AFL Canberra Div 3, div 4 (Canb Dist) Part 2

[Growling Ferret]

The Rules changed...

In AFL Canberra Rules Manual V1
AFL Canberra Division 3 & 4 & ACTWAFL
A player must have played a minimum of 4 games in the grade they are playing in for finals


In AFL Canberra Rules Manual V2
AFL Canberra Division 3 & 4
Unless a player has played with a Club in four or more matches in any Division in a season he must not represent that club in the finals matches for that season (subject to AFL Canberra By Laws 7.2.1, 2 and 3)

AFL Canberra Bylaws
7.2.1 Unless a player has played with a Club in four or more matches in any Division in a season he must not represent that club in the finals matches for that season.
1. Any player who has played in a total of nine or more home and away matches of a higher Division(s) shall not be eligible to play final matches in a lower Division except:
a) A player – who has played more than nine games in a higher grade(s) – can represent his club in the immediate lower division final only if the teams are playing on the same day/weekend.
b) In the instance that there is no team in an immediate lower division, then a player must have played at least four games in the lowest division available. Example Only: XYZ
Club has Division 1 and Division 2 and a team in Division 4 of AFL Canberra. A player can only drop to the Division 4 team during the finals if he is eligible as per 7.2.1, 7.2.1.1 and 7.2.1.1(a)

The Jets used the (changed) rules to their advantage.

 

[LongHaul]

Blues vs ANU should be a cracker, but the Blues have lost 3 with injury at this stage. Our depth will be tested this weekend.

Not sure how ANU pulled up but the reports from the boys at the ground said it was a hard and tough match and there would be some sore boys today.


Nov4 - Jets stacking their side? I don't think so. Ports has missed most the year injured and played the majority of games in 4's.

I didn't think you could play 4's if you had played more games in 3's though... Or am I wrong?

That is correct GF. If you played more than 8 (could be 9) games in Div 3 you cannot drop back for finals.

Nov4 needs to read sporting pulse correct, not that you can rely on that data to be 100%. I count more than 6 players who played Div 4 all yr. With the amount of players a 2 team club like Jets have to select from, coupled with injuries play a big part but it sounds like Nov4 is a little bitter he may play for a side who has not seen finals in quite sometime.

Honestly if you have to spend so much time on the INTERNET comparing playing lists for 18 rounds then you really have no life, to then get on an INTERNET FORUM to complain only reinforces that fact.

Good luck to all teams playing for a spot this weekend, going to be some cracker games I think.

Did ANU 4's go to the Jets Swans game to check out performances?

Any tips for the weekend??

 

[Big Daddy M]

The most disturbing part of the whole thing was the ANU drunks in the stands giving it to Griggs as he lay not moving, clearly in a very bad way. It was poor form, and i think they should be pretty embarrassed by that.

This is interesting as there were similar comments made when a Jetsplayer. was knocked out against ANU earlier in the year.

GF I think it only rained on and off throughout our game. Greenway wasn't a bad deck IMO, maybe a little hard as my shoulder is still caning from a fall I took.

I watched half of the ANU v Harman game, it was a very tough, very close first half.

Woden v ANU will be very interesting.

 

[LongHaul]

The most disturbing part of the whole thing was the ANU drunks in the stands giving it to Griggs as he lay not moving, clearly in a very bad way. It was poor form, and i think they should be pretty embarrassed by that.

This is interesting as there were similar comments made when a Jetsplayer. was knocked out against ANU earlier in the year.

GF I think it only rained on and off throughout our game. Greenway wasn't a bad deck IMO, maybe a little hard as my shoulder is still caning from a fall I took.

I watched half of the ANU v Harman game, it was a very tough, very close first half.

Woden v ANU will be very interesting.

That is just weak as pi$$ giving it to someone who has the guts to get out on the field and give it a red hot go.

Naturally those guys only had dutch courage behind them, weak pricks.

Anyone know how he is?

