Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2022 - Tsatas, Hayes, Davey x2, Munkara & Montgomerie

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[Lore]

How AFL great is helping Essendon father-son prepare for draft

“That’s basically how we selected.”

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Highly touted draft prospect Alwyn Davey

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Jnr is destined to become an Essendon player later this month after nominating the Bombers under the father-son rule.

Alwyn Jnr, alongside his twin Jayden, will head to Tullamarine as exciting small forwards, much like their father Alwyn who played 100 games in the red and black.

While it seemed like they’d always be destined to follow in their father’s footsteps, the pair only officially nominated in October but Alwyn Jnr said it was “just a matter of time” before they’d commit to the bombers.

“I was having a talk with my manager, which is Jules Petracca,” Davey Jnr said on SEN Sportsday.

“We had a talk and thought we were saying we will nominate, it’s just a matter of time when.

“That’s basically how we selected.”

Both Alwyn Jnr and Jayden hail from Darwin but attended high school at Melbourne’s Xavier College.

With their schooling now behind them, Alwyn Jnr says he’s moved in with AFL great Eddie Betts, who is now plying his trade in Darwin for NTFL club Palmerston.

“I got through that challenge, I finished on Monday with the PE exams so I’m very excited,” Davey Jnr said.

“I’m staying at Eddie Betts’ house right now.

“He’s flying in and flying out (from Darwin) at the moment.

“I don’t know how Anna (his wife) is going to be dealing with that with him travelling all the time.

“It is pretty hectic.”

Alwyn Jnr is rated as a potential first-round pick and he says he hopes to make his AFL debut early in the season.


“I don’t want to be too arrogant,” Davey Jnr said.

“I play mostly a high forward or midfield, and I’d say if I really want to push for a round, it’d be Round 3 (to make my debut).”

If Davey Jnr does slot into the senior team, that could be alongside returning forward Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

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who on Thursday backflipped on his decision to retire.

“I was very happy,” Davey Jnr said of McDonald-Tipungwuti’s decision to return.

“I did a bit of pre-season with him before so I’m really happy he’s back at the Bombers.”

Both Daveys look set to head to Essendon when this year’s National Draft takes place across the 28th and 29th of November.

 

[eth-dog]

Saw Alwyn walking around the inner south eastern suburbs today. Didn't realise it was him until 5 minutes later haha

 

[Yoda_]

Watching highlights of Clark makes me think he would be a much better fit for us than any of the other names being linked to us.

knowing us, we'll do something dumb

 

[fairbump_playon]

Some years there would be absolute consensus on a top 5. Feel like there are 7 names for our pick getting tossed around with high conviction. There will be a lot of unhappy people on draft night.

For example, we pick Clark and then people are very displeased with the one height midfield vibe.

 

[Yoda_]

Szybkowski screams Daniel Cross and I am perfectly fine with that if it means we have a 200 game player on our hands.

 

[fishardansin]

Please Munkara. Lets hope the other clubs do the right thing. Tippa, Daveys and Rioli says to me that coming here this year will be the best place for him.

 

[BrunoV]

Barnett is interesting.
Wonder if that's insurance against Bryan likely opting to leave next year.
Really question the strategy though. Draper is odds on our #1 ruck for the next 10 years. You can support him with Wright or other kids (Bryan even, if he can find a 2nd role as a fwd or def).

I'd say it's more being time to start the next project.

Bryan is 5th year in 2024. He's gotta be good enough to hold down the number 2 spot as a fifth year.

Given how long it has taken Draper and Bryan to come on a guy drafted in 2023 can't really be expected to be ready before 2027/2028.

It would be strange to invest more draft capital in another tall. I suppose if they think he's one out of the box who could also be a potential key forward it makes some sense.

It's not what I would be doing. I'd use a cat B rookie spot on a 7' athlete.

 

[bomberland33]

Phillipou, three interviews

Herald Sun Report :

DONS DRAFT DOMINO TO SHAPE TOP 10​

Essendon is set to shape the top-10 of this month’s draft with their prized selection at pick four the domino that can shake up the order.

