month" said Wilson.
A huge development for the AFL- & for the continued strong growth of the AFL & GR AF in Sydney- whilst the NRL, RA, & FFA/A League will likely continue to have massive financial problems.
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This is puzzling-why is the MSM not reporting this cataclysmic shift in Australian sport.
"The AFL is on the verge of extending its current TV rights deal for 2 years...The AFL receives $418m per year and, according to Wilson, the same agreement (ie $418m pa-my words) will now continue for 2 years".
"It will be announced in months, possibly 1 month" said Wilson.
A huge development for the AFL- & for the continued strong growth of the AFL & GR AF in Sydney- whilst the NRL, RA, & FFA/A League will likely continue to have massive financial problems.
AFL set to extend TV deal amid COVID pandemic
'It's Gil's finest hour and his best ever deal'
This is puzzling-why is the MSM not reporting this cataclysmic shift in Australian sport.
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Ch.9 WWOS C.Wilson 16.3
"The AFL is on the verge of extending its current TV rights deal for 2 years...The AFL receives $418m per year and, according to Wilson, the same agreement (ie $418m pa-my words) will now continue for 2 years".
"It will be announced in months, possibly 1 month" said Wilson.
A huge development for the AFL- & for the continued strong growth of GR AF in Sydney- whilst the NRL, RA, & FFA/A League will likely continue to have massive financial problems.
AFL set to extend TV deal amid COVID pandemic
'It's Gil's finest hour and his best ever deal'
This is puzzling-why is the MSM not reporting this cataclysmic shift in Australian sport.
I saw this development not too long ago and and couldn't find it again when I realised I'f heard no more about it.
Obviously it would have huge implications if it could be substantiated.
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Ch.9 WWOS C.Wilson 16.3
"The AFL is on the verge of extending its current TV rights deal for 2 years...The AFL receives $418m per year and, according to Wilson, the same agreement (ie $418m pa-my words) will now continue for 2 years".
"It will be announced in months, possibly 1 month" said Wilson.
A huge development for the AFL- & for the continued strong growth of GR AF in Sydney- whilst the NRL, RA, & FFA/A League will likely continue to have massive financial problems.
AFL set to extend TV deal amid COVID pandemic
'It's Gil's finest hour and his best ever deal'
This is puzzling-why is the MSM not reporting this cataclysmic shift in Australian sport.
hutchy being surprised may be an indicator. He's been talking for weeks on his podcast about how radio and tv ad pricing has been smashed due to advertisers exiting the market (no need promoting cinemas, restaurants, casinos, fashion retail, or travel right now for example). he has been saying even when it bounces back he's not expecting rates to return to what they once were. Foxtel/C7 extending the current deal would be a gamble that they think this shrinkage is short term only, and the current deals rates are sustainable.
playing devils advo, journos may be keeping their powder dry because they are assuming the other boot will drop at some stage (ie C7 will need some provision or protection to minimize their risk if the bounceback is a slower one)
If true, this is massive news for the afl and a huge win.
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If list sizes get trimmed down to 35 then there will be approx. 7 per players per club looking for a new opportunity which is around 126 players in total. Surely that would be enough for two new entities to choose from and get up and running relatively easily.
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Problem is the vast majority of them will have been extremely fortunate to even be close to being professional athletes and will just go back to being good/handy state league players where they belong.
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Check the date of articleCh.9 WWOS C.Wilson 16.3
"The AFL is on the verge of extending its current TV rights deal for 2 years...The AFL receives $418m per year and, according to Wilson, the same agreement (ie $418m pa-my words) will now continue for 2 years".
"It will be announced in months, possibly 1 month" said Wilson.
A huge development for the AFL- & for the continued strong growth of GR AF in Sydney- whilst the NRL, RA, & FFA/A League will likely continue to have massive financial problems.
AFL set to extend TV deal amid COVID pandemic
'It's Gil's finest hour and his best ever deal'
This is puzzling-why is the MSM not reporting this cataclysmic shift in Australian sport.
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That is a very logical point. Finding players for two new teams is not a problem.
In the mean time, the second tier competitions would be boosted - i like that.
Yes, is was ONLY two weeks ago.
A lot happened in the last two weeks so if there is legs to this story then nothing is going to happen in a hurry.
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Exactly! Wilson's article on the excellent AFL $418m pa new 2023-24 Rights' deal was only 2 weeks ago! EVERYONE knew then that the Aust. economy was certain to be going into recession (& since the late 1930's, the average length of recessions in Aust. was c. 20 months- perfect for the new deal starting in 2023).
Re covid-19, nothing material, or unexpected, since 16.3 has occured to alter the new 2023-24 Rights' deal substance.
We already had border lockdowns, traveller quarantines, social distancing- & continuous announcements from PM S. Morrison, the Aus. CMO B.Murphy, State Premiers & State CMO's etc. that MORE extensive personal quarantines & lockdowns were INEVITABLE. We were always old that WINTER in Aust. was going to be the most severe time for covid-19 infections & more restrictions etc. (As you are from England originally, you would know how flu spreads much more widely in winter).
In the last 2 days, there has actually been a slightly more positive tone from S. Morrison & CMO B. Murphy etc. that we are closer to achieving the much-coveted "flattened curve" ie the rate of increase of covid-19 is dropping appreciably. This inspires more confidence that AFL games will be played sometime later this year.
