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Once again it is you playing games. Not uncommon.
You're atlking about it from a different angle, ie not the angle I proposed to you.
Let's say they were in fact chasing the boy.
So you say they must be guilty of something otherwise they wouldn't have covered it up. Fair enough.
BUT GUILTY OF WHAT?
You must have thought out a few scenarios in your head. Please share them.
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- #203
Mantis for one and few others who fancy themselves as politically correct.
I think this thread highlights that as a people we haven't progressed too far since Myall Creek in 1838.
Is it really necessary for aborigines to be labelled rockapes, apes, things, and protected species?
There are so many issues to cover on this thread, but should it be used to project racial hatred? We saw enough of that on Sunday night.
Instead of being reactionary and stereotypical, the issues behind this appalling riot should be discovered.
Just a point, and i am not trying to be provocative, but I am sure most of us know more about American Indians than we do about our own native people. I bet most of us could name at least half a dozen American indian tribes, but couldn't name a single aboriginal tribe.
Look i dont know what i am trying to say, i am perplexed by these issues, some here try to paint me as a do gooding bleeding heart towards aborigines. True, i hate racism, and racists, whether they be black white brown or brindal, i merely ask that all aborigines are not tarred with the one brush (pun purely unintended.) and treated as other members of our society are treated.
Is it really necessary for aborigines to be labelled rockapes, apes, things, and protected species?
There are so many issues to cover on this thread, but should it be used to project racial hatred? We saw enough of that on Sunday night.
Instead of being reactionary and stereotypical, the issues behind this appalling riot should be discovered.
Just a point, and i am not trying to be provocative, but I am sure most of us know more about American Indians than we do about our own native people. I bet most of us could name at least half a dozen American indian tribes, but couldn't name a single aboriginal tribe.
Look i dont know what i am trying to say, i am perplexed by these issues, some here try to paint me as a do gooding bleeding heart towards aborigines. True, i hate racism, and racists, whether they be black white brown or brindal, i merely ask that all aborigines are not tarred with the one brush (pun purely unintended.) and treated as other members of our society are treated.
you can not give that excuse, white people are not to blame, what happend happend alon time ago, move on! Dont start on the supposed stolen generation less than 8% of an entire generation were taken, admitedly that was wrong, but its not an entire generaion! the Brittish government, did worse things to many more Australian soldiers with their nuclear testing in the 50s n 60s, but white people do not hold a grudge against the Brittish! They got over it and moved on and realised that at the time no one knew what they were doing was wrong and if you go back to 1877 when white man first came to settle in australia, they didnt understand what they were doing was wrong, they did it to other white settlers in other countries but theres not as bigger fuss in these countries is there! John Howard shouldnt have to say sorry to the Aboriginal people for there supposed stolen genereation, it was not people of our time that did it, it was people in the past and as sorry as i am for it, it is not our problem!
Mobbs
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could just be a tragic ACCIDENT. you dont know, you werent there.
The rioters were made up of people who werent there. Yes there is a witness, but the police als state they werent chasing him.
word against word.
The rioters were in the wrong. No doubt. The police MAY be in the wrong, but we dont know.
Grimfang
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No, but I've been offered heroin by a white man at Flinders Street station and by a Vietnamese bloke at Springvale station, both of whom could have been armed. What, apart from a poor attempt to villfy a section of the community based on the actions of one person, was the point of that remark?
Grimfang
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Re: Re: Re: Aborigines...
No, really Danny. Go back to STORMFRONT and spare us your "intelligence". At least you can't claim to support Windschuttle's revisionist history of Tasmania if you make comments like this.
No, really Danny. Go back to STORMFRONT and spare us your "intelligence". At least you can't claim to support Windschuttle's revisionist history of Tasmania if you make comments like this.
racehorse27
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QUOTE]Originally posted by Fred
As far as I recall, they said they weren't chasing him. That's an excellent reason for denying it. [/QUOTE]
Milkman, I saw the morning news and the witness in question.
for the record
she was not caught up in the hysteria
she did not have a cask in her hand
doubt she was skipping her TAFE course
she wasn't trying to sell the reporter herion
she wasn't calling the police racist scum
she was not american
she matter of factly said she saw the police chasing the boy. Police denied a vicous beating recently in melb until more witnesses came forward.
police did not handle the riot very well (30 officers cowering behind 5 riot shields, no shields above them at the back), police did not handle the media very well (or did they?) and just maybe they didn't handle the boy too well.
does that give the others the right to riot, destroy property and injure police - thats what happens when people don't have a voice in our society. It is the only way they will be heard.
As far as I recall, they said they weren't chasing him. That's an excellent reason for denying it. [/QUOTE]
Milkman, I saw the morning news and the witness in question.
for the record
she was not caught up in the hysteria
she did not have a cask in her hand
doubt she was skipping her TAFE course
she wasn't trying to sell the reporter herion
she wasn't calling the police racist scum
she was not american
she matter of factly said she saw the police chasing the boy. Police denied a vicous beating recently in melb until more witnesses came forward.
police did not handle the riot very well (30 officers cowering behind 5 riot shields, no shields above them at the back), police did not handle the media very well (or did they?) and just maybe they didn't handle the boy too well.
does that give the others the right to riot, destroy property and injure police - thats what happens when people don't have a voice in our society. It is the only way they will be heard.
