Preview AFL 2017 - FW1 - Geelong v Richmond, Fri, 19:50 AEST, Sep 08, 2017

[juss]

Tigers by 10, different side at the MCG.

 

[JayJ20]

Game of the round.

Think the Tigers will win it with Dusty being the difference in the end.

 

[spinynorman]

To the Geelong supporters talking about people tipping Richmond - people like upsets, and this game seems the one where the underdog has the biggest chance of causing one. You're still favourites, and will probably make the Grand Final.

I think this one's basically a coins toss. If I had to predict the coins toss I'd call Geelong. Hopefully as great a match as we're all hoping!

 

[swiftdog]

Gut feel says Tigers. And no Geelong fans, this isn't due to some mystical resentment of Geelong's success, the melts will be next level if Richmond manage a straight sets exit. Geelong's finals record since 2011 isn't that flash, Richmond play the MCG very well and are in good form and Geelong's last showing at the MCG against Collingwood was far from great. Heading into the 2012 PF against Sydney Collingwood's recent record against the Swans, particularly at ANZ Stadium, was fantastic yet I had the feeling then that Sydney would get the win.

Won't be overly surprised either way and think it will be a great match but the gut says Richmond. Think it will be tight before Richmond kick away early in the last quarter to win by 20 points or so.

 

[thecatattack]

Geelong's finals record since 2011 isn't that flash

And Richmonds is?

 

[WagonBang]

So much salt in the air already.

 

[adammania9]

Cats by 9 points

 

[gavaniacono]

Cats showed us up last time. We didnt deal well with positional moves. Dimma got outcoached and his game day coaching will need to step up next week. The club as a whole makes shit decisions under pressure and it needs to stop that this year. There are lots of signs the approach is different and learning happens each week. We will see if the young pups freeze or not on the big stage. We know the old dogs have in the past.

Cats also better than what many think, they play the G well, and have some depth. The pressure on dimma for a finals win applies to scott too who will want to turn performances around and would see this year as a golden opportunity for a flag.

Form history and sense says Cats will have too much. Unless this is a watershed moment - I am thinking 67. It has happened before.

 

[smasha]

It will not be a choke if Richmond lose this,Geelong are second on the ladder but it will hit us hard,I hope we can turn the finals hoodoo around.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Cats to overcome the move of the final from the litter box and continue their hoodoo over the Tigers. Cats by 28.

 

[Suma Magic]

Tigers in a close one.

Definitely game of the round. Footy is just better at the MCG.

 

[romeohwho]

To the Geelong supporters talking about people tipping Richmond - people like upsets, and this game seems the one where the underdog has the biggest chance of causing one. You're still favourites, and will probably make the Grand Final.

I think this one's basically a coins toss. If I had to predict the coins toss I'd call Geelong. Hopefully as great a match as we're all hoping!

Think that 3 of the finals could go either way really and even the swans /bombers match could surprise. We are lucky-no foregone conclusions this year. Yep, here's to a good contest.

 

[Saint]

Cats do well when the opposition is forced to kick down the line to contests which are inevitably dominated by Lonergan, Henderson and Taylor ( or Kolo ). It's easy to force this at KP because it's so narrow.

At the MCG, teams like Collingwood and Essendon were able to expose the height of Geelong's backline (and the speed of their own) by getting the ball in quick and messy from stoppages. Coming out of the backline they move wide and fast and kick to open space for faster forwards to run on to. It's easy to move laterally in defence against Geelong because Hawkins and Menzel are basically non-existent with forward pressure.

Richmond will also be able to do this with their smaller forward line. The problem is that Richmond's backline aren't the best movers of the ball. They'll need to take risks and hit targets. Too often tigers players take the easy option of another sideways or backwards chip.

All the while, you have to counter-act the ability of Dangerfield, Selwood and the other Geelong mids to generate F50 entries.

I think the wet weather will suit the tigers small forwards in that Lonergan, Taylor and Henderson won't take as many marks, but it will also make it more difficult for the tigers to move the ball out of defence the long way. The cats are not the same wet-weather specialists of the Ablett/Bartel/Corey era out of the middle. Dusty and Danger will win plenty of it, the depth midfielders and small forwards will be key.