 

[The only saint]

That is correct GF. If you played more than 8 (could be 9) games in Div 3 you cannot drop back for finals.

Nov4 needs to read sporting pulse correct, not that you can rely on that data to be 100%. I count more than 6 players who played Div 4 all yr. With the amount of players a 2 team club like Jets have to select from, coupled with injuries play a big part but it sounds like Nov4 is a little bitter he may play for a side who has not seen finals in quite sometime.

Honestly if you have to spend so much time on the INTERNET comparing playing lists for 18 rounds then you really have no life, to then get on an INTERNET FORUM to complain only reinforces that fact.

Good luck to all teams playing for a spot this weekend, going to be some cracker games I think.

Did ANU 4's go to the Jets Swans game to check out performances?

Any tips for the weekend??

Yeah everyone caried on about this eligibilty crap last year (including me) just deal with it, get over it and move on
Ive got no idea whos gunna win this weekend to close to call and whoever wins i think the GF will be exactly the same

 

[Hog49]

That is just weak as pi$$ giving it to someone who has the guts to get out on the field and give it a red hot go.

Naturally those guys only had dutch courage behind them, weak pricks.

Anyone know how he is?

Cammy said last night that he was alright. Broken Collarbone. But clear of any serious head injury.
Harman are really going to miss him in the GF

 

[nov4]

The Rules changed...

In AFL Canberra Rules Manual V1
AFL Canberra Division 3 & 4 & ACTWAFL
A player must have played a minimum of 4 games in the grade they are playing in for finals


In AFL Canberra Rules Manual V2
AFL Canberra Division 3 & 4
Unless a player has played with a Club in four or more matches in any Division in a season he must not represent that club in the finals matches for that season (subject to AFL Canberra By Laws 7.2.1, 2 and 3)

AFL Canberra Bylaws
7.2.1 Unless a player has played with a Club in four or more matches in any Division in a season he must not represent that club in the finals matches for that season.
1. Any player who has played in a total of nine or more home and away matches of a higher Division(s) shall not be eligible to play final matches in a lower Division except:
a) A player – who has played more than nine games in a higher grade(s) – can represent his club in the immediate lower division final only if the teams are playing on the same day/weekend.
b) In the instance that there is no team in an immediate lower division, then a player must have played at least four games in the lowest division available. Example Only: XYZ
Club has Division 1 and Division 2 and a team in Division 4 of AFL Canberra. A player can only drop to the Division 4 team during the finals if he is eligible as per 7.2.1, 7.2.1.1 and 7.2.1.1(a)

The Jets used the (changed) rules to their advantage.

And to be honest it doesnt affect me at all, I just think that would be against the spirit of the game but hey if that is what they want to do to try and win the premiership then good luck to em i just think its poor form

 

[RSPumpa]

And to be honest it doesnt affect me at all, I just think that would be against the spirit of the game but hey if that is what they want to do to try and win the premiership then good luck to em i just think its poor form

Mate
There are plenty of clubs that do the same - one club three peated by hanging around div two with a stacked side, have a look at a few clubs pumped up by former actafl div one players - its a blight and the fact is the honest clubs are few and far between - hollow victories - maybe but apparently Michale Jackson just passed awy - what the?

 

[shanefos]

The most disturbing part of the whole thing was the ANU drunks in the stands giving it to Griggs as he lay not moving, clearly in a very bad way. It was poor form, and i think they should be pretty embarrassed by that.

This is interesting as there were similar comments made when a Jetsplayer. was knocked out against ANU earlier in the year.

GF I think it only rained on and off throughout our game. Greenway wasn't a bad deck IMO, maybe a little hard as my shoulder is still caning from a fall I took.

I watched half of the ANU v Harman game, it was a very tough, very close first half.

Woden v ANU will be very interesting.

I wasn't there on Sunday, but I know (as I'm sure everyone here does too) that a lot of stupid and offensive things are often said in the heat of the moment both on and off the field (and if lager is involved, this usually exacerbates things no end).