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Also if the Police had Danny Green's attitude then they may have chased him.
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You are very silly Clive.
Back about 20 years ago members of the ANC in South Africa used to riot all the time because they had no rights whatsover in their own country.
Now they run the country as a legitimate political party.
Whilst the sitaution here is obviously different I am only trying to point out that sometimes people riot because that is the only outlet that they have to protest the way they have been treated as they have either no legal rights or no practical way of using them.
I am sure many Aboriginal people feel that the Australian justice system is not something that can protect them or provide them with an outlet to fix what they see as their problems
This is not to condone the riots in any way but to point out there are reasons why these things happen and for people to make blanket violent statements like yours is just stupid.
Think about it.
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What a stupid statement.
Protected speices??
What is the proof of that - imprisonment rate, child mortality rates, sucide rates.
Its exactly the opposite.
I think you will find that if any kid had died by being impaled on a fence with an allegation that the police had been responsible that a big deal would be made about it. whatever the skin colour or race.
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There are ways to get your point across without racist remarks. Why refer to them as rockapes? All that does is discredit anything else he has to say. It doesnt take balls to use racist remarks or abuse. It takes balls to put across your point without using these remarks.
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No you have it wrong
Too many racist w ankers, not enough brains, education or compassion.
Possibly the whole thread has now stepped into where it should go into the S,C & P board, but perhaps some of you might like to have a read of what happened in the name of race and colour in Detroit in 1967.
Try reading the whole article and picking the similarities.
Could it happen here?
Detroit Riot of 1967
Events
The Detroit Riot of 1967 began when police vice squad officers executed a raid on an after hours drinking club or “blind pig” in a predominantly black neighborhoods located at Twelfth Street and Clairmount Avenue. They were expecting to round up a few patrons, but instead found 82 people inside holding a party for two returning Vietnam veterans. Yet, the officers attempted to arrest everyone who was on the scene. While the police awaited a “clean-up crew” to transport the arrestees, a crowd gathered around the establishment in protest. After the last police car left, a small group of men who were “confused and upset because they were kicked out of the only place they had to go” lifted up the bars of an adjacent clothing store and broke the windows. From this point of origin, further reports of vandalism diffused. Looting and fires spread through the Northwest side of Detroit, then crossed over to the East Side. Within 48 hours, the National Guard was mobilized, to be followed by the 82nd airborne on the riot’s fourth day. As police and military troops sought to regain control of the city, violence escalated. At the conclusion of 5 days of rioting, 43 people lay dead, 1189 injured and over 7000 people had been arrested.
Causes of the Detroit Riot
The origins of urban unrest in Detroit were rooted in a multitude of political, economic, and social factors including police abuse, lack of affordable housing, urban renewal projects, economic inequality, black militancy, and rapid demographic change.
Link to full article
http://www.67riots.rutgers.edu/d_index.htm
Try reading the whole article and picking the similarities.
Could it happen here?
Detroit Riot of 1967
Events
The Detroit Riot of 1967 began when police vice squad officers executed a raid on an after hours drinking club or “blind pig” in a predominantly black neighborhoods located at Twelfth Street and Clairmount Avenue. They were expecting to round up a few patrons, but instead found 82 people inside holding a party for two returning Vietnam veterans. Yet, the officers attempted to arrest everyone who was on the scene. While the police awaited a “clean-up crew” to transport the arrestees, a crowd gathered around the establishment in protest. After the last police car left, a small group of men who were “confused and upset because they were kicked out of the only place they had to go” lifted up the bars of an adjacent clothing store and broke the windows. From this point of origin, further reports of vandalism diffused. Looting and fires spread through the Northwest side of Detroit, then crossed over to the East Side. Within 48 hours, the National Guard was mobilized, to be followed by the 82nd airborne on the riot’s fourth day. As police and military troops sought to regain control of the city, violence escalated. At the conclusion of 5 days of rioting, 43 people lay dead, 1189 injured and over 7000 people had been arrested.
Causes of the Detroit Riot
The origins of urban unrest in Detroit were rooted in a multitude of political, economic, and social factors including police abuse, lack of affordable housing, urban renewal projects, economic inequality, black militancy, and rapid demographic change.
Link to full article
http://www.67riots.rutgers.edu/d_index.htm
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Why am i not surprised by this post?
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Clive you need help. Your parents have obviously failed to teach you any common deceny. I cry for you.
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With such a highly emotive/inflammatory topic, how the hell do you expect NOT to get any?
This is without doubt a massive edit-fest.
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Because it can't. But that's no excuse for people to riot.
The problem is the clashing of two cultures - one of them a couple of thousand years more advanced. The Australian justice cannot fix this and it is also not their job. The Australian justice system makes and enforces laws - for everyone regardless of colour, race, or background.
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They also may have chased him because there was an outstanding warrant on him.
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- #225
If the allegation was that the police chased a person and they had an unfortunate accident whilst being chased, no big deal would have been made of it. Certainly not a riot.
