AFL Dream Team 2008

[Souup]

The only rookies that should be starting are ones who are almost gaurenteed to get 22 games.. there arnt many

Palmer... ok thats about it

 

[Butane]

Little off topic but last poster - fabregas is a legend.

Back to the topic at hand, what do you guys think about starting a defender like proud, taylor, s.selwood, thompson etc (or I'd appreciate you naming me one ) over starting someone like nicoski who may only average 60 or so, then using that (roughly) 120,000 to upgrade another player, like for example in my side upgrading pearce to cross/kerr and upgrading steve johnson to chapman.

Quite a bad explaination but if you can work it out i'd love the advice. Thanks.

Personal taste really. The last thing you want is having a rookie starting and he doesn't get a game. Sure you can fall back on EMG's but if they are rookies as well(which they would be) they are just as likely to miss selection as well.

Just do what you feel comfortable with - then you can'twon't hate yourself as much when if it fails

 

[demondude]

what are peoples thoughts on lenny hayes..really worth the cash or is there a better option at his price??

 

[happy_eagle]

The only rookies that should be starting are ones who are almost gaurenteed to get 22 games.. there arnt many

Palmer... ok thats about it

not always the case, unless you plan on keeping him in your team all year. what you need is an alwyn davey, who will get you a price rise over 200+, and sitll only play 8 games.

 

[shiva25]

what are peoples thoughts on lenny hayes..really worth the cash or is there a better option at his price??

This is about 500th time this question has been asked? FFS do some research

 

[Wazdog]

Just traded him out.
No talk about him anywhere.

Aveaged ok in pre season.

Athomas: check out the last few pages here - plenty of talk about Newman - you'll have to pick trade him back in!

 

[demondude]

This is about 500th time this question has been asked? FFS do some research

what do you think?? thought he was pretty good for his price

 

[happy_eagle]

I am going to talk a bit about the rucks position now

My current rucks are mcintosh, and simmonds, but i am not sure of this.

The aim of each DT coach, in the ruck division, is to end up with the two highest scoring ruckman in the competition. seing as i do not have cox, i would need to trade him in at some point.

but i was thinking, with the second highest ruckman, they usually finish with an average of 85-90 for the season. Troy simmonds may be able to average around 80, being the only decent ruck at richmond. seeing as he may average 80, it could be easier to keep him in the side all year, and he can act as that second ruckman.

Then its all about getting Cox. originally my plan was to upgrade simmonds or mcintosh, but seing as simmonds may tend to average well (90 in 2006), then i was considering down grading mcintosh to someone like wood, who is guaranteed 22 games in a season. I would have been upgrading to cox later on any way, and starting wood, would save me half of Macintosh's prices (170,000).

my theory is that it would be easier to start wood, as if i was confident enough in simmonds, i would have just traded mcintosh to cox anyway, and i think that wood, may be able to work to a decent price, where the upgrade is possible.

If i had macintosh and simmonds, you would find that i would probably get cox easier, and quicker, but at the end would only be trading for an extra 15-20 points. If i saved up wood enough, then it would cost more to upgrade him to cox, but it gives me alot more cash (170,00 to be precise)

Hopefully i successfully got what i was trying to get at there

 

[Kai88]

The only rookies that should be starting are ones who are almost gaurenteed to get 22 games.. there arnt many

Palmer... ok thats about it

Not necessarily true.
If you have a rookie starting who averages 60 the first 8-10 games he will significantly rise in price, allowing him to be upgraded to a premium player by downgrading an existing bench rookie to a new bench rookie and using the cash.

 

[Kai88]

I am going to talk a bit about the rucks position now

My current rucks are mcintosh, and simmonds, but i am not sure of this.

The aim of each DT coach, in the ruck division, is to end up with the two highest scoring ruckman in the competition. seing as i do not have cox, i would need to trade him in at some point.

but i was thinking, with the second highest ruckman, they usually finish with an average of 85-90 for the season. Troy simmonds may be able to average around 80, being the only decent ruck at richmond. seeing as he may average 80, it could be easier to keep him in the side all year, and he can act as that second ruckman.

Then its all about getting Cox. originally my plan was to upgrade simmonds or mcintosh, but seing as simmonds may tend to average well (90 in 2006), then i was considering down grading mcintosh to someone like wood, who is guaranteed 22 games in a season. I would have been upgrading to cox later on any way, and starting wood, would save me half of Macintosh's prices (170,000).

my theory is that it would be easier to start wood, as if i was confident enough in simmonds, i would have just traded mcintosh to cox anyway, and i think that wood, may be able to work to a decent price, where the upgrade is possible.

If i had macintosh and simmonds, you would find that i would probably get cox easier, and quicker, but at the end would only be trading for an extra 15-20 points. If i saved up wood enough, then it would cost more to upgrade him to cox, but it gives me alot more cash (170,00 to be precise)

Hopefully i successfully got what i was trying to get at there

Sounds like a good theory, but it all comes down to Simmonds. Most players will choose Cox/Simmonds and then plan to upgrade Simmonds to the second best ruckman later in the season. If you have the faith in Simmonds, go for it and Wood can be upgraded to Cox with the money from your cash cows. If Simmonds dissapoints, you're struggling to get your rucks competitive.

 

[kirbatron]

Some questions i'd like to bring up for discussion.

Will Bowden's cheap kick role be limited in 08 due to Mcmahon sweeping and Newman now fully fit?

Starting Armitage (6th string mid) will he play?

Carazzo/Hayes & Cooney/Stanton - best combo?