I know you are not really a Swans or AFL fan, & are trolling BF, but why are you still refusing to answer my questions I have put to you directly in this Thread- Post# 1722,1789,1917,1978,1995
Also, another question for you.
The Aust. $ is depreciating considerably against the pound from your home country, England; & the Euro etc- which makes imported pro soccer players much more expensive. Will it now become almost impossible for the broke A League to continue to recruit 2nd grade & 3rd grade soccer players, to revive the collapsing A League?
The List sizes, according to another C. Wilson report, will be reduced to 35 in 2021, & 30 in 2022 (with top-ups coming from the 2nd tier VFL, WAFL, SANFL etc.).
Tasmania will be the next team to join the AFL, hopefully c. 2025- but there probably won't be another 20th team until c. 2035, or later.
And not just List size cuts, but major Football Dept. cuts (including the army of overpaid, unnecessary, "useless" assistant coaches, IT experts, others with their noses in the trough from 2021 eg listen to M.Lloyd on 24.3 eviscerate these hangers-on, for a waste of $.
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As above, virtually all economic experts were either predicting a major recession about 6 weeks ago, or a strong possibilty we would enter a rcession (in fact, most experts were actually making these predictions from from Nov.19, after numerous Reserve Bank interest rate cuts, & PM S. Morrison announced a massive Federal govt. building etc. stimulus packages for 2020)
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there is a big difference to a recession with 7% unemployment and some budget cuts, and what is happening now. equating the two is laughable
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It was interesting listening to a lady (who I think was somehow involved with government funding programs) on the radio talking the other day about why these professional sports haven’t built up huge cash reserves and one of the main reasons is that they are not for profit. Clubs jobs are to win not make money but more importantly is that governments have made it near impossible for the sports governing bodies to have any incentive to.
The system has been setup that you are really just shooting yourself in the foot by saving money. The government aren’t going to be handing over tens/hundreds of millions of dollars to sports/competitions that are generating massive profits because they can do so themselves. Why pump all that money into grassroots when the government will pick up the slack anyway?
This is one of the most important things the AFL and NRL should work through with governments.
The system has been setup that you are really just shooting yourself in the foot by saving money. The government aren’t going to be handing over tens/hundreds of millions of dollars to sports/competitions that are generating massive profits because they can do so themselves. Why pump all that money into grassroots when the government will pick up the slack anyway?
This is one of the most important things the AFL and NRL should work through with governments.
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I disagree with your above context.
As I stated, the relevant years are 2023-24- & from Aust. historical experience, the recesssion should be over by late 2021/early 2022.
C.Wilson is, currently, Australia's most experienced AFL journalist, has won many awards, & whose speciality is off- field issues (including Rights' deals, broadcaster commercial/advertising expectations etc.). Wilson is easily the best current AFL journalist in Australia in her field. She, & Ch.7, Foxtel & Telstra knew prior to 16.3 that Aust. (& the world ) was going into a deep recession.
Wilson specifically called her announcement on WWOS "an exclusive". She knew its importance to her reputation; & the AFL, Ch.7, Foxtel, & Telstra have not challenged, in any way, her profound announcement. The deal is a crucial triumph for the AFL, & the game of AF- particularly when other Aust. pro sports are facing financial armageddon.
There were also other MSM reports, leading up to 16.3.20, that the AFL was very close to finalising a new deal- & that the AFL sought the current $418m pa, +CPI increases.
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if you think 21 isnt going to bleed into later years you are kidding yourself. the media market was already changing with the move away from FTA and subscription tv to streaming options. this will accelerate this, as the weak will weaken more quickly. According to Hutchy, C7 actually made money by not screening the footy this year (as the ad revenue bump footy gives was less than the effective cost per game of the deal). if this is the case for 2020 - before covid-19 truly bares its fangs, you so sure it will be in less so in 23/24?
YES.
Probably.
You lost me there. Why cannot subscription television be a big boost to AFL?
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it was already losing people to Kayo. yes, a foxtel product, but less coin per subscriber than foxtel.
the beauty of kayo, netflix, stan, and disney+ is they have want people always paid the premium for (movies and sport) without the shitty filler crap you have to pay for.
What about WatchAFL?
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to work it needs to be on par with what MLB or the NBA are delivering. It doesnt, and like most AFL IT offerings its a Target version.
from what Ive heard the AFL vision was to build AFL media into its own platform to host and stream its own games. apparently that got abandoned some time ago, when they learnt the cost of establishing the infrastructure to do it properly would be prohibitive compared to continuing to sell the rights
Why aren't the costs prohibitive to others?
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Because the NBA and the like have a massive global audience willing to pay, we don't.
The AFL would have to contract talent, producers, techs and so on, and produce enough content to make the value of subscription worthwhile. It's more profitable for them to outsource it, because others can subsidize these costs against other activities
Which is what they already do with WatchAFL. Where's the difference?
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WatchAFL is a Foxsports operation now.
And before that the AFL didnt produce its content, Brave Bison (previously rightster) rebroadcasted Fox/7 coverage.
The AFL owns the copyright to all match footage, so they could sell non exclusive streaming rights, and then set up their own streaming service.
What's the contract length?
So where is the much bandied cost come from?
Content - should be existing.
Bandwith, storage, streaming production?
I see amateur streaming productions all the time.
Where is the cost in upscaling?
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