As has been the case in previous years with the notoriously cryptic Bombers, those in the draft space are finding it difficult to get a read on who they will take with their first pick – which will be at No. 5 after Will Ashcroft’s expected bid inside the first two selections.

A host of midfielders – Elijah Tsatas, Mattaes Phillipou, Reuben Ginbey, Bailey Humphrey and recently Elijah Hewett – have been linked to the Bombers’ prized pick.

Essendon has shown strong interest in South Australian Phillipou, a dynamic 190cm prospect who is the son of former Bulldog Sam, with the club interviewing him three times in the lead-up.

Top South Australian AFL draft prospect Mattaes Phillipou, with his dad, Sam, and grandfather, Peter, who are both former Eagles. Picture: Dean Martin
The midfielder-forward would bring something different to their midfield mix with his height, composure in traffic and his capacity to be used in attack.

Tsatas has been billed as a top-five selection throughout the year despite sitting out most of the year with injury, with the ball magnet adding inside skills his damaging outside game in a stellar season where he won Oakleigh Chargers’ best and fairest from just five matches.

But the 187cm midfielder could be as a potential slider in the top 10 if the Bombers look elsewhere, with the Bombers’ selection poised to have a significant say on what happens next.

Geelong Falcons prospect Jhye Clark has been strongly linked to Geelong’s selection, while West Australian youngster Ginbey is unlikely to get past West Coast’s selection (pick nine after Ashcroft bid), with the athletic midfielder also linked to both Essendon and Gold Coast.

Humphrey, who bolted into top-10 calculations with his game-breaking feats as a powerful midfielder and dangerous forward, is expected to be taken anywhere from the Bombers’ selection to Carlton’s at pick 11.

 

[bomberland33]

And a possible Rnd 2, Selection with the pending Alwyn Davey

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jnr bid.

Josh Weddle

THE RANCE-LIKE DEFENDER IN SIGHTS OF PIES, HAWKS, BOMBERS​

A defender who has drawn comparisons to former Richmond star Alex Rance

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has “come with a bullet” in the second half of the year to firm as a top draft prospect.

Recruiters believe Oakleigh Chargers backman Josh Weddle has “enormous upside”, which has seen him attract significant interest ahead of this month’s national draft.

Weddle had looked a mid-to-late draft pick early in the year but is now expected to be snapped up somewhere between picks 15 and 30 on the back of his rapid improvement.

He measures 192cm but can play taller given he has a great athletic profile and is ultra competitive.

“He’s athletically very strong. He’s explosive. He can play on talls, he can play on smalls,” Oakleigh talent manager Jy Bond said.

“AFL clubs are pretty excited about him and his ability to play both ends – mid, back, forward. He’s come on really well.”

Weddle ranked second in the running vertical jump at the national draft combine and also posted impressive results in the 20m sprint and 2km time trial tests.

He is believed to have attracted interest from clubs including Collingwood, Hawthorn and Essendon – who all hold picks in the 20s.

Clubs including Collingwood, Hawthorn and Essendon have been linked to defender Josh Weddle.

 

[Lads2023]

Will

I hope you’re not getting my hopes up like Heppelfreak lol

 

[Lads2023]

One of the most attractive things for me about Phillipou is his mentality, he has an arrogance/confidence we need.

I believe his also one of the younger guys in his draft class - doesn’t turn 18 until end of December. Imagine when this kid fills out……

 

[Duckworth]

EFC supporters have something to be cheering for, for most of the draft.
1-5: is interesting, because we see who will be available at our 1st selection.
6-23: Will be cheering for Davey to slip past.
24-40: will be cheering for Munkara to not be selected.

 

[Westlo]

It’s not parish or Shiel he’ll play 80% of his career with, it’s Caldwell and Hobbs.

Selwood was surrounded by complimentary pieces. We don’t have those pieces.

