Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2024 - Check out our haul

[Nuggs Bunny]

All over for this year!

Check out our new picks from the draft:
Pick #13 (matched): Isaac Kako - Small Forward, Calder Cannons
Pick #37: Kayle Gerreyn - Ruck/Forward, West Perth
Pick #39: Angus Clarke - Defender, Glenelg
Pick #61: Rhys Unwin - Small Forward, Greater Western Victoria
Pick #70: Zak Johnson - Midfielder, Northern Knights
Pick #6 RD: Archer Day-Lewis - Forward, Bendigo Pioneers
Cat B Rookie: Jayden Nguyen - Defender, Calder Cannons

 

[ant555]

The North pick trade seems to be poor on the surface but they are in a situation where they have a lot of top end picks in the last 4 years plus another this year.
They would believe that they will be moving up the ladder (rightly or wrongly) and Richmond F2 will more than likely be the first pick in round 2.
So they went after a guy they rate this year.
They are not in a situation where they absolutely need another top 10 pick next year.

 

[ant555]

Would be interested to hear what the strategy was from those who are saying it was a mistake to trade out 9.
Who would you have picked ?
Why do you feel that player would be so much better than next year or even the two second round picks this year.

 

[Mercurial89]

Where was Whitlock rated prior to the draft on here?
Was mocked around 20-23 from what I gather.

I'm not sure you can hold the thought that this is some kind of super draft (which judging by the posting begging us to get back in I'd say most do) and then laugh at north for trading back in.

They have had top picks for years, they had pick 2, if they rated Whitlock and this is a strong draft he may be the equivalent of a top 12 pick next year. They get him into their system now.
The team they traded with will be disgustingly shit, so it's the top pick of the second round coming back, they aren't losing a player here.

North also ain't finishing bottom 5 next year. More likely the pick is around the 8-10 mark.
I don't think the trade is that bad, it's just people automatically assuming it's a top 3-5 pick they have traded away that is colouring the comments.

 

[FootyGuru]

This will look like a masterstroke to plenty of supporters if we can get Jobe shanahan with one of these 30s picks or trade up for him with a couple of later picks.

I’mhappy we got kako secured. He has got thighs like Gary Ablett Jnr and doesn’t get knocked off the ball. Is exactly the kind of player we need.

 

[boncer34]

Where was Whitlock rated prior to the draft on here?
Was mocked around 20-23 from what I gather.

I'm not sure you can hold the thought that this is some kind of super draft (which judging by the posting begging us to get back in I'd say most do) and then laugh at north for trading back in.

They have had top picks for years, they had pick 2, if they rated Whitlock and this is a strong draft he may be the equivalent of a top 12 pick next year. They get him into their system now.
The team they traded with will be disgustingly shit, so it's the top pick of the second round coming back, they aren't losing a player here.

North also ain't finishing bottom 5 next year. More likely the pick is around the 8-10 mark.
I don't think the trade is that bad, it's just people automatically assuming it's a top 3-5 pick they have traded away that is colouring the comments.

I got first beers at Holgate that says your wrong?

 

[Duckworth]

We do not know what happens if we keep 9. It does change the situation having us with a live pick rather than waiting for a bid. Out of interest who is it that we missed out on that makes it too safe ? I liked the safe option as now we get a first round and two second rounds plus two firsts next year.

There is still risk tied to Melbourne’s future pick. It could easily end up as a pick in the 20s.

 

[Yoda_]

So if bid comes at 10 likely wouldve and we had held 11 and not traded it, which wouldnt occur

Then wed get back pick 55

Have 31, 53 and 55

Pick 10 would have matched the Kako bid at 8 and we'd receive a points value of about 250. Because only one pick was used we don't get any picks back per Se.

Lets play hypotheticals again;

a bid comes at pick 13 with our initial draft hand. What does our end hand look like after the bid at 13? A back ended pick?

 

[Yoda_]

Would be interested to hear what the strategy was from those who are saying it was a mistake to trade out 9.
Who would you have picked ?
Why do you feel that player would be so much better than next year or even the two second round picks this year.

had a discussion on social media about the 2025. Apparently very academy heavy. Even if we have pick 10, it'll be the 10th available kid in 2025. People are dumb



I agree that the players available to us were likely not really what we need anyways so a win:win despite the simpletons thinking it was a poor decision to trade out

 

[Yoda_]

There is still risk tied to Melbourne’s future pick. It could easily end up as a pick in the 20s.

put this as a favourites tab my man and strap yourself in

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

North also ain't finishing bottom 5 next year. More likely the pick is around the 8-10 mark.