But I'm sure that the blokes in question regret their comments (at least I hope they do!) and like all decent human beings they'd be wishing the players involved all the best and a speedy recovery.

I was at the ANU V Gungahlin game you referred to and I know for a fact that the comments made that day have caused a fair bit of shame to the parties concerned.

Interestingly, there's been no mention of the ANU player involved in the collision with Griggs. Granted, he hasn't broken any bones (well, I hope not anyway!), but he was in a pretty bad way too.
Hope both blokes are okay and are back on the park as soon as possible.

 

[Growling Ferret]

Mate
There are plenty of clubs that do the same - one club three peated by hanging around div two with a stacked side, have a look at a few clubs pumped up by former actafl div one players - its a blight and the fact is the honest clubs are few and far betweenQUOTE]

RSP

You've bene here 30 seconds and making cheap allegations about my club. Get over yourself. Did you complain when the Kingston Wolves were the best CD's Club winning premierships in both grades?

Anyway, I'll take that cheap shot at the Woden Blues and give you facts which you might find useful.

Stacked side? The 2002-2004 Blues Premiership side was a bunch of genuine 4th graders with one VERY good midfielder in Wharto, a dominant ruckman, and a full forward who never missed.
We had a ruckman who had never played AFL before joining the Blues - being a former Olympic Volleyballer was a good start though.
We also had a 35 year old full forward who was better than every other one at the time. All 3 of these players never played again after the 04 Grand Final.

We were lucky in that we had a heap of guys who were 19-25, a group that started in 99/00 and stuck with it for 5 years of footy and heavy drinking . We then had a number of ex Marist kids come back to footy in 2002 after being used and abused by the system at Eastlake, and that group played together for three years, then spread to the ends of the earth. The year after the third flag, just 9 players were still with the club - the rest had all retired or gone interstate or OS. The move up almost killed the Blues but its been for the better long term.

As for former Div 1 players, Woden have been lucky enough to get a number of ex-Wildcats players when the club went belly up. Of those, 4 of the 5 were guys I went to school with who we'd been talking about playing together since our early 20's who came across the year before Weston Creek folded. Hardly 'poaching' when its a bunch of 32+ year olds who still want to play footy, pay their fees like everyone else and contribute to the club.

I wonder how this is 'dishonest' and a blight on football.

So RSP, where do your allegiances lie?

 

[3rd Grade Maggy]

.....
So RSP, where do your allegiances lie?

I'd look slightly south of the Irish Club. Maybe 3 suburbs or so.

 

[Richard Gerbil]

and people wonder why nobody posts here. You two morons are the worst advertisement for football in Canberra. Can you two bell ends shut the ***** up or ***** off?

Ando - stop crying like a baby. Getting upset over some anonymous coward baiting you on the internet is a waste of time and energy. Get over it.

Gee growling one - maybe you should take your own advice and not get upset at The Pumpa - you guys will be premiers in 2 weeks and the most successful club ever, best set of bloes ever, masters of the universe, largest genitalia, three peat b grade premiers, stars of your own anvs festival, sculling champions of octoberfest, toughest guys allive, ivory tower owners etc - not a pack of choking w@nkrs - as someone described my club recently

 

[RSPumpa]

I'd look slightly south of the Irish Club. Maybe 3 suburbs or so.

I wanted to poost on the blues own blog - but its closed to only team members - what tear your part dresses cos someone objected to you bagging people - such as other teams umpires and fans - tell a revising history all you like - a polished grand final winning piece of doggie poop is just that - doggie poop admiring its own reflection = get out to civic sometimes with your teamates ferret - they are a really solid club who liove their coach and teamates - including your schoolmate imports

 

[BoonDawg]

The most disturbing part of the whole thing was the ANU drunks in the stands giving it to Griggs as he lay not moving, clearly in a very bad way. It was poor form, and i think they should be pretty embarrassed by that.

