Adam Goodes lacks courage in the contested situations when he goes in feet first

[mattyflux]

"Have a look"?

I already studied it. First contact is above the knees so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Maybe your monitor is upside down?

Yep thats why Gibbo is seen clutching his ankle after the incident. Stop living in denial. Its a tiny little flaw Goodes has in his game and you Sydney twats cant even acknowledge it!

 

[.Shotties.]

There's some good reading in those threads with many references to other incidents

Is there a reason you decided just to post unlinked thread titles instead of the incidents which were so blatantly obvious?

Even if we ignore the fact that three of those involved incidents where he was found guilty by the MRP (Goodes on report, Goodes 2 footed challenge, and Goodes let off), one of which is talking about his whining to umpires (Adam Goodes - Seriously), one incident involved the Essendon medical team submitting to the tribunal that no high contact had occured, and I can't be arsed with the others...

How exactly do you think posting bigfooty threads backs your argument?

 

[Glasgow Hawk]

So what will all the Sydney supporters have to say when he does it again and no doubt he will. It may not happen again this season, but he will do it again because he has done it before. He obviously this late in his career can't change the way he goes in so maybe that is a flaw in his game. So when it happens to a player from another club, how will you Sydney supporters justify it? If it is not another Hawks player on the receiving end, you will have to come up with something other than losing a GF as your smartarse reply. Do you think you can do that?

 

[worthy]

I think you should go back and watch the grand final DVD goodies put some big hits on.
What part of stomping on somebody's head isn't gutless?

He certainly nailed Rioli.
Goodes is a big boy, he can put some big hits on.

To start with, he didn't stomp on Tallis, he did deliberately tread on his head, stupid - yes, thuggish - yes
Gutless?? - it's a bit of a reach.

 

[worthy]

Is there a reason you decided just to post unlinked thread titles instead of the incidents which were so blatantly obvious?

Even if we ignore the fact that three of those involved incidents where he was found guilty by the MRP (Goodes on report, Goodes 2 footed challenge, and Goodes let off), one of which is talking about his whining to umpires (Adam Goodes - Seriously), one incident involved the Essendon medical team submitting to the tribunal that no high contact had occured, and I can't be arsed with the others...

How exactly do you think posting bigfooty threads backs your argument?

Reason being I don't know how to link the threads.
I did say read through them as there are references to other incidents, I put the effort in, but you can't be arsed, fair enough, thought as much.

 

[tazhawk]

When Dermie hit blokes he quite often ran past the ball and nailed the guy going for it.

Watch any footy in the 80s or are you a new convert to AFL?

 

[mattyflux]

Funny he's calling goodies gutless didn't he stomp on somebody's head now that is gutless!

Funny how not one Sydney fan can actually discuss the incident that took place but rather attack the man. It was a silly thing to do by Goodes, probably not quite reportable but is approaching that line and he has a history of doing this regularly throughout his career. Dangerous act and it needs attention drawn to it.

 

[worthy]

When Dermie hit blokes he quite often ran past the ball and nailed the guy going for it.

He was a thug, we have established that, not once did he hesitate when it was his turn to put his body on the line, actually, not once may be incorrect, but I never saw it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Yep thats why Gibbo is seen clutching his ankle after the incident. Stop living in denial. Its a tiny little flaw Goodes has in his game and you Sydney twats cant even acknowledge it!

1. In all the replays I've seen, from all the different angles, at no time does Gibson even touch his ankle.

2. I said that initial contact (which is all that the MRP would be concerned with), is thigh to thigh, and that's true. Players can hardly be held responsible for what happens after they lose balance.

3. Don't call me a twat.

 

[bungee]

Goodes has played 326 games. It's to be expected that he makes the odd mistake.

Dermie's found a clever way to get fans to look at old footage of him. He's the talk of the town. Not bad for an ageing old fart with fake hair, fake tan and fake teeth. This latest defenestration of any remaining credibility doesn't seem to bother him.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Funny how not one Sydney fan can actually discuss the incident that took place but rather attack the man.

Um, I follow the Swans and I've discussed the incident here ad nauseum.

 

[mattyflux]

C
cause no one gives a flying **** about the incident we just care about a flog in the media bagging our champion.

That flog raised a valid point. I can still hear the crying from Swans fans when Rohan had his leg broken. Goodes is treading a fine line.

 

[worthy]

mattyflux said: ↑

Yep thats why Gibbo is seen clutching his ankle after the incident. Stop living in denial. Its a tiny little flaw Goodes has in his game and you Sydney twats cant even acknowledge it!​

Actually, to be fair, it was the ankle on his other leg he was clutching, he rolled it when Goodes made the clumsy.... whatever it was.

 

[mattyflux]

Um, I follow the Swans and I've discussed the incident here ad nauseum.

Yeah thats right, you're the bloke who thinks he hit Gibson on the thigh despite Gibson clutching his shin.
Sorry, my bad.

 

[Matching Mole]

How on earth is this thread still going?

 

[worthy]

How on earth is this thread still going?