Not sure even North fans think they’ll finish that high after just a 3 win season

 

[Old Campaigner]

I get that this is all hindsight and maybe Rosa didn’t want to take the risk, but

Bid for kako came after our first pick

We traded that pick 10 for very likely less than what north traded for pick 27.

Would it not have been better to wait and see how it played out tonight before trading it.

Rosa played it safe, but a little too safe in my opinion.

The norf trade only went through because there was a guy they liked still on the board. If you think about it for the tiniest second you’d realise we wouldn’t be able to get the trade done until after our pick and/or a bid on kako so comparing our trades to that one is pointless

 

[Rick Ross]

Don’t buy into the theorising that we could have used our 9 - someone could have forced our hand.

But hind sight on the value we got for 9 is valid. What norf paid for 27 shows that we could have gotten (much) more on the night. Would have taken a stronger constitution but it would have been a better outcome.

 

[Duckworth]

put this as a favourites tab my man and strap yourself in

Yeah, I was saying before draft night I wouldn't have done the Melbourne trade. But while Melbourne's Future First could blow out to pick 27 next year, I wouldn't be calling it the 'safe' option.

 

[fairbump_playon]

If we held the pick on draft night there would have been incentive for someone to bid on Kako early to make us trade the pick. St Kilda almost certainly would have done it. Trading it was the right call as we more than likely got a better deal than if we had to make a trade in 3 minutes with some players already off the board.

I get this in theory except not sure on the “very likely less” bit

A lot of clubs would have coveted a top ten pick

 

[fairbump_playon]

Can't say it would've if we didn't trade out.



Pick 11* and how is it less, at the very worst case it's 18, at best case it's top 5.



Yes but then most clubs would've perceived us as desperate at that point and we would've had to abide by whatever others offered.

The reality would have been multiple suitors wanting that pick in all likelihood and competing with each other to make the deal with us

Desperate would be having to trade it to not waste it on Kako - but having only one club want it

 

[fairbump_playon]

Would be interested to hear what the strategy was from those who are saying it was a mistake to trade out 9.
Who would you have picked ?
Why do you feel that player would be so much better than next year or even the two second round picks this year.

I am not too phased by them trading it out. There was no “burning need” player for EFC around that 9 mark this year

I think the value we got was better than what we had pre trade

I do think we could have got even better value than the Melbourne deal on the night

But I liken it to laying up rather than going for the green

Hard to say it’s really a problem to make a birdie instead of the eagle you in theory could have made (knowing you also could have put the ball in the lake)

 

[Runk]

The North pick trade seems to be poor on the surface but they are in a situation where they have a lot of top end picks in the last 4 years plus another this year.
They would believe that they will be moving up the ladder (rightly or wrongly) and Richmond F2 will more than likely be the first pick in round 2.
So they went after a guy they rate this year.
They are not in a situation where they absolutely need another top 10 pick next year.

Yeah I agree. To me it made sense to address their needs now and fair play to them, it's their pick, use it how you want.
That said if it fails then it's funny as hell and I'm ok with that.

 

[Mercurial89]

I got first beers at Holgate that says your wrong?

Happy with that.

 

[Mercurial89]

Not sure even North fans think they’ll finish that high after just a 3 win season

Maybe I'm wrong, I just have a feeling they ain't finishing bottom 5.

 

[boncer34]

Happy with that.

Doss now we have to go back

 

[faible]

Teams have always given up buckets to trade into players they want

Liam Stocker
Jeremy Sharp

Pretty good reason not to do it if these two are the examples.

 

[Runk]

Maybe I'm wrong, I just have a feeling they ain't finishing bottom 5.

You are not wrong

 

[jdstorm]

Not sure even North fans think they’ll finish that high after just a 3 win season

Teams improve fast when they start to jump. See hawthorn last year. North looked pretty good the back half of last year and that’s without much from Dursma and No FOS who you assume will have a big impact either off HB or at HF

Combine that with an easy draw and ya never know. There’s a bunch of teams that expect to be better next year. But none of the top teams look markedly worse. So strength of schedule should play a big role next season

Edit: They have a brutal start to the year but with double ups agains Richmond, WC and Adelaide you’d hope they can get to 5 wins in those 6 games find 3 more against Dogs/Deesx2/Pies/Us/Saints Whoever and that’s 8

 

[Pweter]

I don't get the negative view of what we've done, even looking at it with the benefit of hindsight.

We got the best player in the draft for a positional need where we're absolutely desperate to upgrade. We could've done nothing at all this year and just drafted Kako at 9. Instead we get a F1 as well.

The trades to net us 3x 2nd round picks to use tonight are gravy and there could yet be more trades in the tank to help us get one of the sliders which still includes Shanahan.

 

[faible]

Lore or other, what was our original draft hand pre-trades?

I know we had a 1st, but what else did we have?