I was at the game and sitting in the middle of the ANU crowd. I can tell you mate none of us were giving to Griggs. It was a sickening hit, and for both players to go in as hard as they did was pure courage. We were all applauding the effort by the ANU player, as one does when a fellow club member goes in as hard as he did.
While Griggs was on the ground the ANU player staggered off the ground to which the crowd was yelling out what a great effort he had put in. Not once did anyone yell out abuse at the opposition player.

All members of the ANU crowd also applauded Griggs the entire way off the ground.


To the poster who was wondering how the ANU player pulled up:
I believe he is injury free.. Came off for a while to get this breath back, but played out the rest of the game.

 

[Richard Gerbil]

RS Poo Pumpa - You are silly - but too funny - get back to Quamby and put the crack pipe down - Although to be fair I just checked - the Woden Blues blog is disabled - bit silly from a guy who gets on here and offers advice to others not to get too upset isn't it

But go on Ferrett - tell us how your club has contributed to footy (or even to a charity day) like the other clubs - so in essence that's about the size of it - you are a one team club interested only in yourselves and basking glory - and how did you survive those tumultuous years in one's - you went up to one's in 05 - and played finals in 07 - oh the struggle - what a momentuous effort

Why did you not want to go up to 1's for three years with the gun midfielder, volleyball ruckman and old full forwrad - there are plenty of 35 plusers playing in the country sides - you know?

 

[RSPumpa]

Did you complain when the Kingston Wolves were the best CD's Club winning premierships in both grades?


Gee thats a clever argument - both grades - do you want me to help you with the maths - you stayed in the lower grade and three peated - belting most people's second sides and country clubs who struggled for numbers - Wolves had a side in both grades - hence they weren't cherry picking opposition - you argued to stay down - juggers didn't get the same opportunity - then stayed with one team - Jugs won one - got pushed up - and built two teams - both of whom has played finals - Wolves put two teams up and matched it with everyone - you stayed where you were - feel good about yourself all day - the voraciousness of your defence suggests that just maybe there is a load of reality in my remarks

 

[RSPumpa]

I wasn't there on Sunday, but I know (as I'm sure everyone here does too) that a lot of stupid and offensive things are often said in the heat of the moment both on and off the field (and if lager is involved, this usually exacerbates things no end).

But I'm sure that the blokes in question regret their comments (at least I hope they do!) and like all decent human beings they'd be wishing the players involved all the best and a speedy recovery.

I was at the ANU V Gungahlin game you referred to and I know for a fact that the comments made that day have caused a fair bit of shame to the parties concerned.

Interestingly, there's been no mention of the ANU player involved in the collision with Griggs. Granted, he hasn't broken any bones (well, I hope not anyway!), but he was in a pretty bad way too.
Hope both blokes are okay and are back on the park as soon as possible.

No good singling any club out - plenty of clubs hurl mud at injured players - coaches have done it - players - supporters - its another blight on the game

That's two for today already

 

[The Spoiler]

And I thought I was the only pain in the ring on this forum. I've been usurped.

Must be mad monday somewhere in town .....

 

[RSPumpa]

And I thought I was the only pain in the ring on this forum. I've been usurped.

Must be mad monday somewhere in town .....

I tell you what is a pain ion the ring - the woden match reports - is it true that the bloke who writres them writes about himself in 3rd person - and then describes himself as having fists of fury and even names himself inteh best

Now thats worse than three peating in twos and being proud of it

 

[RSPumpa]

Michale Jackson tributes are also a blight on game - but worthy

 

[twobobs]

Michale Jackson tributes are also a blight on game - but worthy

Wow, some angry people out there!

