Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Skip to 2024

[VicBased]

Watching my team win and fight out close games, knowing that the Simmo thread is always waiting for me when we get solidly beaten by the premiers.

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I reckon , allowing injury, we fought that out against a classier Collingwood.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I reckon , allowing injury, we fought that out against a classier Collingwood.

Me too. No denying the absolute touch up without our best mid and first choice ruck, and the midfield suffered badly as a result. Pulled a few levers and kept the lid on what once would have easily been a biblical 100+ loss.

Would say that puts us at “very bad, bottom four” territory, however that’s bizarrely an upgrade on last year’s side. He’s got his contract, we all know this, so persist through the s**t and see how many green shoots protrude.

Such a non-needle mover of a game in either direction that.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Sorta like trying to flush a large turd, it always floats back up.

Up there with Gunnars speckled space turd

 

[Keys]

He’s been doing enough to shelve any talk of a mid season sacking

He hasn’t been doing well enough to justify any contract extension

When the season is finished there will need to be an honest discussion about what the plan is beyond 2025 because going into next year as a bottom 4 club with an uncontracted coach is a recipe for instability

How we close out this year will have a large influence on what that discussion looks like

 

[kaiserchief13]

How can 1 player out impact the midfield so much? Surely as a coach you don't build a game plan relying on full availability of players? Collingwood were missing 3? Midfielders yet they don't rely on any 1 individual and have a game plan that is plug and play

 

[eaglevision]

How can 1 player out impact the midfield so much? Surely as a coach you don't build a game plan relying on full availability of players? Collingwood were missing 3? Midfielders yet they don't rely on any 1 individual and have a game plan that is plug and play

We’ve neglected our midfield for years in draft and trade so now other than Kelly and Yeo we’re light on pre 2022 Ginbey/Hewett draft for genuine mids. The kids have the ability but need time and now we’re also in a spot where trading for established mids is difficult because we need the picks. So we either accept the shallow midfield until the kids develop or use FA to bring in established mids.

 

[Tugga27]

How can 1 player out impact the midfield so much? Surely as a coach you don't build a game plan relying on full availability of players? Collingwood were missing 3? Midfielders yet they don't rely on any 1 individual and have a game plan that is plug and play

You have to put things in perspective.
It's last years premiers against last year's wooden spooners.

Of course they have a better squad with more depth.

 

[Smotie2]

Don't think anyone can equate anything of the result of this game against Simpson.
Undermanned and less quality depth and playing away with 4 additional players for Collingwood and losing McGovern during the game I'm not surprised the result didn't hit 100 points.

Even Melbourne next week will potentially be a big loss.

We competed and didnt give up.

 

[ziad]

How can 1 player out impact the midfield so much? Surely as a coach you don't build a game plan relying on full availability of players? Collingwood were missing 3? Midfielders yet they don't rely on any 1 individual and have a game plan that is plug and play

Their depth is a wide spread of high quality. After Yoe we fall off a cliff. Kelly is a different player and even he lifted in the second half after being well beaten by numbers.

 

[kaiserchief13]

We’ve neglected our midfield for years in draft and trade so now other than Kelly and Yeo we’re light on pre 2022 Ginbey/Hewett draft for genuine mids. The kids have the ability but need time and now we’re also in a spot where trading for established mids is difficult because we need the picks. So we either accept the shallow midfield until the kids develop or use FA to bring in established mids.

Who's decision to not recruit mids? List manager? Head coach? Ceo? Other? Surely if it was Simpson's decision he can't use it as an excuse

 

[Lazzas]

Who's decision to not recruit mids? List manager? Head coach? Ceo? Other? Surely if it was Simpson's decision he can't use it as an excuse

Coaching staff and List manager would have a big say. Eagles never got access though to top picks because they were successful too long.

The Eagles also used to play more mid forwards which suited there posession game. They also had Nick Nat such a similar ruckman so was partially another reason.

Then the AFL changed the rules 6/6/6 and stand rule and Nick Nat retired. The game has changed and it takes a while to refresh the list profile.

 

[Smotie2]

Coaching staff and List manager would have a big say. Eagles never got access though to top picks because they were successful too long.

The Eagles also used to play more mid forwards which suited there posession game. They also had Nick Nat such a similar ruckman so was partially another reason.

Then the AFL changed the rules 6/6/6 and stand rule and Nick Nat retired. The game has changed and it takes a while to refresh the list profile.

Plus the tk deal ****ed us

 

[Forward Press]

A 60 point drubbing was about ballpark, unfortunately. So many key outs away to the reigning premier, don't know why some were expecting us to take the points.

Plus the tk deal ****ed us

In retrospect, yes.

But hindsight makes heroes of us all. The picks we gave haven't exactly set the AFL world on fire and when you've just won a flag you don't think about rebuilding.

 

[eagles rule]

we won the last quarter so that's something I guess ..

 

[Grahame]

we won the last quarter so that's something I guess ..

Lost the last half by two goals - against the premiers.

Last week won both last Qs - against third placed team.

Not all bad.

 

[MaxHunt]

A 60 point drubbing was about ballpark, unfortunately. So many key outs away to the reigning premier, don't know why some were expecting us to take the points.



In retrospect, yes.

But hindsight makes heroes of us all. The picks we gave haven't exactly set the AFL world on fire and when you've just won a flag you don't think about rebuilding.

The TK deal meant the club needed to have a 75% hit rate on players drafted during that period. Unfortunately it has shown to be nothing close to that. The club also lost DV, one of the players who would be in the perfect age demographic atm. Poor drafting and development is the reason the club has huge holes in the age profile of the list.

 

[Forward Press]

The TK deal meant the club needed to have a 75% hit rate on players drafted during that period. Unfortunately it has shown to be nothing close to that. The club also lost DV, one of the players who would be in the perfect age demographic atm. Poor drafting and development is the reason the club has huge holes in the age profile of the list.

I don't think anyone denies that we've drafted and developed poorly for the most part.

However, the Tim Kelly deal was the right move at the time.

 

[RookiePick]

We've drafted plenty of mids. They were just either all spuds or our development systems for mids sucks(ed?) big time.

Probably a little from both columns as surely we should have snagged one or two roughies from 2014-2022?