I'm tipping the tigers 86-80.

 

[demondavey]

If Richmond win then no matter what they get an interstate team as their home Preliminary Final opponent.

What an opportunity that would be for Richmond! Huge home ground + crowd advantage.

Depending on who they play, you'd have to back them in to make the GF from there. It would be a monumental choke if they fluffed a preliminary final, same as Geelong.

 

[demondavey]

Cats do well when the opposition is forced to kick down the line to contests which are inevitably dominated by Lonergan, Henderson and Taylor ( or Kolo ). It's easy to force this at KP because it's so narrow.

At the MCG, teams like Collingwood and Essendon were able to expose the height of Geelong's backline (and the speed of their own) by getting the ball in quick and messy from stoppages. Coming out of the backline they move wide and fast and kick to open space for faster forwards to run on to. It's easy to move laterally in defence against Geelong because Hawkins and Menzel are basically non-existent with forward pressure.

Richmond will also be able to do this with their smaller forward line. The problem is that Richmond's backline aren't the best movers of the ball. They'll need to take risks and hit targets. Too often tigers players take the easy option of another sideways or backwards chip.

All the while, you have to counter-act the ability of Dangerfield, Selwood and the other Geelong mids to generate F50 entries.

I think the wet weather will suit the tigers small forwards in that Lonergan, Taylor and Henderson won't take as many marks, but it will also make it more difficult for the tigers to move the ball out of defence the long way. The cats are not the same wet-weather specialists of the Ablett/Bartel/Corey era out of the middle. Dusty and Danger will win plenty of it, the depth midfielders and small forwards will be key.

I'm tipping the tigers 86-80.

Tipping Dangerfield to start forward this week. Just to stretch out the Tigers defence.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

whoever wins i think will make the GF, whoever loses, straight set losses


hard game to pick

prob cats to win

 

[demondavey]

excluding GF's this game and the Collingwood Geelong PF in 2007 would be the biggest crowds in 40 + years...unless someone else can think of one?

Hawthorn & Geelong qualifying final in 2011, 2014 and 2016? Hawthorn & Geelong preliminary final in 2013?

Reckon some of those games would go close.

 

[HTT]

Hawthorn & Geelong qualifying final in 2011, 2014 and 2016? Hawthorn & Geelong preliminary final in 2013?

Reckon some of those games would go close.

Surprisingly, none of those games cracked 90.
Recent non-GF-but-finals crowds over 90 include
Richmond v North 2015 EF, 90,186
Richmond v Carlton 2013 EF, 94,690
Carlton v Essendon 2011 EF, 90,370
Collingwood v Geelong 2010 PF, 95,241
Geelong v Collingwood 2007 PF, 98,002

 

[Alwaysacrow]

I'm jumping on the Tiger train for this one. I too think that the MCG plus possible wet weather will favour Richmond + I'd love to see a Crows vs Richmond GF.

 

[Gydafud]

I wonder what factor the weather will play. Will any of the MCC walk-ups be effected by this?

 

[HighFlyer]

We didn't have Selwood or Hawkins so surely they could beat us despite one side of the ground being thinner?

Don't think the size of the ground helped Taylor towel Rance.

Nope that was a football Lesson Taylor gave him. I actually think having Hawkins out helped that day. Geelong lowered their eyes, played smarter and hit up targets better inside and it wasn't run out quickly.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Judging by this thread might be good idea for the precious Cats fans to not leave the safety of the Geelong board...

 

[fpm84]

Think the Tigers will win it with Dusty being the difference in the end.

If only we had a match-winning superstar midfielder of our own....

 

[JohnZ]

Judging by this thread might be good idea for the precious Cats fans to not leave the safety of the Geelong board...

Cats love being the underdogs. Don't think you'll see many Cat supporters upset by the tide of opposition supporters going for the tigies.

 

[Munich]

Definitely game of the round. Footy is just better at the MCG.

Agreed.

It's going to be a special night no matter the outcome I reckon.