From what I can gather - a few people are p!ssed at Gungahlin for apparently "stacking" their 4s team. Get over it. (It is good that the heat is of Belconnen in this instance for once though!!). They are playing within the rules so all you one team clubs if you wanna bang on about how unfair it is here is your solution - field teams in both grades. Better still, understand that there are players who may play a few games of 4s during the year but then due to good form are called up into the 3s when injuries/unavailability become selection factors. They play less than 9 games in 3s and then returns to 4s late in the season - and then some of you twits get on here and say "oh, it is so unfair, these guys have played 3s so they shouldnt be allowed back to 4s". You are basically having a go at players that answer the senior coach's call for help during the season. They also have an opportunity to better themselves as footballers. I know Schoie from Gungahlin from on the field, (Not too well off it) and I can tell you that he would not start stacking a 4s team late in the season when his team needed wins to make 3s finals.
Next: Woden. Good luck if they hung around for 3 in a row in 4s. Get over it. They have moved on and are deep into finals action in 3s and whilst it was a rocky start for them in 3s, they are now a better club for it according to Ferret so that is the important part.
Next: ANU Crowd. They pay their money, let them say what they want (excluding racial stuff/sexist/personal stuff). I have copped a spray from them a few times, but I would rather play in front of 200 ANU fans that hate my guts than one or two people that just happen to be walking their dog and stop to watch the footy. I dont know Griggs, but he probably doesnt remember anything they said, but if he did he probably wouldnt care. Sticks and stones lads....
Next: Kingston Wolves. Who?

Finally, Good luck to everyone still left in the finals race. If you are so upset about qualification by laws, crowd comments, clubs not moving up a grade, or where an opposition club poached their players from, grab some rope, find a tree and do us all a favour.

 

[The Spoiler]

I tell you what is a pain ion the ring - the woden match reports - is it true that the bloke who writres them writes about himself in 3rd person - and then describes himself as having fists of fury and even names himself inteh best

Now thats worse than three peating in twos and being proud of it

And so a rivalry was born. Back to the Kambah Tav you knuckle dragging flanno wearing toss.

 

[LongHaul]

Wow, some angry people out there!

From what I can gather - a few people are p!ssed at Gungahlin for apparently "stacking" their 4s team. Get over it. (It is good that the heat is of Belconnen in this instance for once though!!). They are playing within the rules so all you one team clubs if you wanna bang on about how unfair it is here is your solution - field teams in both grades. Better still, understand that there are players who may play a few games of 4s during the year but then due to good form are called up into the 3s when injuries/unavailability become selection factors. They play less than 9 games in 3s and then returns to 4s late in the season - and then some of you twits get on here and say "oh, it is so unfair, these guys have played 3s so they shouldnt be allowed back to 4s". You are basically having a go at players that answer the senior coach's call for help during the season. They also have an opportunity to better themselves as footballers. I know Schoie from Gungahlin from on the field, (Not too well off it) and I can tell you that he would not start stacking a 4s team late in the season when his team needed wins to make 3s finals.
Next: Woden. Good luck if they hung around for 3 in a row in 4s. Get over it. They have moved on and are deep into finals action in 3s and whilst it was a rocky start for them in 3s, they are now a better club for it according to Ferret so that is the important part.
Next: ANU Crowd. They pay their money, let them say what they want (excluding racial stuff/sexist/personal stuff). I have copped a spray from them a few times, but I would rather play in front of 200 ANU fans that hate my guts than one or two people that just happen to be walking their dog and stop to watch the footy. I dont know Griggs, but he probably doesnt remember anything they said, but if he did he probably wouldnt care. Sticks and stones lads....
Next: Kingston Wolves. Who?

Finally, Good luck to everyone still left in the finals race. If you are so upset about qualification by laws, crowd comments, clubs not moving up a grade, or where an opposition club poached their players from, grab some rope, find a tree and do us all a favour.

I concur, and very well put.

 

[2old2slow]

I concur, and very well put.

I agree, with the exception that I was under the impression that sensible posts must have been banned from this site, red card that man sir

 

[up da middle]

And I thought I was the only pain in the ring on this forum. I've been usurped.

Must be mad monday somewhere in town .....

not the only one but you are the biggest

good luck to all teams this weekend. i bet goulburn are as nervous as shit, i think they will have a point to prove and just win and also woden to win in a close one. that would leave two uni teams on a mad monday at once. oh oh.