And yet people act like if we draft Tsatas it's going to a clownshow with him, Parish and Shiel. Parish is probably gone after one year via free agency and Shiel is already on the wrong side of 30... Tsatas will be playing with Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Davey etc for 80-90% of his career.

 

[Ati Tude]

And a possible Rnd 2, Selection with the pending Alwyn Davey jnr bid.

Josh Weddle

THE RANCE-LIKE DEFENDER IN SIGHTS OF PIES, HAWKS, BOMBERS​

A defender who has drawn comparisons to former Richmond star Alex Rance has “come with a bullet” in the second half of the year to firm as a top draft prospect.

Recruiters believe Oakleigh Chargers backman Josh Weddle has “enormous upside”, which has seen him attract significant interest ahead of this month’s national draft.

Weddle had looked a mid-to-late draft pick early in the year but is now expected to be snapped up somewhere between picks 15 and 30 on the back of his rapid improvement.

He measures 192cm but can play taller given he has a great athletic profile and is ultra competitive.

“He’s athletically very strong. He’s explosive. He can play on talls, he can play on smalls,” Oakleigh talent manager Jy Bond said.

“AFL clubs are pretty excited about him and his ability to play both ends – mid, back, forward. He’s come on really well.”

Weddle ranked second in the running vertical jump at the national draft combine and also posted impressive results in the 20m sprint and 2km time trial tests.

He is believed to have attracted interest from clubs including Collingwood, Hawthorn and Essendon – who all hold picks in the 20s.

Clubs including Collingwood, Hawthorn and Essendon have been linked to defender Josh Weddle.

I really don't want another undersized defender. Succession planning for Laverde's decline.

 

[ghostdog]

And yet people act like if we draft Tsatas it's going to a clownshow with him, Parish and Shiel. Parish is probably gone after one year via free agency and Shiel is already on the wrong side of 30... Tsatas will be playing with Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Davey etc for 80-90% of his career.

On what basis is Parish "probably gone"?

 

[FlyingV]

And yet people act like if we draft Tsatas it's going to a clownshow with him, Parish and Shiel. Parish is probably gone after one year via free agency and Shiel is already on the wrong side of 30... Tsatas will be playing with Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Davey etc for 80-90% of his career.

I actually think we are in quite an advantageous position. We have locked up our next gen inside grunt players in Hobbs and Caldwell and can now focus on bringing in that point of difference talent we have been lacking. Which, fortunately at our pick Tsatas, Humphrey and Phillipou all provide. I only wish we could pick two of them as that would create a real ground swell of talent coming through when combined with Cox, Reid, Perkins, Martin

 

[Duster]

I saw Tsatas at Richmond KMart a couple of weeks back. Someone dropped their receipt in front of him and he swooped up, picked it off the ground cleanly and gave it back to him just before the guy had to show it to the security guard. Clean skills. Impeccable timing. Not enough mongrel.

 

[eth-dog]

And yet people act like if we draft Tsatas it's going to a clownshow with him, Parish and Shiel. Parish is probably gone after one year via free agency and Shiel is already on the wrong side of 30... Tsatas will be playing with Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Davey etc for 80-90% of his career.

Shiel is 29.

On what basis is Parish "probably gone"?

Hope springs eternal

 

[faible]

Shiel is 29.

Which is the wrong side of 30 at Geelong, right?

 

[Booplaz]

I'd say it's more being time to start the next project.

Bryan is 5th year in 2024. He's gotta be good enough to hold down the number 2 spot as a fifth year.

Given how long it has taken Draper and Bryan to come on a guy drafted in 2023 can't really be expected to be ready before 2027/2028.

It would be strange to invest more draft capital in another tall. I suppose if they think he's one out of the box who could also be a potential key forward it makes some sense.

It's not what I would be doing. I'd use a cat B rookie spot on a 7' athlete.

Main difference between our current guys and Barnett is that he’s an excellent overhead mark. This opens his scope from just a ruck to holding down a key position at either end.

 

[BrunoV]

Main difference between our current guys and Barnett is that he’s an excellent overhead mark. This opens his scope from just a ruck to holding down a key position at either end.