Is Lade cherry ripe and ready to rock?

 

[Kentacula]

Is Lynchy worth taking a punt on?

 

[flackjack]

Some questions i'd like to bring up for discussion.

Will Bowden's cheap kick role be limited in 08 due to Mcmahon sweeping and Newman now fully fit?

Starting Armitage (6th string mid) will he play?

Carazzo/Hayes & Cooney/Stanton - best combo?

Is Lade cherry ripe and ready to rock?

I can't answer the first question, but I can provide another question. Who will benefit most from McMahon leaving the bulldogs.

I would take Hayes and Stanton and save the money. Carazzo's points this year may be impacted by the return of Stevens and Judd.

If I remember correctly, Lade had no real injury problems last year, and was just simply a dip in form. Whether he returns to average 90's is another question which may depend on the availability of Brogan as well I'd say.

 

[Wazdog]

I am going to talk a bit about the rucks position now

My current rucks are mcintosh, and simmonds, but i am not sure of this.

The aim of each DT coach, in the ruck division, is to end up with the two highest scoring ruckman in the competition. seing as i do not have cox, i would need to trade him in at some point.

but i was thinking, with the second highest ruckman, they usually finish with an average of 85-90 for the season. Troy simmonds may be able to average around 80, being the only decent ruck at richmond. seeing as he may average 80, it could be easier to keep him in the side all year, and he can act as that second ruckman.

Then its all about getting Cox. originally my plan was to upgrade simmonds or mcintosh, but seing as simmonds may tend to average well (90 in 2006), then i was considering down grading mcintosh to someone like wood, who is guaranteed 22 games in a season. I would have been upgrading to cox later on any way, and starting wood, would save me half of Macintosh's prices (170,000).

my theory is that it would be easier to start wood, as if i was confident enough in simmonds, i would have just traded mcintosh to cox anyway, and i think that wood, may be able to work to a decent price, where the upgrade is possible.

If i had macintosh and simmonds, you would find that i would probably get cox easier, and quicker, but at the end would only be trading for an extra 15-20 points. If i saved up wood enough, then it would cost more to upgrade him to cox, but it gives me alot more cash (170,00 to be precise)

Hopefully i successfully got what i was trying to get at there

If you want the best two rucks and you think they will be Cox and McIntosh, I reckon take them at the start.

If you need to trade into them, then what you're doing is saying the value of budgeting 10% of my trades (two trades to upgrade one player?) is the dollars you're saving pre-Round 1 by picking up a cheaper player, less how many more points you can get out of that cash in the weeks before the ruck trade.

 

[kirbatron]

Michael Johnson or MotherBocker?

 

[happy_eagle]

If you want the best two rucks and you think they will be Cox and McIntosh, I reckon take them at the start.

If you need to trade into them, then what you're doing is saying the value of budgeting 10% of my trades (two trades to upgrade one player?) is the dollars you're saving pre-Round 1 by picking up a cheaper player, less how many more points you can get out of that cash in the weeks before the ruck trade.

yeh, i see your point

but it all depends on what i think troy simmonds does

If he can emulate the second highest ruckman, and get 80 odd, it may pay off, as i would end up with cox, and simmonds, and had saved 170,000 doing it so.

 

[Kentacula]

Cloke or Kosi?

 

[Wazdog]

yeh, i see your point

but it all depends on what i think troy simmonds does

If he can emulate the second highest ruckman, and get 80 odd, it may pay off, as i would end up with cox, and simmonds, and had saved 170,000 doing it so.

I think Cox and mcIntosh will be the best two ruckman at the end of the year, but I don't think it will be my goal to have them at the end.

I'm planning around Simmonds improving enough to be a full year contributor.

 

[Mordecai]

Do I start Milburn and Wood
or
BJones and Simmonds.

I think Simmonds with his ageing body may struggle and like the 50k i get going down to get Wood (yeah I got wood... haha).

On a side note. Do people budget in the trades they will make in rounds 1 and 2 to get that gun everyone missed?

 

[nighthawk]

Which would you prefer?

Bowden, McIntosh and Monfries.

OR

Ellis, Cox, Kosi and 84k?

 

[Mordecai]

Which would you prefer?

Bowden, McIntosh and Monfries.

OR

Ellis, Cox, Kosi and 84k?

In terms of value,

Cox>Bowden
Ellis>Monfries

If you can make that 84k work then number 2 is better i think.

 

[Kai88]

Do I start Milburn and Wood
or
BJones and Simmonds.

I think Simmonds with his ageing body may struggle and like the 50k i get going down to get Wood (yeah I got wood... haha).

On a side note. Do people budget in the trades they will make in rounds 1 and 2 to get that gun everyone missed?

Certainly do... if my current rookies are struggling after round 2 and there is 2 that are doing well, i wont hesitate in using 2 trades to get the correct cash cows.

 

[sante]

So Chris Newman is all the talk now?

 

[Mordecai]

So Chris Newman is all the talk now?

He's back!

After seeing your mob's first game on tv, I gave him half a chance of making it into my side. Looks set for a similar year to last.

I'd like to know if there is any solid evidence that Brett Jones will play more of a sweeper role at WC.

 

[sante]

He's back!

After seeing your mob's first game on tv. I gave him half a chance of making it into my side. Looks set for a similar year.

I'd like to know if there is any solid evidence Brett Jones will play more of a sweeper role at WC.

I wanted to have Newman but will probably go against it although he is very consistent.

B. Jones is very interesting especially if Waters is injured.