Preview AFL 2017 - FW1 - Geelong v Richmond, Fri, 19:50 AEST, Sep 08, 2017

[Munich]

Cats to overcome the move of the final from the litter box and continue their hoodoo over the Tigers. Cats by 28.

There was no move, we were never guaranteed a home final, regardless of opponent.

 

[Tiger71]

ha nice melt.
Don't know about flag but prelim should be attained. Serious embarrassment to lose next Friday.

Whats your recent finals record 2-6 ? embarrassment for the cats just as well as the tigers.

 

[Tiger71]

Cats do well when the opposition is forced to kick down the line to contests which are inevitably dominated by Lonergan, Henderson and Taylor ( or Kolo ). It's easy to force this at KP because it's so narrow.

At the MCG, teams like Collingwood and Essendon were able to expose the height of Geelong's backline (and the speed of their own) by getting the ball in quick and messy from stoppages. Coming out of the backline they move wide and fast and kick to open space for faster forwards to run on to. It's easy to move laterally in defence against Geelong because Hawkins and Menzel are basically non-existent with forward pressure.

Richmond will also be able to do this with their smaller forward line. The problem is that Richmond's backline aren't the best movers of the ball. They'll need to take risks and hit targets. Too often tigers players take the easy option of another sideways or backwards chip.

All the while, you have to counter-act the ability of Dangerfield, Selwood and the other Geelong mids to generate F50 entries.

I think the wet weather will suit the tigers small forwards in that Lonergan, Taylor and Henderson won't take as many marks, but it will also make it more difficult for the tigers to move the ball out of defence the long way. The cats are not the same wet-weather specialists of the Ablett/Bartel/Corey era out of the middle. Dusty and Danger will win plenty of it, the depth midfielders and small forwards will be key.

I'm tipping the tigers 86-80.

I do not know if you are trolling or have not watched richmond play this year, outside of our game ?

We are one of the least possession sides in the comp, while also being one of the highest inside 50 sides. This year, its bloody rare we chip sideways or backwards. When our back line receives the ball, we run and kick long to a contest. Its also why we are ranked number 2 for time in forward half.

 

[Saint]

I do not know if you are trolling or have not watched richmond play this year, outside of our game ?

We are one of the least possession sides in the comp, while also being one of the highest inside 50 sides. This year, its bloody rare we chip sideways or backwards. When our back line receives the ball, we run and kick long to a contest. Its also why we are ranked number 2 for time in forward half.

Watched the last quarter and a half of the Geelong Richmond game yesterday on Fox Footy for fathers' day. It seems that was your problem. Perhaps it's from watching more Richmond last year, you're right, but playing back down the line will mean you will definitely lose. You'll go sideways next Friday from the backline. Anyone with half a brain would against Geelong.

 

[Scanlens Man]

Should be a great game. Read somewhere Richmond had won 9 out of 11 at the G this year, I didnt realise that. Defeats by Freo (after siren) and Sydney (9 points after leading by 6 goals)

Their style must stack up their at the G.

 

[thecatattack]

Whats your recent finals record 2-6 ? embarrassment for the cats just as well as the tigers.

what's your finals record in the last 20 years?

 

[Blues_Man]

Should be a good contest, but i will take the Cats in this one

 

[smasha]

There was no move, we were never guaranteed a home final, regardless of opponent.

You play home games at the G.

 

[Munich]

You play home games at the G.

Why am I not surprised a Tigers fan struggles with this stuff.

I honestly don't know how some of you get through your daily lives

 

[manboob]

I'm jumping on the Tiger train for this one. I too think that the MCG plus possible wet weather will favour Richmond + I'd love to see a Crows vs Richmond GF.

Of course you would

 

[manboob]

I think the wet weather will suit the tigers small forwards in that Lonergan, Taylor and Henderson won't take as many marks, but it will also make it more difficult for the tigers to move the ball out of defence the long way. The cats are not the same wet-weather specialists of the Ablett/Bartel/Corey era out of the middle. Dusty and Danger will win plenty of it, the depth midfielders and small forwards will be key.

I'm tipping the tigers 86-80.

Richmond also like to move the ball quickly which is made tougher in wet weather. Sure going to be an interesting match.