It does but I am really struggling to understand the management of our talls since the end of 2020.

We've invested far too much draft capital and too many list spots only to end up with BZT, (a perennially injured) Stewart and (an average) Weidemann having jettisoned 2xNGA talls, who were showing encouraging signs, to now be looking at another high pick on a tall?

All of this with our mids?

There is a word that is in my mind when I think about the consequences of this for anyone responsible. It starts with 'sack' and ends with 'able'.

The Mahoney era is not proving itself to be above the Dodoro-led rubbish.

 

[Vindicater]

It does but I am really struggling to understand the management of our talls since the end of 2020.

We've invested far too much draft capital and too many list spots only to end up with BZT, (a perennially injured) Stewart and (an average) Weidemann having jettisoned 2xNGA talls, who were showing encouraging signs, to now be looking at another high pick on a tall?

All of this with our mids?

There is a word that is in my mind when I think about the consequences of this for anyone responsible. It starts with 'sack' and ends with 'able'.

The Mahoney era is not proving itself to be above the Dodoro-led rubbish.

Reid and Cox just don't exist?

 

[BrunoV]

Reid and Cox just don't exist?

That's incorporated in my point unless you think pick 39 and 58, or whatever it was, is 'too much draft capital'.

Reid has done jack shit at the same level as Brand and Eyre. He's done less than that at AFL level. It tells me the delistings are not about development. That's a complete failure of management.

Why take 2 talls in the top 10 when you've got 2 locked away later in the draft?

Why then sign a guy whose limit is c grade journeyman to a 2 year contract in 2021? Then we have a 2 year deal for a 27/28 yo who cant get on the park and bring in an underpeforming 25 year old in 2022.

This isn't planning. It's getting boxed in to dumb decisions by the whims in the same cycle of what is supposed to be a rebuild.

These people are idiots.

 

[faible]

That's incorporated in my point unless you think pick 39 and 58, or whatever it was, is 'too much draft capital'.

Reid has done jack s**t at the same level as Brand and Eyre. He's done less than that at AFL level. It tells me the delistings are not about development. That's a complete failure of management.

Why take 2 talls in the top 10 when you've got 2 locked away later in the draft?

Why then sign a guy whose limit is c grade journeyman to a 2 year contract in 2021? Then we have a 2 year deal for a 27/28 yo who cant get on the park and bring in an underpeforming 25 year old in 2022.

This isn't planning. It's getting boxed in to dumb decisions by the whims in the same cycle of what is supposed to be a rebuild.

These people are idiots.

Yawn.

Reid is tracking fine, he's had some stress injuries in his back and lacked continuity and is a super tall KPD who usually take a number of years.

I know Eyre is the kind of player you'll fixate on because 'athletic profile' but Reid is clearly going fine and just needs continuity as he grows in to his body.

Cox spent half the season off with an LTI and was played out of position in the seniors in a struggling side, not sure how you draw much, if any, conclusions from how he's going.

Seems a lot like you've got a predetermined position you want to argue, and are just shoehorning players in to it despite them not actually fitting the argument you want to make.

 

[FlyingV]

That's incorporated in my point unless you think pick 39 and 58, or whatever it was, is 'too much draft capital'.

Reid has done jack s**t at the same level as Brand and Eyre. He's done less than that at AFL level. It tells me the delistings are not about development. That's a complete failure of management.

Why take 2 talls in the top 10 when you've got 2 locked away later in the draft?

Why then sign a guy whose limit is c grade journeyman to a 2 year contract in 2021? Then we have a 2 year deal for a 27/28 yo who cant get on the park and bring in an underpeforming 25 year old in 2022.

This isn't planning. It's getting boxed in to dumb decisions by the whims in the same cycle of what is supposed to be a rebuild.

These people are idiots.

You know, when the report findings came out and mentioned there was no alignment regarding list management decisions between recruitment, development and coaching I reckon they were talking about this very scenario.
Totally perplexing list management. We took 4 FB/CHBs in the same draft ffs.