Because people keep posting in it, just like you

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

So what will all the Sydney supporters have to say when he does it again and no doubt he will. It may not happen again this season, but he will do it again because he has done it before. He obviously this late in his career can't change the way he goes in so maybe that is a flaw in his game. So when it happens to a player from another club, how will you Sydney supporters justify it? If it is not another Hawks player on the receiving end, you will have to come up with something other than losing a GF as your smartarse reply. Do you think you can do that?

Except that the MRP declared that he didn't do "it", which is correct if you study the footage, and Brereton has produced nothing from Saturday's game to support his slur on Goodes and the MRP's competence except to say "I think", so what's your point?

This "it" which it has now been established he didn't do last Saturday night, he's going to do it again? As it doesn't exist, how will we know? This is all quite mad!

And just for the record, not once in this thread have I accused Hawks fans of being sore losers from the GF.

 

[mattyflux]

Actually, to be fair, it was the ankle on his other leg he was clutching, he rolled it when Goodes made the clumsy.... whatever it was.

You are right, still got him below the knee on the right leg though.

 

[mattyflux]

Dermie may have been treading a fine line a fair bit of his career aswel

He always tread a fine line. But no-one here is denying that. Unlike you Swans fans who have your heads so far up Adam Goodes bum you can't even acknowledge he may have a technical issue with the way he attacks the ball at times.

 

[Maddo11]

So what will all the Sydney supporters have to say when he does it again and no doubt he will. It may not happen again this season, but he will do it again because he has done it before. He obviously this late in his career can't change the way he goes in so maybe that is a flaw in his game. So when it happens to a player from another club, how will you Sydney supporters justify it? If it is not another Hawks player on the receiving end, you will have to come up with something other than losing a GF as your smartarse reply. Do you think you can do that?

He does have a problem with going in feet first; that challenge on Rioli in the GF posted a couple pages back is quite confronting actually. If that had have happened in the last 7 rounds, he definitely would have spent time watching from the box.

My only major issue with this thread is the massive over reaction of the Hawks fans that are saying he -deliberately- tried to take out Gibbo. To say that he wanted to take out Gibson is just silly, when he's clearly just trying to poke the ball over to Hanners (?) a few meters further up.

Consider Goodes other options (to win -the ball-, not tackle Gibbo after he takes possession) ; - Dive head first toward the ball, give away the free kick and potentially cause Gibson a serious injury (more weight hitting leg). Probably chose the lesser of two evils in that snap second decision.

Dermie is right in saying that Goodes has a problem, but i wouldn't call it a courage problem, just a technical fault in his game.

NB: Ask a sensible question, get a sensible answer.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Yeah thats right, you're the bloke who thinks he hit Gibson on the thigh despite Gibson clutching his shin.
Sorry, my bad.

No, for the umpteenth time, I said the initial contact was thigh on thigh. And that's a fact.

Can you furnish some footage showing Gibson clutching his shin? (Or ankle, as it was in your previous post? Might a copy of Gray's Anatomy come in handy here?)

 

[Gods_Son23]

I love Goodes as a player, but Dermie is pretty much spot on. If you don't think he has been lucky at the tribunal as well over the years you are probably a biased Swans fan.
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Funny he's calling goodies gutless didn't he stomp on somebody's head now that is gutless!

He has acknowledged and regrets some of his actions while he was playing. And just because he was a thug, it doesn't mean he can't call it as he sees it. He was also punished for his actions missing something like 30 games wasn't he...

 

[mattyflux]

He does have a problem with going in feet first; that challenge on Rioli in the GF posted a couple pages back is quite confronting actually. If that had have happened in the last 7 rounds, he definitely would have spent time watching from the box.

My only major issue with this thread is the massive over reaction of the Hawks fans that are saying he -deliberately- tried to take out Gibbo. To say that he wanted to take out Gibson is just silly, when he's clearly just trying to poke the ball over to Hanners (?) a few meters further up.

Consider Goodes other options (to win -the ball-, not tackle Gibbo after he takes possession) ; - Dive head first toward the ball, give away the free kick and potentially cause Gibson a serious injury (more weight hitting leg). Probably chose the lesser of two evils in that snap second decision.

Dermie is right in saying that Goodes has a problem, but i wouldn't call it a courage problem, just a technical fault in his game.

NB: Ask a sensible question, get a sensible answer.

Agree with everything you just said.
Finally!!!!
I dont think Goodsey lacks courage, I think he has an issue he needs to sort before he does break someones leg or worse for you Swans fans gets rubbed out for a month!

 

[worthy]

You are right, still got him below the knee on the right leg though.

It was around the knee, it was ugly and dangerous, lucky not to cause serious injury, Fraser, the MRP chairman?? said that it wasn't referred to the tribunal because Gibson wasn't injured by the contact, would have been a very different result had Gibson been injured, similarly Buddy's headlock.

 

[.Shotties.]

Reason being I don't know how to link the threads.
I did say read through them as there are references to other incidents, I put the effort in, but you can't be arsed, fair enough, thought as much.

You actually didn't put in much effort. If you had you would have read enough to see that multiple threads you posted involved Goodes being found guilty. How on earth does that support your premise that there's been multiple occasions where he should have been suspended and wasn't cited?