 

[JohnZ]

You play home games at the G.

Just like you play home games at Etihad. Reluctantly and at the discretion of the AFL, not from your own choice.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Geelong favourites, rightly so. Reckon they win by 4 goals.

But boy oh boy, woweeee!! Their supporters, bristling more than BT......

If they do happen to lose, wtf will happen in here then?

 

[manboob]

Geelong favourites, rightly so. Reckon they win by 4 goals.

But boy oh boy, woweeee!! Their supporters, bristling more than BT......

If they do happen to lose, wtf will happen in here then?

We will probably complain about the bye before the finals

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

We will probably complain about the bye before the finals

Ahhh, but so you (we) should. Don't like it at all. Overreaction to two teams in particular resting players in the final week.

It does mean that Selwood gets back though.........

 

[Munich]

Ahhh, but so you (we) should. Don't like it at all. Overreaction to two teams in particular resting players in the final week.

It does mean that Selwood gets back though.........

Hope we rest him.

Don't want him rushed back against your pack of numpties.

 

[sprockets]

Richmond also like to move the ball quickly which is made tougher in wet weather. Sure going to be an interesting match.

^This. Anyone that thinks our game style is an advantage in the wet doesn't understand it. We rely on clean ball handling.

 

[Saint]

^This. Anyone that thinks our game style is an advantage in the wet doesn't understand it. We rely on clean ball handling.

Compared to the cats tall defenders, it will advantage Richmond's small forwards. But with ball movement it will certainly not favour Richmond in other parts of the ground.

 

[telsor]

Just like you play home games at Etihad. Reluctantly and at the discretion of the AFL, not from your own choice.

Yeah, sure...and when was the last year you played 11 Home games at KP?

 

[aCunningPlan]

^This. Anyone that thinks our game style is an advantage in the wet doesn't understand it. We rely on clean ball handling.

Unlike us who fumble the ball rain, hail or shine! And yet we still finished second with a difficult draw, who knows why??? The rain will have no impact on us at all, it will be frustrating to watch us regardless.

 

[JohnZ]

Yeah, sure...and when was the last year you played 11 Home games at KP?

The last time we played a full season at KP was 1969, before Waverly opened and the VFL moved home games to make money on us. Been that way ever since. We detest Melbourne games more than you detest Etihad games. It's no fun for anyone...

 

[swiftdog]

And Richmonds is?

Also poor obviously. That wasn't the only argument I made for why I think Richmond will win though...

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Dead set, it's Geelong vs the world.

The Cats supporters come across to me as having the biggest chips on their shoulders I've seen.

The preview thread on the Cats board....fml...Richmond may as well not turn up, the game has already been run and won. We the Tiges are going out in straight sets blah blah blah. The lack of respect for fellow top 4 aspirants is stupefying.

Now, this may be a stretch for some, but not everyone hates Geelong. Most admire them. (leaving the Cats v Hawks rivalry out of this). Bartel & Enright woud have to be two of my favourite players the last 20yrs.

Remember last year? The Dogs dream run? So many people backed the Dogs on the way through, especially v Swans in Granny.
Cats fans, was this because everyone hated the Swans? No. They recognised the Swans had some recent success, and supported the underdog.

People not wishing the Cats to win isn't a hate thing. It's a recognition of success you have achieved, and to some extent realising that if Tiges get through, they are this years underdog, due to our shitness over a sustained period.

You feels hard done by because people want the Tiges to win? Get over yourselves. All I read is we are shit in finals, straight sets, our record v Cats is shit yada yada yada. You are not the only side copping spit.

**** me......I just want a great game of footy, and both sides to play really well. A well umpired game with no controversy so we can just say the best team won.

Seriously, good luck for the finals, play well.

 

[thecatattack]

The preview thread on the Cats board....fml...Richmond may as well not turn up, the game has already been run and won. We the Tiges are going out in straight sets blah blah blah. The lack of respect for fellow top 4 aspirants is stupefying.

Ironic considering your board thinks you'll smash a team you haven't beaten in 11yrs and that finished above you

 

[Power Raid]

And Richmonds is?

Undefeated?